Kami does not work in crab formation

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  1. -Cyphis-

    -Cyphis- User

    Just as the title says, kami will not work while your drones are in crab formation. Tested this multiple times with multiple NPC shooting me. The only way to get the pet to kami while in crab formation is to shoot it.

    Does this issue occur for anyone else?

    --- Proof of concept ---
    I have shot an NPC while in crab and selected kami with no success. I then switched formations after several seconds and it then worked. I have also started off in a different formation, selected kami, and it works immediately.

    *Note: Pet HP remained at 2,500 throughout all tests and scenarios. NPC were shooting and doing damage back every time.
     
  2. Wow... Crab stops you from taking dmg, to your hp, of course pet won't do anything if you're not taking dmg -.-
     
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  3. -Cyphis-

    -Cyphis- User

    I realize that. You still take damage to shields. Why should it matter to only HP?
     
  4. It has always been like this, most likely intended not a bug!
     
  5. The pet will only kami if you are taking dmg to hp noob.
     
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  6. -Cyphis-

    -Cyphis- User

    Sigh... perhaps you should educate yourself on proper respect before responding. I'd rather not deal with you and your obvious lack of intelligence. This is merely a topic where the question is not how the game mechanics work, it's if it is intended to work this way. But yet again, we come back on your intelligence issue at hand which cannot comprehend the meaning of something. Go to school ^^

    Back on topic. Nowhere does it say that kami shouldn't go off before you have taken damage. Let alone what type of damage has to be taken. I can understand why it doesn't go off before damage is taken. If it were stated somewhere in-game that specifically said that you had to take direct HP damage I would accept that. However, it doesn't.
     
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  7. When your P.E.T. or ship is close to being destroyed, the Kamikaze detonator will start the self-destruct sequence and explode, thereby taking out all enemies in the immediate vicinity.

    You cant be destroyed if only your shields are taking dmg can you
     
  8. Tells me i'm not intelligent, is too dense to know how to read.
    Crab Formation
    Augment your drone control unit with the Crab Formation.

    Increases shield absorption by 20%, but reduces speed by 20%.

    A pet kami, only works when the pet or you has about 3k hp. If the pet is at 2500 since that's what it reps at, and you take dmg to your hp it will launch, BUT, since you're so dense and can't realize this, when using CRAB you have 100% protection to HP against npcs or anyone not using moth. so your hp takes no dmg, meaning the pet will not launch, get a god damn education before telling me i'm not intelligent, how stupid do you feel right now that you just got told off on something so simple? Noob.
     
  9. Hahahahah come on dream dont be such an ass with this poor guy CX

    yeah noobs! take that!
    hahahahha
    ummm whaever
    idk
    hell yeah im cool
    so wassup noobs?
    oh yeah umm see ya i just had to let everyone know how Dream Demon loves me hahaha why? cuz im cool
    hahahahah
     
  10. -Cyphis-

    -Cyphis- User

    There's this thing in English we call "or". It means either event can happen for the action to be taken. My pet already respawns at 2,500 after each kami. There's no reason it shouldn't go off no matter which damage taken because it's not stated anywhere that your ship has to take HP damage. Again, go to school ^^

    Not at all. I enjoy watching you struggle to try to prove that you're smart.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2014
  11. Are you serious mate? YOU HAVE TO TAKE DAMAGE! You can't have your pet respawn at 2500 and then have it instantly pop, DAMAGE HAS TO BE TAKEN!
     
  12. -Cyphis-

    -Cyphis- User

    Like I said, it shouldn't matter whether it be HP damage exclusive. Shield damage should count too.
     
  13. I think people who have kami or played a while have known this..but it is understandable why someone could miss interpret how kami works....as the description in the shop reads just like this :

    "When your P.E.T. or ship is close to being destroyed, the Kamikaze detonator will start the self-destruct sequence and explode, thereby taking out all enemies in the immediate vicinity."

    The underlined part is added for emphasis, so according to DO's own description, you or you pet ONLY have to be low HP, it DOES NOT state you need to be actively taking damage to HP specifically.

    Most have known this, but it is totally understandable that someone would read the shop description and be mislead by DO. Just because you have been around and know things Demon, don't jump down other peoples throats for being mislead by Dark Orbit. If anything be happy:) that you are knowledgeable and can help save people from DO's tricks and false advertising.

    Be glad you can help, and not righteously haughty that you "know" it all.

    Smart people with a chip on there shoulder can be ...sigh...tiring.
     
  14. -Mongrel-

    -Mongrel- User

    Could we leave the insults out of the discussion, please? Tired of the childishness in this game as is.
     
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  15. No it shouldn't, when the pet was introduced it was meant for a last minute attempt to win a battle, it was never meant for npc killing, yet we use it that way anyways, why the hell would it be used to saved us at last second if our hp took no damage genius? Get your god damn facts straight, i have been right this entire thread, but you're too dense to accept i'm more intelligent then you, and won't listen to a damn thing i say. Whatever fool, i'm done in this thread, i told you how it works, you don't wanna listen? Have fun being the scrub you are.
     
  16. ASTRAEA

    ASTRAEA User

    Thank you all for your input on this matter. As always the input from the community is greatly appreciated. Please remember that when posting on threads of this nature, not everyone is going to agree as to how your posts are worded. However it is forum etiquette to accept the offered information by all posters as an attempt to be helpful and not turn a good deed into something negative.

    With that said,

    I am aware of how the Current Kamikaze description reads:

    When your P.E.T. or ship is close to being destroyed, the Kamikaze detonator will start the self-destruct sequence and explode, thereby taking out all enemies in the immediate vicinity.
    After the detonator has gone off, your P.E.T. will be massively damaged and have to be repaired.

    After testing your issue with the Crab formation, you are correct the PET Kamikaze does not want to engage.

    Reason for this is, your ship in the crab formation has an increased shield absorption. Therefore the ship its is not actually taking True Damage which is damage to the Hitpoints. The kamikaze will not engage until True Damage to the Players Hitpoints is recognized.

    I have looked at the description and it is a bit vague on this issue, I will pass it on to request this be updated for clearer understanding.

    But the reality of it is... Your ship Hitpoints have to be damaged before the kamikaze will engage.


    Does the OP (Original Poster) have any further questions on this topic?

    Have a nice day
    Astraea
     
  17. -Cyphis-

    -Cyphis- User

    Lol. That's all I can do when I read "i'm more intelligent then you". In case you haven't figured it out, your grammar is pitiful. You were not right at all actually. You claim to know that it was only meant for HP damage only yet nowhere does it say on the entire darkorbit franchise that it has to inflict HP damage. You're one of those dull-minded people that assume you're correct by going along with the "crowd". I don't accept what you say because of your lack of intelligence and respect. You should probably work on that before looking for a career in the future or you will fail miserably.

    I doubt you even know what Action Script is. If you don't know what that means at first look, you can not possibly know the mechanics of the game. Don't act like you're smarter than someone at a game you know nothing about other than clicking and pressing buttons.

    By the way, being done with the thread doesn't mean coming back to read Astraea's post :) I made it very clear I would only accept an answer from a staff member yet you claim to know everything.

    Be that as it may, thank you Astraea. I appreciate your well-written and respectful response, and for your help to make this clearer in the future. You may close this now.
     
  18. ASTRAEA

    ASTRAEA User

    Thank you for your patience and understanding, I will work to get the wording addressed in a little clearer manner.

    Please have a nice day all
    As requested Thread closed.

    Astraea
     
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