Fix Crab Formation

Reported this issue two years ago and it is still not fixed

test kami whilst using crab and you will see what i'm saying.

 

Hi pecanin,

The crab formation as you most likely know, increases your shield absorption by 20% and in most cases with the equipment the player has, this ultimately means the shield absorption will reach 100% meaning all damage will be directed to the shield.

The kamikaze will detonate when you have received actual damage (damage to your hitpoints), since the crab formation restricts the damage to your hitpoints this means that the kamikaze will not detonate.

~Ddraig

 

yea its the only formation kami wont work in

 

For Kami to activate, you have to be getting hit through your hitpoints.
If you want to Kami, just switch to another formation and switch back, easy.

 

So those of us that bought it have been cheated ?

description says nothing about it and it is only formation with two handicaps.

 

Nope, that's how it always works, the point of crab is to give your shields more strength/prevent your HP from being damaged.

Kamikaze on PET was coded to detonate when your HP is being affected, not shields.

EDIT: Crab and Kami have been here for a pretty long time (2 or 3 years?) and I'm pretty sure you're the first to say this.

 

Thank you all for assisting this player with their issue.

Does the OP have any further questions on this topic?
Have a nice day
Astraea

 

Nope Astraea no point saying more except to ask coders to change description of crab formation

 

I will pass your thought on that on, to see what they say.

Thanks alot
Astraea

 

Yea, just change the Kamikaze Detonator's Description to something like:

Crab Formation can have this at the end:

 

As many have assisted in this, we appreciate the feedback, however the crab formation description may vary from player to player. The true 100% shield absorbtion really comes from players pilot points. If you don't have certain points you could still take damage to hit points in the crab formation. Although players do have those points they will not take damage until the hit points are damages therefore the kamikaze will not detonate until the hit points are being affected. The crab formation only gives the percentage described in the description it does not however give you 100%. The pilot points help with that, so with all players it will vary. But we will take your feedback into consideration and pass it up to be looked into. I hope all the posts including mine will help you in your gameplay.
-Gravitron-

 

Actually Crab doesn't work at all ,should be either fixed or removed




Crab Formation
Augment your drone control unit with the Crab Formation.

Increases shield absorption by 20%, but reduces speed by 20%.

As long as you have 6 or more drones, you can use this formation any time after you‘ve purchased it.



Moth Formation
Augment your drone control unit with the Moth Formation.

Increases shield penetration by 20%. Hit points are also increased by 20%. But it weakens your shield strength at a rate of 1% per second.


If you look at these two descriptions then what Crab should do is completely negate Moth shield penetration ability ...but it doesn't as i'm getting hit directly to hull way more then 8 % that bio allows

For example ,player whose damage is 100 000 should only hit me 8000 directly to HP but hits way way more ....even counting all rockets and missiles i'm still getting hit 2 much if both bio and crab work as intended.

Just have look at description of both :

Moth Formation

Increases shield penetration by 20%.

Crab Formation

Increases shield absorption by 20%

This to me says that crab should negate all extra damage from moth but it doesn't ...get into your admin ships and test it and you will see ...

Either these two don't work as intended or Bio doesn't work as intended

If two players are fighting and both have maxed evasive manuvers and electro optics those two should cancel each other ...but do they really ?

 

Crab will only boost it to 100%, no more. So if you have crab on, and someone comes with moth, your shield hull will be at 80/20.

 

Without the pilot points, you can still have 100% absorption, only if all your equipped shields are B02s, which gives 80/20. Crab adds the 20%, so 100/20, without pilot bio.

 

bio makes it 92/8 + crab 112/0 - moth 92/8 so really the crab and moth counter but the damage is till going to penetrate to your hp by the simple fact if somebodies hitting hard enough your hp will still go down at a considerable rate

 

The hits from players and NPCs goes straight to your shields so kami wouldn't work. Unless someone uses a moth on your crab that's a different story cause it will penetrate your hitpoints and your kami will go off

 

It is correct in saying the moth will negate the crab formation and will do some penetration through the shields to a players hit points as it does not give the player 100% anymore. Thank you for everyones feedback on this. The formations do work correctly, we have looked at this before and can assure you they work as intended.
-Gravitron-

 

Wait, I thought that the Shield Hull will only go up to 100/0 TOPS, whether you have the PP in Shield Mech.

 

Thanks for calling it by its real name

 

I see what you did there