COMBINE THE SERVERS!!!!

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  1. Please don't, just stop it.
     
  2. Uhm go play global servers, maybe that will help you? and if we repeat this enough I would die, same with everyone else. So uhm, NO.
     
  3. `Luke

    `Luke User

    Not starting a new account, already spend enough on my first one.

    So again, combine the servers! I vote +1
     
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  4. I vote no.

    Obvious secondary account to push the topic.

    Here are all my replies from old server merge threads, enjoy.

    These are past replies I've made on the subject. This is all copy and pasted and should be sufficient to stifle all of you and give other suggestions in place of server merges. Enjoy.

    How about no, why you might ask, well the amount of things that could go wrong is through the roof, entire accounts could and probably would be lost, equipment and other things as well, even if they got all that right ranks would be destroyed, players that paid for ranks suddenly lose ranks.

    One of my posts from another server merge thread:

    I have to disagree with everything on this thread for so many reasons, server merging, I just don't like the idea, it would be a waste of time and they'd screw it up, piss off player, etc, besides that, ranks would get further ruined, what about event ranks as well. Server merging would only be a temporary fix to a growing problem, the game needs advertisement and change and new players.

    A server merge would just cram players together and eventually those players would slowly quit, remaining players ask for more server merges, eventually 1 or 2 servers are left and no one players them, on the opposite end of the spectrum, if the game became lively again after a server merge, they'd have to remake servers. Some say server merges are impossible, I'm sure it's possible but would be worthless and would do more harm then good.

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    Server merges wouldn't be beneficial, some players have accounts on multiple servers, the simple fact remains that one day the servers would be over-crowded and they'd have to make more, it's pointless to merge servers then have to re-make one's you've deleted. The second idea is alright, the first seems pointless to me.

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    Unless everyone kept their ranks, the ranks would be destroyed, even if that happened, RP's would be through the roof and their already bad enough. Other ranks would be messed up and jumbled together. I don't have much faith in BP to do any of this right. Don't forget if someone had an account on two servers that were to be merged, what would happen to one of the accounts, all the progress on it, money possibly put into it?

    I could predict players quitting for a number of reasons from things going wrong with the server merges and said problems not being rectified to losing things on accounts or losing accounts entirely, again I don't think BP could do any of this right to begin with.

    There's a number of other things BP could do besides server merging that would be more beneficial in the long run, especially financially. Unfortunately they're to stupid to try and make the game more active, do you think they'd attempt a server merge? That would hinder any remaining profits.

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    How about no.

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    They've been trying and mostly failing to fill the dead servers, if they merged servers and the newly active servers became over crowded then they'd just have to recant the whole server merge anyways, meaning its just a short term fix which in the end would cost more and do more harm then good, the amount of data would probably be to much to keep track of and I wouldn't put it past DO to screw up everything and ruin entire accounts, why delete accounts for this monstrosity of an idea, if I had to choose I'd say don't delete any of my accounts, you forget ranks as well, event rankings and clan and player ranks, people pay money to achieve certain ranks and I'm sure they'd be less then happy to lose said rank.

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    The players that lost ranks in one thing or another would likely be upset, they'd most likely quit cause the maps to be just as dead, in the event of that more server merges happen, then more, eventually one or two servers are left with no one playing and ranks of all sorts are in complete shambles.

    Get wrecked fools.
     
  5. SPSAT99

    SPSAT99 User

    If there was server merges, you'd have bugs, deletions, and whatnot 1,000,000 worse then what happened with JPA. Cause basically, JPA is a smaller, but exact form of a server merge.
     
  6. ASTRAEA

    ASTRAEA User

    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    We appreciate your enthusiasm on this topic, however your thoughts on this topic have been passed on to the development team as can be seen in the Developers Blogs.

    We know that a large percentage of players feel that merging servers together as to create a more populated server would benefit the game. However when this game was created it gave players the option to have a different ship on each server. They never thought that this game would have the longevity it has had. Many players have ships on multiple servers... merging this, would be very difficult if not impossible as players would loss hard earned EP, Honor, not to mention equipment... as it would never be feasible to merge all ships equipment onto one account. Another issue would be the ranking system, a player who has one ship on a specific server where they have worked hard would be surpassed by a player who has 3 ships merged onto a new server.

    As we know that this has been requested. At this point in time, this is not something that is in the works for 2015 as far as we are aware. Please know that it is still being evaluated and if a change occurs you will be notified in the Official Announcements.

    Until then, please have a Nice day and enjoy your game!
    Astraea
     
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  8. `Luke

    `Luke User

    Seems like more people are for the merge than not. :| Dead servers need to be taken cared for. I wanna play the game, but the server is dead, nothing to do, and I am not planning to spend more money on a new account, new rank points, and do all those quests again. Either server merge of account transfer.
     
  9. STILLWRONG

    STILLWRONG User

    The way I see it, accounts do not need to be merged. This is all about merging the servers, not accounts. If you choose to play a different server, you choose to start the game again with a new user ID and the start up equipment, it would be silly to put 2 or more accounts together, you'd have certain stuff more then you'd even need and still be missing other stuff. Putting experience and honor points from multiple ships into one...forget it. If you have a ship on 2 servers that then merge you should still have 2 ships...but on one server.

    Are server merges needed? YES

    PS: welcome back astrea :)
     
  10. STILLWRONG you are absolutely right, server merges NEED to happen, i have not played dark orbit on over a year now simply becausemy server is completely dead. I play server GA4 and there's not alot of players at all. its almost impossible to go hunting and find a decent fight. Merging the server with another, or maybe even two more would make the game SO much more enjoyable for the high majority of players aswell as encourage old players AND new players to come back and enjoy the game. Don't you guys miss the days of those 10v10 PvP fights aswell as being able to play for hours with plenty of people to talk to and associate with? I for one do, and i have spoken to many of my old D.O friends which honestly all agree with me. Even though ranks may be changed, I much rather a basic colonel instead of a colonel if im on a server with an active community. Thanks Darkorbit and please, for the love of this fantastic game merge the servers. If anyone agrees with me on this topic, please speak up now, with many mouths, our voice will be heard!!!
     
  11. Lucci[AZ3]

    Lucci[AZ3] User

    This is so false.
    In another Game called "League of Legends" you can switch the Region for free and the second region change costs you a small in game payment but thats fair.
    It´s just a change of acc or the combining of server ... they will write a script or something.
    It´s like the script which was made to remove the skill tree points and upgrades of the items of the botters.
     
  12. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Those two things aren't even comparable if you knew anything about them ...
    One is a standalone client and the other is a flash game.

    If you have any clue about coding you would know you can't just say X game can do it so DO can as well. It wouldn't "just be a script like the one to remove some items from an account", don't be obnoxious enough to tell someone "this is so false" when you don't have a clue about it yourself.
     
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  13. I say merge "regional servers"... GB1 and 2 for instance....If the score table messes up a bit then compo would be cute...
    I think it's possible because they can put us in TA and the old JB...

    However, not sure if it will create more players? It will be the same players on one server, DO wants NEW players not same old...

    One last thing, the poor design of the game results in less players in the maps...If you notice when events are on, there are plenty of players about...This is the real problem that needs addressing.

    To summarize, the game needs better events in maps and help for newbs rewarded, you may be surprised that players will once again be in maps. The empty maps need looking at again too...Come on DO! Find the balance...
     
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  14. Correct.

    Unless everyone kept their ranks, the ranks would be destroyed, even if that happened, RP's would be through the roof and their already bad enough. Other ranks would be messed up and jumbled together. I don't have much faith in BP to do any of this right. Don't forget if someone had an account on two servers that were to be merged, what would happen to one of the accounts, all the progress on it, money possibly put into it?

    I could predict players quitting for a number of reasons from things going wrong with the server merges and said problems not being rectified to losing things on accounts or losing accounts entirely, again I don't think BP could do any of this right to begin with.

    There's a number of other things BP could do besides server merging that would be more beneficial in the long run, especially financially. Unfortunately they're to stupid to try and make the game more active, do you think they'd attempt a server merge? That would hinder any remaining profits.

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    I have to disagree with everything on this thread for so many reasons, server merging, I just don't like the idea, it would be a waste of time and they'd screw it up, piss off player, etc, besides that, ranks would get further ruined, what about event ranks as well. Server merging would only be a temporary fix to a growing problem, the game needs advertisement and change and new players.

    A server merge would just cram players together and eventually those players would slowly quit, remaining players ask for more server merges, eventually 1 or 2 servers are left and no one players them, on the opposite end of the spectrum, if the game became lively again after a server merge, they'd have to remake servers. Some say server merges are impossible, I'm sure it's possible but would be worthless and would do more harm then good.

    They've been trying and mostly failing to fill the dead servers, if they merged servers and the newly active servers became over crowded then they'd just have to recant the whole server merge anyways, meaning its just a short term fix which in the end would cost more and do more harm then good, the amount of data would probably be to much to keep track of and I wouldn't put it past DO to screw up everything and ruin entire accounts, why delete accounts for this monstrosity of an idea, if I had to choose I'd say don't delete any of my accounts, you forget ranks as well, event rankings and clan and player ranks, people pay money to achieve certain ranks and I'm sure they'd be less then happy to lose said rank.

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    The players that lost ranks in one thing or another would likely be upset, they'd most likely quit cause the maps to be just as dead, in the event of that more server merges happen, then more, eventually one or two servers are left with no one playing and ranks of all sorts are in complete shambles.

    Have you even read anything I've posted about why server merges are evil?

    Refer to the above spam, try not to ignore it this time.


    I'm sure you'd lose more than one rank. Server merges don't need to happen, the game needs a turnaround instead of a waste of time that would do more harm than good, refer to my previous post if you want to have all your arguments destroyed at once.

    As Okapi has said, the two games are completely different, LOL sucks but they probably wouldn't screw something up like I'd expect DO to, it would be a disaster. Try getting educated on the subject before you point someone else out as wrong, try coming up with a better argument as well, everyone else stop repeating the points I've made already.

    Stop repeating things that I've brought up, this is what needs to happen though :).
     
  15. In relation to Astrea's post I don't understand how merging accounts has come into the equation? It just seems like reluctance to do a large amount of admin work (such as polls on where players want their accounts etc). It is a large task, but it shouldn't matter if it means possible resurrecting the game.
     
  16. might it be possible to make all the different ships on the different servers into sub accts on the merged server so you keep all the accts just choose what server ship you want to run

    like
    playername113 est1
    playername113 est2

    add a tag for the server the ship came from then all is separate and you don't lose any work for running ships on multi servers that got merged

    srry for bad grammar don't really care as long as point gets across
     
  17. Merging accounts came into the equation when merging servers came into the picture, some players have accounts on multiple servers that if merged would mean lost accounts, lost work and money, etc. You should really try thinking of everything involved more.

    ''A server merge would just cram players together and eventually those players would slowly quit, remaining players ask for more server merges, eventually 1 or 2 servers are left and no one plays them, on the opposite end of the spectrum, if the game became lively again after a server merge, they'd have to remake servers. Some say server merges are impossible, I'm sure it's possible but would be worthless and would do more harm then good.''

    It would be beyond a large task for DO and I wouldn't put it past them to mess it up and piss many players off, further ruining the game and many would likely quit for various reasons. We'd quickly be in the same boat and eventually one server with no players remains.

    ''There's a number of other things BP could do besides server merging that would be more beneficial in the long run, especially financially. Unfortunately they're to stupid to try and make the game more active, do you think they'd attempt a server merge? That would hinder any remaining profits.''

    ''They've been trying and mostly failing to fill the dead servers, if they merged servers and the newly active servers became over crowded then they'd just have to recant the whole server merge anyways, meaning its just a short term fix which in the end would cost more and do more harm then good, the amount of data would probably be to much to keep track of and I wouldn't put it past DO to screw up everything and ruin entire accounts, why delete accounts for this monstrosity of an idea, if I had to choose I'd say don't delete any of my accounts, you forget ranks as well, event rankings and clan and player ranks, people pay money to achieve certain ranks and I'm sure they'd be less then happy to lose said rank.''

    I'm not basing my opinion around those that pay for ranks but that type of player would certainly not be happy with server merges, some would probably quit just over that.

    This idea would actually solve one problem but the concept of a server merge is still evil and bad :).

    Is everyone on this thread screaming for a server merge while covering their ears to my arguments on why a server merge is a bad idea? I can assume that and your saying your right and I'm wrong and that's why your ignoring my train wrecking argument. Are you even thinking about the logistics? A summary would be I need attention! But seriously, y'all really don't think of any of this.
     
  18. Lucci[AZ3]

    Lucci[AZ3] User

    So,the items ,exp,honor etc aren´t saved in a database ?
     
  19. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Everything about DO is saved somewhere. Just because its stored somewhere doesn't mean it can just be transferred without any issues and when you compared DO as a game to LoL and said that since LoL does it then DO can it was just daft. It might look like the same thing but its completely different in reality due to the coding and the limitations of a flash game.
     
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