Rank points are a joke.

Discussion in 'General Archive' started by Star*Fire, Aug 5, 2014.

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  1. Star*Fire

    Star*Fire User

    Been playing for a bit now. The one thing I have notice is that gaining any type of rank means you have to play a lot of hour's each day. I admit I only play about 2 hours a day when I can. But now that I'm working 10/12 hr. days. Any rank score I may have gained will be lost. The other thing is no matter how much I gain it always seams a 100k is added every time so all in all I never gain. So by looking at how it works and how long you must have to play daily to gain any rake. Make's rake a farce. just like those the daily drops in rake, when we all become basic space pilots. Rank is a joke.
     
  2. Rank isnt a joke. Number of any rank give a system etc. 1 genera, 1 basic general, 3 chief colonel, 7 colonel. For the general you must have the most rank points on company, for basic general you must be 2nd with the most of rank on company ... same is till basic space pilot. So for get better rank you must have more rank points than the player who have less rankpoints with rank which is better than your.

    Only what is problem that I can't figure out is about what depend how much will be amound of same rank.
     
  3. Hello Star*Fire

    The badge rank points are calculated on daily basis and it depends on various factors like some people might farm or do gates more then what you are doing and also rank points increases because of some players who are highly ranked and if they switch company then as a result there is significant increase in badge rank.

    Rank points are used to calculate your Badge rank which is the symbol next to your ship on the game page. The formula can be found on the "Your Rank" page in the Hall of Fame.

    The experience and honor figures in the formula used to calculate Badge Rank are:

    Experience points / 100,000
    Honor points / 100

    You can read more about it here> Ranking System FAQ


    I would move this to appropriate section for further discussion.

    =THREAD MOVED=

    From: General Issues
    To: Speakers‘ Corner
     
  4. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Completely agree, on one of my servers in EIC there is 1 General, 1 Basic General and 1 Chief Colonel, with only 80,000 rank points between Chief Colonel and General.

    Chief Colonel should not be as hard to obtain as General, there is should be minimum number of ranks, so like 5 Chief Colonels, 20 Colonel, minumum etc to make it more like the rank system when the game was still popular.
     
  5. Star*Fire

    Star*Fire User

    I believe they are a joke only because to gain a higher rank you must play more then about 2 hours a day. Like I said in my post do to the fact that I have to work for a living an pull 10/12 hr shifts for the next month or two any rank points I gained towards my next promotion are lost. I understand how it's figure just don't agree. should be a set number that we can reach not a changing number on a daily bases. I like the game but it's hard to find time to just goof off. You can close I don't see anyway to change it. Have fun and play nice ;)
     
  6. ..............General ..................Max 1 per company
    ..............Basic General...........0.01% of company
    ..............Chief Colonel............0.1% of company
    ..............Colonel ..................0.5% of company
    ............. Basic Colonel ......... 1% of company
    ..............Chief Major............ 1.5% of company
    ..............Major ................... 2% of company
    ..............Basic Major ............2.5% of company
    ..............Chief Captain .........3% of company
    ..............Captain ................ 3.5% of company
    ..............Basic Captain ........ 4% of company
    ..............Chief Lieutenant .....4.5% of company
    ............. Lieutenant .............5% of company
    ..............Basic Lieutenant..... 6% of company
    ..............Chief Sergeant....... 7% of company
    ..............Sergeant ...............8% of company
    ..............Basic Sergeant ....... 9% of company
    ..............Chief Space Pilot .....10% of company
    ..............Space Pilot .............12.29% of company
    ..............Basic Space Pilot .....20% of company

    First what I have to say on this, THIS DONT WORK GOOD !

    Players on global europe 5.

    MMO Members 5,911
    EIC Members 5,765
    VRU Members 5,699

    On global europe 5 each company have:
    1 general (its ok)
    1 basic general (its ok, every 10k players on company come 1)
    2 chief colonel ( this isnt ok, every 1k players come 1 chief colo. so must be 5)

    How you can see this system dont work good.
     
  7. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Your maths is 100% correct, however years ago DarkOrbit put in a system that stops level1 accounts being counted towards the ranking because they believed players were using bots to make thousands of accounts to then make more of the higher ranks appear.
    So on GE5 there will be between 2,000 - 3,000 active accounts that are lv2 or higher.

    However, this update was quite controversial since nobody actually saw any bots advertised that were developed for simply making accounts. There is also the issue of a capcha code once you make a few accounts in the same day. On top of that packet bots are now completely useless. So it does make you wonder why it was really made in the first place or why it still exists.

    The other issue was we were told by the then developer, Sephiroth, that the rank system would be getting a reword!

    This was posted in 2012. Obviously scrapped a long time ago, like many this were are promised in the roads maps, but at least they existed back then.
    http://en.board.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/showthread.php?t=478524
     
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  8. pecanin

    pecanin User

    Has been a joke for long time now..since start of the game .

    Basing rank on PvE in game that is PvP is joke

    Rank proves nothing so why care about it

    Yay look at me,i have been circling BK since 2008 ...woo i is General

    Anyways all good ranks are held by boters
     
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  9. Actually, this Bot existed and has been used extremly on 1 German Server. Don't remember which Server that was but Colonel needed around 20.000 Rankpoints o_O
     
  10. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Ah yes, actually I remember that, DE1 VRU had 120,000 members, but it whoever made the bot didn't ever advertise it and that was before the captcha was introduced to stop bots making more than a few accounts.

    The whole "lv1 accounts doing count towards the rank system" is still pretty useless in today's game and has been for years.
     
  11. This happen when bot user organised shoot down server because of to much players on one map
     
  12. ..............Space Pilot .............12.29% of company
    ..............Basic Space Pilot .....20% of company


    The bottom percent do not count toward rank, so you need more people on the second percent (Space Pilot)s to build the ranking pyramid. A loss of 7.71 percent which is huge.

    Was Colonel and then DO implemented this and have been Basic Colonel or toeing the bottom line ever since.
     
  13. I think rank system itself is pretty good as it is. Those people who have played for years deserve better rank than those who have started later but play as much as the old players atm. Also people who use tons of money and do abg gates deserve better rank than players who play max two hours in a day.
    The frustration of old players would be massive if suddenly every noob would be major or higher in a blink of an eye.

    Maybe, one thing that would benefit everybody, also the old players, would be to slightly adjust the % of ranks for example... %-system must stay but if we adjust them it would be easier to reach higher rank but also the current high rank players would jump up in ranks which would be good.


    • General (max. 1 for company)
    • Basic General (0.01%) -> 0.02%
    • Chief Colonel (0.10%) -> 0.20%
    • Colonel (0.50 %) -> 0.78%
    • Basic Colonel (1.00%) -> 1.5%
    • Chief Major (1.50%) -> 2.5%
    • Major (2.00%) -> 3%
    • Basic Major (2.50%) -> 4%
    • Chief Captain (3.00%) -> 5%
    • Captain (3.50%) -> 5%
    • Basic Captain (4.00%) -> 6%
    • Chief Lieutenant (4.50%) -> 7%
    • Lieutenant (5.00%) -> 7%
    • Basic Lieutenant (6.00%) -> 8%
    • Chief Sergeant (7.00%) -> 8%
    • Sergeant (8.00%) -> 8%
    • Basic Sergeant (9.00%) -> 8%
    • Chief Space Pilot (10.0%) -> 8%
    • Space Pilot (15.00%) -> 8%
    • Basic Space Pilot (20.00%) -> 10%
    In this new system, 12% of player would be basic major or higher, currently 7.61% of playes are.
    8% of players would be major or higher. Currently 5.11% of players are major or higher.
    Basic colonel or higher would go from 1.61% -> 2.5%

    Changes would not be too massive but it would be easier to get higher rank this way, everyone would like this.

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    And one fun fact just to point out to people making calculations of current ranks and stuff...: people who are outlaws don't count towards rank system, if there are 10000 players but 500 of them are outlaws, there will not be 100 basic colonels, only 95.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2014
  14. Star*Fire

    Star*Fire User

    This Conversation is a good one and I thank you all for your info. I've learned a great deal about how rank works and the math used to achieve the outcome. I play us westcoast and we too had a big bot issue. Also I do believe the longer you play the higher your rank should be or you should receive some type of compensation for your seniority in your company. Now I ask how do you find more then 2 hr. daily to play a game? I'm not being rude or anything with that question but I have a hard time doing gates. Because some of the waves take so long to do and you can't save in a wave then come back later when you have time. Maybe I can cut my sleeping time down a bit. LOL Anyway Thanks again for answering my whining.
     
  15. jackknife

    jackknife User

    It would be nice if rank something than bragging rights
    Just a bit more speed or hp something that actually matters...
     
  16. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    No.
    Unless you want the game to become even more pay to win.
     
  17. chixonator

    chixonator User

    well i wouldnt mind since i have good rank :D
     
  18. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    I do as well and I'm only 80k rps off the General who doesn't even play, but making rank be anything other than purely cosmetic is a terrible idea for the game x)
     
  19. chixonator

    chixonator User

    well i guees it would make BP more money :p
     
  20. ramnik

    ramnik User

    Come on guys dont put idea's in their head's :p they'd do anything to make more money :p