Unable to load the game / Major game flaw

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  1. Bolt

    Bolt User

    I can log into my account but when I press 'Start' the loading bar fills up completely and just stays there without logging me into the game...

    ^Trivial issue, I don't mind, I can wait till it is fixed. But now the main issue:

    It is that this game is primed to push away new players, you punish them when they die by making them spend uridium, if they don't have that uridium or a repair credit then they either have to wait until they get a repair credit as a log in bonus or enough uri from watching adverts and logging in 5+ days in a row. This wouldn't be such a major problem if there were dedicated PvE maps on which you could kill something better than a -=[ Streuner ]=- without fear of death. With all the maps being PvP there is nothing to stop advanced players in annihilating newbie ships over and over which just accentuates the problem caused by the pay to play mechanic on death.

    So that is the main issue, in my opinion this issue could be solved to an extent if you gave new accounts immunity from attacks for 'x' amount of time after creation (in the realm of weeks), or create purely PvE zones where players can rank up and play without fear of losing uridium and thus being unable to progress. The last option is to give an option between credits or uridium upon ship destruction.

    The pay to play death mechanic does an amazing job at pushing away new players and makes very little profit because the veteran players either have premium or have repair credits flowing out of their pockets, so it actually does more harm than good (I didn't play much and I myself have repair credits to last me weeks). No one wants to spend money to buy virtual currency to repair their ship if they don't even know if they like the game, let alone how demotivating it is to kill NPCs for ages and then get some if not all that uridium taken off you because you got popped by a UFE. And you simply won't get far without that uridium. (This is one of the major flaws of the game which pushes away new players).

    And do not think I am complaining, I manage just fine, it's just that I would like to see this game succeed and it simply won't do so with mechanics which are such a menace to the new player and yet yield the company hardly any profit compared to if the new player could play and repair their ship for free then maybe go on to be a longer term player which spends actual decent amounts. Of course when I say PvE I mean NO inter-player combat and by PvP I mean the current maps excl. pirate maps, 4-4 and so on.

    With the lack of players on the server it just becomes worse in the end, because to have new fights veteran players are most benefited by just popping newbies. This small thing is the MAIN barrier in player influx, players don't mind having to spend a decent while to kill things and work towards that lf-3 or whichever thing they need but going backwards is never fun, this also doesn't entice new players into going premium but instead entices them to quit, it doesn't work how you planned as far as I see.

    Of course the issue with implementing new PvE only maps currently would be that new players would stick to ONLY those maps and veteran players are now left with no cannon fodder and it might become boring/difficult to find and have new fights. So I think the best solution would be to make ship repairs have alternate payments like credits or be free, maybe have free repairs for 'x' period of time, however sucking £5 out of a new player which quits is far less beneficial than gaining a new player.

    I would like to see your thoughts on this in general... Please don't let all this have been typed in vain aha... Getting a response from someone who works at BigPoint just isn't going to happen is it? (I also know this would be better off in feedback but I have insufficient privileges to post there and this is a 'general issue').

    See you in game (if I can log in and don't quit aha)
    - Bolt
     
  2. Overall, I like the idea about paying credits for repair. Actually, the credit repairs are available now, but only for credit ship. By that mean, credit ship - credit repairs, is followed with uridium ship - uridium repairs :) Although, I can agree that I like to see credit repairs for uridium ship :) I think that it will help most of the players (especially those new players, cause most of them fly Leonov).

    About not being able to connect, don't know what to say. Try those default things, delete browser and flash player cache, or try different browser. For example, on my computer Firefox gives the best performance in this game.
     
  3. Bolt

    Bolt User

    Credit ships are borderline useless after even a day into the game and even then FE ships get trashed on by UFEs, simply not enough. Bu I am glad to see that they did do something good.

    Thanks, I'll try clearing my cache etc. Also I'm on chrome which has a built in flash player which sometimes messes with things like twitch so that may be it. (My internet explorer is so slow and full of virus' that just no aha)

    EDIT: Cleared the cache on the browser which fixed a problem which didn't show a notification that flash player was being blocked as a plug-in, thanks:p
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2015
  4. No problem at all, glad that I helped. In most of the cases, try clearing cache, as it might keep some old data and not see the "updated" new data, so the game won't work as it should.

    Anyways, as I said above, I agree totally about the credit repairs. I like to see uri ships being able to repair with credits. Maybe post this on update & idea thread on the forum, i will vote up for sure :)

    Have fun in game.
     
  5. They want you to buy premium for this , I don't see it changing. I dealt with lag for a long time. Don't waste money on the game until you have a good setup. The cure? Buy a gaming computer you won't believe how much fun the game will become. o_O

    EDIT: I wouldn't be so sure about very little profit, if it were losing money it would fold up in a hurry.
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2015
  6. ASTRAEA

    ASTRAEA User

    Thank you all very much for your input into this Idea, however this is the Technical section of the Forums. If you would like to propose your Idea for a credit based repairs, you will need to do that in the Update and Idea Pool area.

    I am not going to agree or disagree with your suggestion, however I will tell you that I have been here playing this game for over 7 years and there was a time when there were no protected maps, Players shoot on any map any level player. There were no outfits, so a player had to earn every bit of their rank. Many were assisted by players spending their own ammo to help other get kills or complete quests ... Getting nothing out of the kill or quest themselves. Missions did not offer such High EP/honor and the auction did not offer all the great things it has now - available to everyone. Back then if you bid you lost what you bid - even if you didn't win the auction.

    There are a lot of things that have been added to the game to make New and Old players happy. But as the old say goes... "You can make some of the people happy some of the time. But you can't make all of the people happy all of the time."

    Please make a post for your idea in this section:
    Update and Ideas

    Again thank you all for your input.
    Have a nice day
    Astraea