New quests - How much EP?

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  1. -Pacman2-

    -Pacman2- User

    At least Rank Points would me more of a grammatically correct reward.

    Experience Points and Honour points these days have nothing to do with Experience or Honour.
    If there was a WW rank then I would agree with you, that a player should be able to buy WW rank points.
    A WW or cheat that has an UFE ship, will already be gaining massively by the amount of damage and gates they do and therefore the amount of rank points they can earn, without doubling that or more from bought unearned points.

    However like damage the ability to buy massive amounts of EP and honour, is ultimately contributing to the devastating decline in player numbers.


    Rank points are not cosmetic in any stretch of the imagination for many players they are a significant part of the game.
    They were once a reflection of how well one was doing in the game. Now they are more a reflection of the fact in the most part, that one has either cheated and got away with it, or bought it with real money.

    This game does not have an end game. Scratch that, the end will be when there is not enough players left.

    These quest do not help new players unless they are WW new players. As new players that are spending all there time doing these quest, are not spending time earning uri and collecting gate spins.
    I guess in my cynical view this is a main driver for the massive EP and minimal Uri.
    Profit at any cost to the quality of the game. The same driver that has created the sad reflection of the once great game we have now.

    What new player need is cheaper equipment and quest that give them equipment.

    What the game need to stop the rot of ever dwindling player numbers is to reduce the cost of all ship improving items over time and far better yield for related chance items.
     
  2. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    I clearly said in my post that the ideal free to play model, players only pay cosmetics and boosters which rank your character up faster.
    I did not say EP or RP was a cosmetic, so please do not try and twist my words so I did.

    On that note you could argue that a players rank is purely costmetic. It does not give them any bonus to equipment whatsoever and does not indicate how good they are at PvP.
    It is very rare for the General of company to be the best fighter in the company.

    Maybe it's just me but I do not have a problem with people paying to make EP quicker in the form of boosters.
    Of all the things we can be complaining about, making EP shouldn't be on there, it should be getting new players UFE as quick as possible.

    Let the WW make as much EP as they like, it's not hurting anyone in terms of getting equipment to have an equal fight on this game.
     
  3. LOL..DO did not do this out of the kindness of their hearts for the new players. A little birdy informed me that it's all about the P.E.T. It's to get players to lvl up their pets faster so that you spend more uridium. As you can see, the rewards for these quests are dismal compared to what they use to be. Kill 20 goliaths, get 120 uri, etc. As we all know, your level really has no advantage. Which would explain why I've been killing so many players who are 2 and 3 levels above me and I don't even put money into this game.
     
  4. -Pacman2-

    -Pacman2- User

    Actually you did not say anything :p:D However you did post " and boosters which rank your character up faster." which I missed when reading your post. So please disregard anything I posted relating to me misreading that part of your post.

    Unfortunately when I critic this game I consider how it was back in 2007/2008/2009 (When the game had a cult following, about 5-10 times as many wk on wk players and was about skill.) back then a WW would gain an edge from standard and Pro boosters. Noting that a free player could occasionally have trade boosters, WW could have both boosters all the time.

    Trust me DO/BP know the facts, All ranks are very important to the WW.;) and if you don't know it already tell me it does not in any way affect how you play.:rolleyes:

    Back then in the most part EP and Honour meant exactly that. To the point there was a change to Honour, to punish players for steeling cargo and killing own company players.

    I absolutely do not have a problem with people paying for a reasonable advantage in the game including EP Honour or Badge Rank.
    I wish I could search the old forum right now, because a major DO employee posted before resigning, something like:- there is no problem with buying an advantage, but when it kill the game the mix is wrong. ( Note this is not a quote, but is close enough)

    I guess you are missing the bigger picture.;):rolleyes: Why do you think that the EP reward are enough to make the next EP level each level up to level 19, then level 20 is about 1/4 of the required EP. and a lvl 20 player at best can make level 22.
    EP is a close second to Badge rank. In fact it is a major requirement when you start out so is far more important that Badge rank for most.
    I was 2 star for a long time before I noticed; and I only notice and realised how other perceived it, a long time after I earned it from skill and effort.

    My Cynical Views:-
    This update is just Fishing for the next WW. 1% (uneducated guess ) of new players.
    It seem they would rather have 1 Uber WW than 100 average spenders.

    In the most part the WWs are lvl 21 and above. Apart from the the new WW.

    Most WW want to be perceived as being good, regardless of if they are.
    It is so funny how sad this is, people in the most part earn respect, ;) if they try to buy it, or take it, most sound people just :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: rather than have any respect.

    But we live in an age where data analysis for popular reaction is abundant, and in my view, shallow insecure people, will cheat or spent to feel superior, I guess DO /BP sees this also.

    DO is so lucky with data analysis (assuming they have an average or better team to get the best out of the data.) because they get fairly instant feed back from there decisions.

    Also they have so much other data that suggest people will pay to farm ( repetitive grinding ) with a little reward, is enough to keep one entertained.:eek: especial if one is helped to feel more superior.:rolleyes: how sad.:(

    My final cynical view is:_ DO/BP could not cope with the cult following that gave them massive player numbers, when the massive player number were exploited, the game became the farming game it is now;
    compared to the skilled space war game it once was.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2014
  5. It use to be so easy to find out how much experience point do you need to level up.. now I can't find any of those info.. use to call a DO bible.. where is it?
     
  6. whoeva

    whoeva User

  7. VRU-GODDESS if you go to forum - help - newbies. its got a chart on there.