Discouraging UFEs from picking on newbs

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  1. This is just an idea that I came up with to help newbies survive the game. I admit that, since the botters were gone, Dark Orbit reduced the pushing limit a lot and this does help, but all I am doing is suggesting a bit more.

    Something that goes in the extra slot. If equipped, a special icon (whatever catches your fancy) will be displayed next to your username or company icon. This tells others that you have it.

    What does it do? Quite simple, actually. If player destroys a ship equipped with this extra, they will either get half, quarter or no experience or honour. Since this is (in theory) the driving force for PvP, it should be enough to discourage attacking equipped ships.

    Of course, something that can be abused should have a disadvantage. The equipped ship does not gain honour or experience if it destroys another player.

    Why should this be implemented? It allows those who don't like PvP or who won't last three seconds against a FE ship to show 'they mean no harm' while allowing the big guys to pummel each other to their hearts content without the fear of losing anything.

    Price? Given its function, it should be a Uridium object as long as it is not too expensive but I am open to suggestions.

    Of course, this piece of equipment only discourages attacks, not prevent. So if a UFE is hell bent on destroying you whether you have one or not, well, bad luck.

    This is just a suggestion and I am not in a hurry to get this implemented.
     
  2. cooljak96

    cooljak96 User

    You are aware that this is a PVP game, right? The whole point is to build up to a point where you can fight other players, not to equip a chip and just fly around killing aliens.

    You say that it can't be abused because neither ship gets HP or experience. However, what about the UFEs that get this chip, farm like crazy, then take it off to hunt. There is no difference.

    It's a PVP game, the whole point is to battle other players, not to get a chip to "turn off pvp".
     
    -AdamantiumDragon- likes this.
  3. Sorry King David don't think this will work.Think about it most killers don't really care
    about ep and crap like that. They wanna see you pop(bonus) have you come to forums with ideas like this. Like cooljake96 said this is a PVP game.So concentrate on getting stronger, refine your tactics and if you play long enough you'll eventually get your revenge:cool:
     
  4. SPSAT99

    SPSAT99 User

    Umm, another main reason is missions, you forgot about that?
     
  5. Oh my god, it's a PvP game, trying to get rid of the PvP aspect is a NO NO. Stop crying, don't like? Find a new game.
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  6. This is not a measure to stop PvP altogether, if you haven't realized. All this is doing is preventing the opponent from getting honour and experience. It is simply something that says: 'I am not interested in PvP right now'. I am pretty sure I said 'It only discourages, not prevent.'

    Having this does not stop you from popping someone. It only ensures you get nothing (except for the joy of watching someone go pop) from it and therefore discourage.

    Which is why I said: '...if a UFE is hell bent on destroying you whether you have one or not, well, bad luck...'.

    This idea is relatively balanced compared to some of the other ones I am seen in the forum (the following are just a few examples: http://en.board.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/showthread.php?t=535439, http://en.board.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/showthread.php?t=523349)

    º¤»ĐЯΣΔΜ◊†◊ÐΣМΦИ«¤º, I think I need to convey to you that I do like Dark Orbit as it is, I am not trying to get rid of PvP and I am certainly not crying.

    cooljak96, what you said about this being abused is quite true, so that is a shortcoming that I'll find a way to fix.

    And note the last phrase 'This is just a suggestion and I am not in a hurry to get this implemented.'
     
  7. want to protect new players ?
    let them think
    if they want to be saved need to be able to run
    run means a ship with hi speed
    hi speed ship means VENGEANGE
    so ...
    tell them to
    get a VENGEANGE
    add 10 speed generators of 2k uri each
    add promerium to them
    add 7-8 flaxs
    add best shields they can have on flaxes
    AND
    also tell them to forget GOLIATH if they donot become FE

    so simple ... no need of cpus and other tricks
     
  8. yeah let them get a venge and be out-run by speed hackers that are blatantly still around, i agree make a chip or a few maps where pvp is not allowed at least allowing newer players to get to grips with the game before being constantly attacked by UFE's who just try to bully and own everything as they feel that they deserve "respect" or whatever just because they have been on the game for years and spent soo much money on it, try making it more viable for new players to want to play the game then the servers like Gb1 would not be as dead as they are. . .

    Only full UFE's dont want ideas like this to pass because that means they cant hunt in lowers or pick on newbie players and ships . . so if you only want the players that you have now and no new players to join then ideas like this are a NO NO but if you want new players to join the game and potentially "Stay" playing the game then ideas like this NEED to be considered !
     
  9. It is hard enough to get stronger to get to the PvP level when you need to do PvE quests. How many of you did your PvP quests in a noobish phoenix/or any of those crybaby/credit ships? None - breakout your wallet?! Sorry, but avg/good (make that GREAT) game shouldn't cost $6,000. This should be a subscription game the way things are going (85,000,000 each, so called players x1 yr. prem - should cover it). Now we can all play like it is '2009'. I keep on running into PvP players trying to my NPC quests. I wonder do any of the PvP players do that NPC quests - I ponder.

    And nooby players need to stop flying Goliaths. Fly weak die weak. Get a Leo - FE it up and then the Vengi - FE that - become an UFE Vengi and upgrade to Goli or not
     
  10. the vengi solution doesnt promise that noobs will become immortals
    promise (and this is valid) that will reduce by a huge percentance the deaths
     
  11. I carefully designed this idea so that it would stop (or at least reduce) attacks on small ships by big ones without changing the balance of the game. This idea does not affect the basic gameplay mechanics (damage, speed, health, shields etc) in a stupid way while providing protection for the smaller ships.

    I never attack credit ships unless they attack me or another VRU first because I perfectly understand how hard the game can get sometimes. I can't ask everyone to do the same, so I am suggesting a means of making small ships 'less appealing' as targets.

    I must reiterate that protection is theoretical and like _-DarkOverLord-_ explained, some killers don't care if they don't get anything from popping you.
     
  12. Most people disagree with things like this simply because, it makes it harder for them to get their kills half of the people in this game are using certain things that well...let's just say are illegal. The strong players in this game could completely careless about weaker, or new players then they make suggestions that are completely worthless when dealing with an uber fe that only needs to touch you to make you pop.

    Nothing will get done until this game is empty, and the stronger players have nobody to hunt these days the only thing I can do is npc's, because my community is driving them away, it's not even the opposite company that's annoying noobs it's lazy people who are strong not defending their maps, or working together which is why I turn my back on my own company.
     
  13. SPSAT99

    SPSAT99 User

    if you wanted to reduce attacks through lowering rewards, what do you say about those pvp quests? nobody cares about lowered rewards if they get rewards through their quests.
     
    ROULOUS___HELLAS likes this.
  14. xXxZenxXx

    xXxZenxXx User

    man really? go play HayDay in your phone if you dont want people picking on you... we all went through that and newbies should too.. thats the whole point of the game.
     
    Omega likes this.
  15. Hi King, to be honest, DO has implemented something like that already in which the more you kill a helpless ship, the less honor and ep you get.

    Also, the point of this game is to kinda get you to spend some money so that you can compete with stronger players., Yes this can be achieved without spending a dollar, but it takes longer.