Which is more effective in gates moth or bat?

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  1. SS_HELIOS

    SS_HELIOS User

    My question is which is more effective moth or either of the formations that adds damage to npcs. Im not worried about the negative effects from using any of the formations.
     
    SS_HELIOS, Mar 11, 2014
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  2. APOLLO[SKE★]

    APOLLO[SKE★] User

    moth distributes more damage to hp it doesnt add a damage boost, BAT is best agaisnt npcs because it gives 8% more damage and 8% more ep
     
    APOLLO[SKE★], Mar 11, 2014
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  3. SS_HELIOS

    SS_HELIOS User

    I know what they do. I want to know which one is going to speed my gates up more. Moth saves a lot of time but I want to know if Bat or barrage will speed it up more.
     
    SS_HELIOS, Mar 11, 2014
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  4. ···B·Ī·Θ·П·Ī·Ç···™

    ···B·Ī·Θ·П·Ī·Ç···™ User

    MOTH + Full Guns + Full Speed on 1 config
    Use 1/2 Shields & Guns + Full Speed on 2nd config

    Most people who know how to keep their distance when necessary blaze through gates with this setup. Moth does additional damage to NPC's HP in gates, therefore you cut through more npc's using less ammo & time...
     
    ···B·Ī·Θ·П·Ī·Ç···™, Mar 11, 2014
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  5. SS_HELIOS

    SS_HELIOS User

    I have a really easy time with gates but Im not a patient person so thanks a lot.
     
    SS_HELIOS, Mar 11, 2014
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  6. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    I do gates quicker with bat than with moth, with one exception - Zeta.

    The only reason my zeta time was better with moth is because zeta aliens have a weird shield / HP distributions where the HP goes down quicker than the shields anyway, so moth just helps it along.
     
    Okapi32, Mar 12, 2014
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  7. SS_HELIOS

    SS_HELIOS User

    Zeta is my favorite gate, but I almost have 10 havocs so thats good to know. Thanks.
     
    SS_HELIOS, Mar 12, 2014
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  8. -vendius-

    -vendius- User

    Done zeta fifty times all with moth formation with one speed config all lasers, no need for a second config lol...as for the other gates moth all the way assisted with kami3, gates fly by! ;)
     
    -vendius-, Mar 12, 2014
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  9. SS_HELIOS

    SS_HELIOS User

    my current setup in zeta is one with moth and all shields on ship because the npcs and your ship with prom are very close to the same speed without any speed gens. I also like to do the last wave without moth so I have shields.
     
    SS_HELIOS, Mar 12, 2014
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  10. EVERCLEAR

    EVERCLEAR User

    Moth for fastest time
     
    EVERCLEAR, Mar 12, 2014
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  11. -Pacman2-

    -Pacman2- User

    It really depends on what you want to achieve, which gate npc you are using the formations on and weather you let the npcs go to the corner, or pop each one before it finishes its run to the corner.

    As you know what each does.
    I would suggest in the most part that the bat will be the better choice not least of all because it returns more EP, but on certain waves on certain gates the moth will give the better advantage.
     
    -Pacman2-, Mar 14, 2014
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