overbidding in the auction

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  1. El_Burro

    El_Burro User

    Can you explain why you think the prices would be higher in the long term if you have to bid 10% more than the currently highest bid?
     
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  2. Just bid +10,000 over and over till time runs out - BOOM sold!
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2014
  3. Stillwrong is just sour after losing bids in the auction house.
     
  4. I disagree, the point of the auction is to outbid one another, over and over again. When have you seen an actual auction say "please make sure that you bid well over 50 to 70% higher than the total bid"? i mean, seriously, i dont wanna sound rude, but this game needs more than just a slight change to auctioning.

    Auction is a chance, people who cannot use uri, will use what little bit of creds they have, Telling players that they have to bid 100k more than the original bid is unfair because lots of players may not have 100k more.
     
  5. El_Burro

    El_Burro User

    The auction is not just for people who "cannot use Uridium".
    I am well capable of buying items with Uridium but still want to save some of it by getting boosters and cloak cpus from the auction, using the credits that dont serve any other purpose in the game.

    The point in a regular auction is to outbid one another over and over again. Agreed.
    But in a regular auction, you can react if someone went 0.003% over your highest bid. That is one of the reasons why you usually dont see people raising bids in such tiny steps.
    In the DO auction, you cant react because of the timeout.

    And please stop using figures like 50%, 70% or even 100% when you try to argue against this idea. We are talking about 10% here.
     
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2014
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  6. STILLWRONG

    STILLWRONG User

    Oh really?

    19.09.2014 - 13:00[​IMG]Auction won: Cloaking CPU XL
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    19.09.2014 - 13:00[​IMG]Auction won: Honor booster
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    19.09.2014 - 12:00[​IMG]Auction won: Cloaking CPU XL
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    19.09.2014 - 11:00[​IMG]Auction won: Cloaking CPU XL
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    19.09.2014 - 11:00[​IMG]Auction won: ACM-1
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    19.09.2014 - 11:00[​IMG]Auction won: Damage booster
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    19.09.2014 - 11:00[​IMG]Auction won: Hit point booster
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    19.09.2014 - 10:00[​IMG]Auction won: Cloaking CPU XL
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    19.09.2014 - 10:00[​IMG]Auction won: Experience booster
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    19.09.2014 - 09:00[​IMG]Auction won: Cloaking CPU XL
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    19.09.2014 - 09:00[​IMG]Auction won: ACM-1
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    19.09.2014 - 07:00[​IMG]Auction won: Cloaking CPU XL
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    19.09.2014 - 05:00[​IMG]Auction won: ACM-1
     
  7. STILLWRONG

    STILLWRONG User

    really glad someone like El_Burro is backing my idea up lol
     
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  8. i dont get why people are hating. This is a really good idea, but i think it should be 5% with a minimum of 10k
     
  9. Its a bad idea as it would apply another limitation with the same outcome.But the numbers would be higher.If you don`t like losing just over shoot the price like most people do when they want an item.

    It is funny how you bid on rockets and mines tho.And the reason its funny I don`t spend money to build gates and I can never bid on rockets or mines because i`m always overs stocked.
     
  10. its simply upping the price non ufe non prem players have to pay to get theyre equipment and ammo. i overshoot bids by 1+ mill or more on ammo and everything else, because i can and dont feel like waiting another hour to pick it up. But lower level players with limited resources will end up getting out bid on a regular basis simply because they cant afford +10%. that is if they can afford to bid at all.

    Also for those with the means to do so +10% wont stop the "ninja bidders" because they will still be trying to get the equipment etc as cheaply as possible; and the only way to win is to be the LAST bid,so what it comes down to is you will still have ppl bidding at the last min, and ppl being out bid at the last min it will just cost more to do it, which will only have a serious affect on lower level players

    What this sounds like is someone keeps getting outbid in the daily or weekly auction, and wants to find a way to make it expensive to out bid someone in these auctions. 10% would be a signifigant amount, 10%x1,000,000,000=100,000,000. Again this would have a more pronounced effect on lower level non ufe players.
     
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2014
  11. 10% or not, the issue is that its an auction and u can be outbid by a small amount. Its an auction geesh, you cant state to make things differently just because a player doesnt want to pay attention to the bidding. Sometimes i think folks want this game to be too easy at times.
     
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  12. Exactly its an AUCTION. pay attention, stop crying geesh
     
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  13. Hi, ŊΛŘΛÐΛ,

    Congratulations! Your bid of 1,500,010,000 Credits won you the auction for Spectrum (SD-SP-01)!

    Your DarkOrbit Team

    Well i think your idea has its point but if your idea is accepted to the system then for a example i have to pay 150mil credits extra Just to overbid spectrum and thats alot of creds just for 10%
     
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  14. atm Your concerned about a real auction, (real auction do not have a 10% increase o what the person above you bided) and people do outbid others by 10k in Auctions. This idea is horrible because it would force a massive increase in daily and weekly bids. as for hourly bids i could care less for being outbid by 10k credits, for daily and weekly you get outbid by that amount earlier i make another 100mill creds before he day is up. People will only spend what they want and what they can afford. adding 10% to the bids is like the useless 5% 10% or so removed in clan payouts. at 500mill with 10% removed we can se how much gets taken now take a bill and at 10% to that...
     
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  15. Thank you, Im not trying to be mean, but its an auction, you are gonna win some and gonna lose some, if you wanna win it, you have to make a good 1st bid and pay attention. You already get a notification that you were outbid on your backpage. I just dont see this being as very useful ya know. But I do appreciate you bringing a diff idea to the forum.
     
  16. STILLWRONG

    STILLWRONG User

    jeez you're just another one of those people who start sentences with 'it's funny how' 'it's sad how' 'I love how'...
    What's so funny about me bidding on rockets and mines? :)
    I am almost back in the Top 5 while you're not even in the top 200 with more playing hours then me. Guess how? By shooting stuff, while you're sitting in the middle of the palladium field picking up palladium I shoot stuff non stop. That's why I am able to get more stuff from the auction in a day then you're able to get in a month. Of course you don't run out of rockets if you don't use them lol.

    Props to you for writing down a reason explaining why you don't support this idea. Let's try to keep this thread about my idea and not about personal playing style please.

    I myself don't think 10% more credits are any kind of limitation and I also don't think the prices would go way higher, like some people here think.
     
  17. STILLWRONG

    STILLWRONG User

    you're right 10% is quite a lot when someone bids that ammount of credits on something, but imagine if someone overbid you by 1 million when 5 seconds were left lol.
     
  18. More moaning, and whining from the youngsters about how hard the game is... >.>
     
  19. STILLWRONG

    STILLWRONG User

    Like I said, I don't think additional 10% won't make the prices go crazy high and I think the average credit cost for the items will stay almost the same.
    You think I am someone that keeps getting outbid in the daily and weekly bids...lol. Well if you don't know me, Hi I'm STILLWRONG and other then 2 designs that I got from the weekly auction months ago, I have already purchased with uridium or found in booty boxes every design that is in the weekly and daily auction. I have 60+ XL cloack chips and 20+ days and on every single booster except for the ressource one.
    To your last post...lol. I have posted an idea that would make more sense to me then the way it's currently going. If you really don't like this idea at all don't look at the thread. You could go through every forum thread in the 'Update and idea' section and comment with 'Stop crying geesh' even though people are just trying to make the game better.
    If the community doesn't like my idea, oh well. I don't have any problems getting my items from the auction this way or another.
     
  20. STILLWRONG

    STILLWRONG User

    The darkorbit auction is based on the concept of a real auction. Try outbidding someone who bids 100.000 $ on a painting by 5 pennies, let's see what happens lol (that's basically what 10.000 credits are).
    You're right in a real auction you don't have to outbid someone by a certain percentage either.
    So what would be the solution to that? Giving a minimum ammount of credits on different equipment you have to outbid people by? Like making it a must to outbid the highest player by 2 million credits on a XL cloack chip, 1 million credits on boosters, 500k on designs,200k on rockets and lasers, 100k on extras? I find that a little complicated and silly to be honest.
     
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