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How to get more UFE in the game?

  1. Equipment easier to obtain

    49.3%
  2. Uridium prices are cheaper

    39.7%
  3. Other (Please post why)

    11.0%
  1. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Reading the forums over the last few months I have seen a general trend, people wanting to improve DarkOrbit and giving their opinions on how the devs should go about doing it.
    There are two popular opinions that seem to go around that aim to getting more UFE on the maps, if you believe in one you tend to disagree with the other.


    The first opinion is making equipment easier to get.
    The second is cheaper uridium.


    The main arguments seem to be "equipment was hard for us, so it should be hard for them" and "cheaper uridium leads to an even bigger free player - paying player gap".

    Thought I would make a poll to see, in numbers, which was the most popular opinion. Obviously these are general observations, I'm afraid I didn't spend the last few months conducting an academic study into it ^^
     
  2. I chose ,other because we all did it the hard way so y should other get it easy. the new action was a nice update but.... some people thing getting items is to hard because they just wanna get to hunting and get sick of doing the same npcs day in day out some events are useless boxs have changed so bad new quest went for lvl more then credits or uri all that should have changed was get rid of the botter end of
     
  3. -xghost-

    -xghost- User

    I would delete all uri/booty keys/logdisc, etc. buying and leave the premium as the only way to enhance the game via real money and proclaim, this will never change (as it is standard in many other games). Yes, acquiring stuff would be hard. And it would be the same hard for everyone. If someone wants to improve the game via money, it should be only the small tickle, not the game-ruining mechanism. Realize this: the player who pays out his first steps in game ruins the game for him/herself above all.

    Maybe, much more players would pay. But this will never happens and now it would make some problems, because many allready payed a lot and there is always someone, who needs to have bigger "limb", than all others.
     
  4. By increasing rewards in NPC. Simple. Double rewards in NPC and then you'll be fine.
     
  5. -xghost-

    -xghost- User

    Agree. Anything that pushes significance playing/paying to pLayng is welcome for me.
     
  6. ship5678

    ship5678 User

    I choose the equipment should be cheaper especially the prices for Lf3's and Bo2's. Also some equipment isn't worth the price
     
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  7. Take chance out of the game. Make LF-4 for uri for people that spend. Quest for people that dont.I picked other because i seem to have hit the wall with lF-4.If
    you could pay a reasonable price for LF-4 a new player could reach UFE in 5 To 8
    months.Existing Fe players could get there in 2 to 4 months.As it stands now it takes
    to long to be able to compete.They just end up quitting.
     
  8. Oracle

    Oracle User

    You cant see what is stated.If items are easier to get , you will actually have someone to compete cause more palyers will be playing.Well if you have sucha big ego, let the chances as low as they are now and run alone in your ufe spaceship popping other egos(2-3 that will remain) and pop kristallons.is that what you want to achieve??

    Well Owning , a lot of these ideas are stated in my previous thread in updae and idea pool, afew ideas to improve the game.I actually agree with you, because this game needs updates like these to survive.Keep on posting your ideas mate they awesome.And everyone out there these ideas are stated by an UFE not an NOOB

    Oracle

    Gb1
     
  9. whoeva

    whoeva User

    I've voted for other because I think both options would help the game. I think equipment should be easier to get but not so that the game is throwing lf4s at you, you should still have to work for them.

    About the comment that we all had to do it the hard way well I have to disagree since for a large number of ufe it was as hard as leaving their pc on while they slept not to mention the accounts that have been bought or shared.

    That's why I think equipment should be easier to obtain; to help to close the massive gap between fe and ufe, especially regarding the way many of those obtained that equipment in the first place.

    The amount of uridium required for upgrading items is ridiculous compared to the boost you get so lowering the cost would make these make more sense. The cost of uri could be lower as I really believe that more people paying smaller amounts would add up to more than fewer people paying larger amounts.

    For the free or low-spend player it's the realisation of how long or how much money it is going to take to grind your way to ufe that causes so many players to quit, especially when they can't really go anywhere without getting popped and for a player with no uri, prem or 2nd hangar it's a long fly to get back to 5-3 just to get sent back to base again.

    I would love to see this game turn around and have some new players working on their ships and flying round the maps. It does seem to be happening but without making some changes to address the issues that have been pointed out many times I'm not sure if enough will stick around.
     
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  10. pecanin

    pecanin User

    Chose Other

    1.Uridium prices are fine as it is

    What needs to change is amount of uridium player gets when buying and that will sort out "easier to obtain" part ....lets face it ..DO/BP can deny it all they like but odds on getting LF 4/Hers/Havoc have changed since they were released....in week of release i got 8 LF 4 in less than 400 keys without any double chance malarkey

    70 pounds gets you 1 000 000 uri (with no bonus from CC or Ukash) for that with no Prem or rebate you get 666 keys (funny number or what) ...with rebate + prem you get 952 keys .....you will be extremely lucky to get 1 LF 4 in 952 keys on certain servers on normal day ....double days not much better.

    2.Remove stupid Apis parts from boxes for those that already have Apis ...that is nothing but thievery ....DO themselves say that "You always get something from key"...that is not true in case of Apis ...you get cheated out of Uri every time you get one...replace it with ammo or whatever...same goes for Ship Designs ...who here likes getting Spectrum or Venom or Vengy Designs for 8th time ?.......Here is an idea for you DO Designers ...Replace Apis/Designs/LF2/LF3/Bo2(for those that have them already) with Galaxy Gate Life Tokens ...Player gets something you get less workload with Gate resets

    3.Simple script created by DO to scan all existing accounts and number of gates they did to get 10 Herc/Havoc ...then average it down ...then guarantee to players that if average was 10 Herc/Havoc in 40 gates that they will get it ...i know players that have done 70 + gates and still don't have 10 ...and there are 100's of cheaters with 10 out of 10.

    4.Account selling has to stop or all account that have been banned for whatever reason must be returned ...If DO is going to pick and choose which of their T&C they will enforce ...why should players follow T&C....i say this as in month since i last logged on 4 accounts in top 10 in GE1 were sold....

    5.If they wish to make this game PvP and not "beat the Noob" once again...limit number of times Adv Jump Vpu can be used per 24 hour period

    6. Their "Reloaded" thing is not working because they keep doing same things over and over and expect things to change .....What exactly would it cost DO/BP to give every single player Leonov and 10 Flaxes moment he starts game ...nothing...there might be one in 1000's player that buys Leo for Uri so why is it still Uri ship ?

    7. Dear DO test your GG Generator..none of % on it are true ...Test it and upload video on Youtube to prove us doubters wrong

    Sorry if some people don't like what i say

    I will guarantee it that i have spent more on keys than most of players tha have max LF 4 ....and i still don't have all....does that mean that i should get refund and be given max lf 4 ...because i tried it hard way ...?

    Same goes for gates and designs

    If you wish for game to be dead then resist change ...but on other hand you had your fun beating down on noobs who had no chance to defend ....

    Funny thing is that if every player was given same equipment many of so called top hunters in game today wouldn't be able to get kill or buy one ...proven on test servers time and time again.

    Soz for double post
     
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  11. ramnik

    ramnik User

    Yh just raise NPC rewards and i reckon it will be easier :p no need for price reductions or making it so equipment is easier to get, in that way people who are already ufe wont be so much annoyed if these changes were too happen :p
     
  12. uri price is fine. base NPC rewards on level of difficulty to kill.
     
  13. Make some glass cannon npcs that hit hard and give out good rewards, but have low hp.
     
  14. ~turnip~

    ~turnip~ User

    if you made npc's like that you would have everyone killing them .. they also have respawn rate like every other npc on game . so how are you going to make large amount of rewards when everyone is after them
     
  15. i played and payed for the things i have so Why dont you??
     
  16. Alky-jr

    Alky-jr User

    i would like so see npc uri rewards increase as uri prices for items in game have increased by about 100 times to get from fe to ufe yet there has been no uri increase in uri from npcs or a price reduction for buying uri. i dont do npcs anymore i would rather box and hunt but if uri reward was better for npcs i would do them for a while for a change
     
  17. Even the minimum wage earned has gone up in the past 7 years, yet NPC values have never changed.

    I think "chance" should be removed and NPC rewards enriched.

    I was once an avid "bonus box doubler package" subscriber but when they changed them I no longer purchased the package. Never will again.

    This game just keeps getting more and more expensive to "compete". Yes anyone can play for free, but to "compete" not so.

    I use to average 35-40 hours a week playing here, usually after my work day. I no longer play as before, heck this week I book a whopping 7 hours!

    Fix the game, make it "affordable" to compete.

    LF-4 should have been in shop long long ago. As soon as Dark Orbit realized that hundreds of players use a well know glitch to acquire them they should have been made available to ALL players, not just the bot users and those who took advantage of the glitch.

    Dark Orbit does absolutely nothing for the player.. simple.

    Peace :cool:
     
  18. -xghost-

    -xghost- User

    True. There is one big problem in DO. BP must do this (increase the uri cost to be good - UFE) to keep old players pay. But its ruing the game for new players - when they calculate, how much they would pay or how much time they need to spend, they just even dont start playing.

    It is "must be" problem of all games, that have such real-money currency, that is used to buy almost everything in game. The game is more and more unplayable for newcomers/non-payers.

    The question is, if the wave of starting players is enough to keep the game alive. I think and hope the answer is no, so BP will have to do something with it. Hope, it will not be deleting the game :)
     
  19. Jurjstyle

    Jurjstyle User

    If we talk about UFE ... we have in general 30 zeta for 10 havocs,thousands of booty keys for lf4 , 110k of uri for every item at lvl 16 and we have 35 lf4,10 drones,15-20 shields, so milions of uri.We also have the aegis/citadel(but now there are at trade) and we have 10 hercules that means other 40 kappas.If we made a total ... we have more than 10 million of uri if we don't made the gates with uri and if we made them with uri we'll have possible 20 million of uri.
    A normal player who plays 4 hours a day and let's say he make 5k uri / hour will make 20k uri per day.For getting to 10 million of uri means years.
     
  20. KłŁŁER

    KłŁŁER User

    They should make the B02 and the LF3 cost 7500 uri.