Auction Refund Restrictions

I bet it was needed reading too.
The thing is, waiting for these credit bullies to lose interest or any other crappy reason to not experience loss is reason enough for everyone to rant.
If they do force everyone to bid high, the wait would be shorter yet if they are allowed to either buy everything like they are doing now without loss or make them pay heavily for that crappy tactic. The latter would be possible with this idea if it were in game.

 

You know, rev, credit bullying certainly is a big problem in this game, but it's only part of the problem if you ask me. The attitude or many members of the DO community is horrid oftentimes, especially among UE's and the sort. Guys, we know that the game's theme is basically Road Warrior in space, but that doesn't mean we have to actually act like it's [Removed] Road Warrior.

 

I agree, ideas to slow them down if not cripple their efforts are needed.

 

Made 80 mill creds today not hard when you work for it. Put as much effort into killing npcs as you do wanting to hurt every established player cause of some bullies you could do it too. I bet they come to this thread just to gloat they getting to you thats a win for them. Myself ill just bide my time make smart bids and catch them sleeping like at spaceball tonight on my server made out good .

Think about it if a bully is bidding on something they don't need they win it the credits are gone for them so hows this idea any different than hurting everyone that really needs it and gets cut out by the next guy that needs it too. So in a sense this idea only hurts the honest players trying to get the equipment they need. Not the bullies they losing that amount anyhow if they don't need it and doing it on purpose. I dont see how this cripples anyone but the good guys.

 

Sure IF the auction is full of stuff they don't want.....Add elite items and watch them drop like flies. See problem solved.

 

All I can say is good luck getting support to change an idea back to what it once was, especially considering lots of players spent years asking for the opposite of what you propose to be brought back. But hey, maybe if you propose this idea for enough years you may get your wish.

 

the new trade system ( auction ) has been adjusted to work in its current state for a little over a year now. this is the first time anyone has now said ( that i have seen myself ) that they want players to lose their credits all over again in a similar way to how trade used to work. as ive asked before dreadlok .. you want the UFE's to be stopped from bidding high for when they want to win a bid .. and also have the right i might add to bid what they wish, as high as they wish if it means they win. ever thought that some UFE's also keep getting outbid so feel the need to bid really high so THEY can win in trade as well? how exactly do you propose the devs go about stealing credits from the stronger players while YOU and others like YOU are to impatient to keep saving and trying again until you are successful in winning? how do you propose the devs distinguish the small newbies against the UFE players? and also, once you have what you need, and work towards other things to get stronger like your apis, zeus, upgrades etc and then decide to go for another hanger slot and you are close to UFE yourself, what are you going to do once YOUR credits then get taken and only 40 mil returned ? ask for the trade to be changed back to how it is currently now again because youre losing the credits you requested to lose? lol

 

If it weren't so sad I'd think this hilarious.

I can't answer for Dreadlok but my take so far is this.
The questions like "how do You propose this or that" are a waste of time.
This thread is set to stop credit bullies in game and forum fear mongering.
Should the day come when I can afford to lose more than 40 mill in auction, I will do so as a man and not cry in forum because my credits are too low and I can't dominate or bully noobs like I used to since the change but ultimately this would open the forum to new ideas without hearing how many will leave since only a few will allow the many from getting the good stuff in auction as you said. "just for the hell of it."

Shows me the real side some forum members are on with comments like that.

 

why is my question a waste of time? this thread was created by dreadlok proposing an idea. only a small handful of you guys think its a good idea as it is anyway just because you want everything youre own way and immediately and because you cant be bothered to work at your game and account like the rest of us have had to do , yet you arent prepared to suggest an idea for how this is to be made possible alongside the idea? as i have said before, this game, from the moment you very first register and begin on the beginner tutorials, right up to when you can finally sit back and say " yes .. im finally done building " is meant to be a progression done over time. bigpoint over the years, have changed things in the game over and over to make building up easier with new tutorials for beginners giving more than they did 6 years ago, including a better ship, more onboard items as rewards, the addition of palladium, showing what bidders are bidding in trade so you dont have to spend half an hour constantly bidding until you finally see your bid being successful at last ... but now, you want those who can bid to lose their credits if they get over bid .. unless of course you are just a low level newbie ? if youre not prepared to work at the game, what is the point in playing in the first place, not to mention, once you finally manage to get your succesful bid in for that LF3 or BO2 dont you enjoy getting at least a little bit of satisfaction to know you are progressing? this is what adds to the fun of the game, or at least, it is for me. elite items really arent that hard to come by, and after playing various servers over the years, you soon get used to what the average bid for items are anyway, so should, if you pay attention, at least have an idea what they go for, and when is the best and quietest time on the server to bid for. and dont take out of context what i said in 1 of my posts. i am neither a credit bully in trade NOR a forum bully. ive been trying to come up with suggestions almost all the way through to help you noobs learn how the trade works, how to make credits easier or faster, yet all you give me is bla bla bla on how the bigger guys are just bullies because .. pff. as i said, ive spent yrs helping noobs on the game, thro practical help and by giving clan credits in the millions, but this idea and all the crying on it just makes you guys look lazy. its nothing to do with you all getting over bid by richer players, its because you dont do much quick enough and cant be bothered. good luck hoping you will get your wish. if it ever does finally get approved, you will prob already be done building by then anyway, or have just gone and quit.

 

I have done the same. tried to help the see how easy it is to make credits but i guess some just want handouts or to hurt everyone else if they to lazy to do it themselves

 

Define a credit bully.

 

Check out post #47 and #59 Adam.
Thanx laser, I hope my wish comes true 2.

 

post #47 where i say your post makes me just want to go and outbid newbies now because i can? that doesnt make me a credit bully lol. as i said before , to reverant or whatever his name is, that was taken out of the context that i said it in. translated for you and the other cry babies over losing in trade .. i have helped newbs for years, given them credits from my clan and spent many many hours helping them kill big stuff for credits and complete quests for the rewards. in time, newbs have cried and cried for changes to be made to the game to make it easier for you and bigpoint have given in and done what you ask. now youre asking for people who have worked hard to get to where they are only to be deducted their credits in trade if they bid a high amount and lose if they are also overbid? you have stopped me, after 6, almost 7 yrs of gameplay, sympathising with newbies now. the easier BP make this game for you, the more you want to take. why even bother playing when you cant be bothered to put in any effort what so ever. i had to, many many others had to work their accounts. why should you now get it easy in trade even more so. trade is already easy with being able to see the current bids. just keep making credits and saving until you have enough to finally get your successful bid in. my vote regards this thread is +1 in favour of bigpoint stopping making the game to simple for newbs now and make you work the game and get on everyone elses level and finally stop crying and actually get in the maps and do something.

 

Those posts actually gave good reasons for why this idea is bad.

 

After reading this I see that the first post said that elite items were being bid for at insane prices, idk what the poster meant by elite items but i'm assuming they meant LF3's and BO2's in the auction. Which if that is the case the 40mil thing would be useless in getting those items because most of them go for (at least on the server i play on) for 15mil easily. Also in here they were saying that people were bidding billions on items in the auction. The only thing that goes for even around that much are the designs which should go for that much since they are hard to get and they are in the weekly section. This idea would not help noobs because all the standard elite items go for much less than 40mil. This idea is just to make the players who have worked to save up credits to get things that are on the way to UFE (like the designs) to lose all their credits that they have saved up.

 

It must be different where you are, I believe he was referring to items that are currently in game but not in shop or auction.

 

The primary reason the OP wants this idea is this. Dreadlok has said in other threads that he would like to see items like LF-4's Hercs and Havocs brought into auction. Other players posed opposition to that idea for one reason or another. Quite a few of the people who opposed that idea said one reason it was a bad idea is that if they were introduced they would go for so much in auction the Dreadlok would never be able to afford the billions they'd likely go for in auction. So, in an effort to solve that problem Dreadlok thinks that if losing bids are lost then people will spend themselves out of credits, lowering prices in auction, which would negate that reason to oppose his idea to bring uber elite items into the auction.

That is the primary reason for this bad idea.

 

the OP is referring to trade/auction. he says this already in his first post.

 

when the dev blog was first created over the re-work of how they were thinking about changing trade and possible ideas of what they were going to bring to the new auction ( possibly weekly or daily trade, lf4s etc ) the feedback went crazy. the devs then decided NOT to add lf4s. at the time, i think i only had 6 lf4s and 3 or 4 havocs when it first got added into the game under the new construction. a year later, im full havoc, all upgrades and 43 lf4s. and i think i appreciate my account even more. not a big spender, so im quite proud of the work ive put in so far to get where i am. still 5 hercs to go, still a few bo2 upgrades to go. just work it. work. work. work. alot more fun to

 

Fun to me is gettin what I want without someone behind me sayin "u can't have that", "u gotta suffer like me for that", "I don't want it so u can't have it" or my personal favorite "no because everyone will be butt hurt and leave."

This thread was created for several good reasons least of which is to point out to the Dev team that they almost got it right, the restrictions in this thread r balanced and fair. This is what the game needs to progress and u know it. TYVM!!!!