DarkOrbit Revival? [Galaxy Gate Revamp]

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  1. A lot of players from the Eastern 2 Server have decided that the current percentages for receiving rewards from galaxy gates are outdated and need to be addressed. The problem lies in the fact that a 33% chance for a LF4 or Havoc Drone Design is unacceptable and the odds need to be flipped to compensate for the time we spend working for these ultra elite items. Therefore, we would like to suggest a solution to this problem. Instead of there being a 33% chance to receive a LF4 from the Epsilon gate or a Havoc Drone Design from the Zeta gate it should be a 66% chance. We believe that this will make it possible with a fair amount of effort for new players to catch up to old players and increase the overall activity of players on every server. This will be beneficial to the game because players will feel like they are being rewarded for their hard work and as a result they will enjoy the game and continue to play. Thank you for your time and consideration. Please comment, we would really like to hear everyone's opinion. (HyperStorm)
     
  2. agree if it was more fair for more players who have no chance against old players who are strong and give them a fighting chance
     
  3. Okay, 33% is a low chance not a high chance. It's enough to do it 12 times for one LF4 and I've seen users who have been stuck 3 years ago not being able to be UFE because of this chance. An unfairness happen because one can get all of these with new users trying to catch up which seemed impossible now. It's not fun to do Epsilon like 300 times or more to get 31 LF4s, and that is estimated about pure 1800 hours or even more (It doesn't take months but years depicting how low the chances are). The same goes for Havocs, yet at least have to get 10 from a Zeta (Takes a long while to complete) being at least 800+ pure hours. Just look enough if we have enough time to even do that many pure hours, a lot of us actually can't and some can since there's too much time spent. This is a complete waste of time being a great boredom led players to exit out the game to more enjoyable goals to finish. 66% chance is far better than 33% chance, I have to agree because why do Epsilon like 12 times before one LF4 instead that you can do it 2-5 times to be satisfied that you have it? The chances please... don't make it harder than it already is... just make it far better so we can have a more enjoyable gaming experience as it is unfair to get nothing ultra about all the time from gates. This will also give new players an opportunity to get stronger and catch up to those old users which is what we all want.
     
  4. Won't do much. It's down to chance and in this game you can have 99% chance for something and you will probably still fail 2/3 times lol. As for people who have been here for years and still aren't , there are some with the exact opposite too
     
  5. 66% chance? Like really? Those items are made to be hard to get, otherwise everyone will shoot with LF-4 and be full Herc.

    Just, NO.
     
  6. We feel as if a 66% chance is reasonable because it still makes the items difficult to obtain, however the players will feel like they are making progress and that they are being rewarded for their hard work. In order to build one Epsilon gate I collect palladium in 5-3 for around 6 hours straight. It takes approximately 17,000 palladium for the gate to be built or 17,000 clicks of my left mouse button. Once the gate is complete, I finish the gate within 1 hour and wait in anticipation for the rewards log. It is a very disappointing experience when you work very hard to achieve something and you are not rewarded for your efforts. Nobody wants to click their left mouse button thousands of times a day for a reward that they are most likely not going to receive. It's a waste of time and there are much more interesting and fun things you could be spending your valuable energy on. This is one of the primary reasons that the population on all servers have declined exponentially over the past couple of years. We presented this solution because we would like for this game to still exist in upcoming years. Unfortunately, the way things are now we predict that in another year population per server will be reduced to a dozen players or less.
     
  7. Still, those items are "rare" ones, I don't think they should be optained that easy. Take into consideration those players who are full Herc for example. They will say no to this, as they have spent too much time, uridium on bunch of gates just to obtain all of that.

    I guess it is a bit too late for this idea, if I can say that :) Personally, I don't mind having 66% chance. But others will mind too much.
     
  8. These items will still be difficult to obtain because if you think about it statistically a 66% chance means out of every 3 gates you will receive 2 LF4's. Therefore, 45/2=22.5 multiply that number by 3 and the maximum number of Epsilons ,theoretically speaking, to obtain 45 LF4's would be 68. In order to build 68 Epsilons would still require a large amount of effort and time. The small percentage of players that will disagree with this idea will not disagree for long when they are playing an online multi-player game alone. The whole point of this post is to reward players for their hard work and effort. We're not asking for much and what we are asking will bring balance and new players to this decaying game. If we implement this idea it will benefit everyone.
     
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  9. I oppose this idea. Yes I am fully havoced, nearly full of lf4s, and i have 3 / 10 hercs.

    There are certain events that give players a chance to get havocs and lf4s other than galaxy gates.
    There is also Hades, Epsilon, and Kappa available to receive a lf4 from.
    And of course Zetas = havocs (only gate) and Kappa = hercs (only gate)

    I also calculated when I would have full havocs. Based it on a 25% drop rate in addition to the aprox number of spins it took to build a Zeta. I had gotten around 1.3k spins (I believe). I do remember going for 400 or more spins a day, opening about 1.6 Zetas a week or nearly 2. I would pally aprox 300-450ish spins a day and open Zetas during the week and then do them on the weekends because I was attending school and was busy with homework and such / other stuff that I did.
    It took me 22 Zetas to get 10 havocs (I have 11 havocs because of an event but i got all 10 from Zeta first)

    I know not everyone wants to apply the math and get an aprox time and day they'll be ufe. But if people really wanted something (ie lf4s/hercs/havocs) they could really try and focus to get them. I made it a goal to have full havocs by Summer (2013) and I did it. I know some people that (of course) want to be ufe but either don't play the game much already or dont really focus on their goal of attaining the ufe status.

    I've done about 9 or 10 Epsilons and have received 6 to 8 lf4s, and 18 or 19 Kappas for only 3 hercs. Im not mad, I just wait for my next Kappa that will only come as fast as I want it to. I actually have laughed a few times, predicting that I get nothing and then getting nothing lol.

    *Added*
    Everyone gets the end gate uridium for their time spent on making the gate, getting a chance item (lf4/herc/havoc) already is a bonus in itself. We don't get chance items from every gate, only from certain ones.
     
  10. We suggested this idea because the game is unbalanced and we wish for this issue to be addressed immediately. If you analyze the situation without bias and apply critical thinking skills the main reason why Dark Orbit's player fan base has experienced a sharp decline is because unless you use the Uridium tab the time and effort required to become UFE is absurd. I reiterate the fact that no one wants to collect palladium for hours a day for a reward they are most likely not going to receive. If anything guarantee that after the completion of a gate a (lf4/herc/havoc) will be awarded and make the uridium a chance item. This alone would help bridge the gap between elite players and new players. The question at the end of the day that everyone is going to ask is "Should I click my left mouse button hundreds of thousands of times, while constantly being destroyed, in order to have a chance to compete with a player fan base that is almost non-existent?". The answer to that question is simply "No". People will find better things to do with their time and I can't blame them because games are supposed to be fun and unfortunately Dark Orbit is not fun in its current state.
     
  11. TheShadows

    TheShadows User

    Good idea. Those who complain will stay on anyway because they invested too much in the game to quit.
     
  12. Those of us.. the Most Famous of the DO-Nut Crowd.. had to Earn and Burn Lots of Cash.. or Long long Hours, we Worked Hard to get where We are Today, Paid the Credit card Bills and Interest Payments to Finance our UFE Goli Account.. ( an Invisible Imaginary SpaceCraft )
    Some have Suffered Greater Losses.. like a Broken Marriages, lived out of the Trunk of a 97 Crown Victoria and Showered at Buddies homes just to add a Zeta a month to the Equation.. some had gone to sleep without Dinner.. sat on a Trash bag over the Sofa Cushion to keep IT Dry to complete the BK Wave in Gamma as New FEs and Countless other Stories of Dedication.

    Those that Roam the Maps lookin to Get another Kill DO so a Great Risk..

    Loss of FACE..

    ahe-emm mm.. choff choff.. hack.. keerrr kkuu kk.. Pit-too-ee..
    Ding..
    Excuuuse me.
    :oops:


    I will Roam the Maps looking to Add Kills to my Trophy Wall, but 95% of the Year Without Double or Any Boosters just to Give others the Braggin Rights to Say they Popped This NOOB..
    seems to happen alot just After the MegaHappyHour.. Megas Hurt..
    :confused: o_O


    I whisper my Enemy/Friends after a DOg-Fight and we Laugh it up.. We are here for the FUN, we have Earned our place.. Earn yours..

    I would like to SEE.. Better Odds at just Finishing a GATE Build.. they seem to be Favoring the X2 and Xenomite Rewards lately..

    spent over $140.00 on Energy Credit Specials.. and haven't got 2 complete gates Finished Yet..
    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


    Ive done better just by Boxing with the Doubler..
    :mad::mad:
     
  13. its not so much absurd, its simply the fact that we dont want to, its not designed to be a quickly level up game, this is a time consuming game, you dont need to be ufe to survive, you dont even need to be fe, and thats easy as crap to get now, its not time, its playing well...using experience. i say this as someone who has only spent $20 on this game, and has spent the last 2 years getting to a full lf3 full bo2 full iris ship, the iris arent full lf3 or bo2.
     
  14. Ive never spent any money on the game and im close ish to ufe (just missing the hercs and some lf4s as ive already said).
    I just pallied, yeah for a long time but it was by my choice.
    Getting fe takes probably less than a year. Maybe 5 months quickest whatever though.
    I got everything myself, without the help of clans, i've never used real money either. I pallied and saved uri and im getting pretty close to ufe. It's not impossible to become fe->ufe and nothing has changed in the game to make it harder to attain either. There was a time before havocs / hercs / lf4s / bio / upgrades / apis / zeus / irises. I would assume things will repeat, right now (for awhile now) there hasnt been any big item to come out (like the stuff i listed) so everyone has time now to get them, then sooner or later a new game changing item will be released then of course "wallet warriors" will pick it up first. Then the other "lucky" people will get it ~ then theres going to be a period where everyone has time to attain it then another game changing item -> so on and so on.

    Is there a point of thinking of ways the game HAS to change and complain about how the game is "unfair".
    Spend the time playing the game and trying to get that much better
    I'm not trying to say it isnt a bit frustrating to do tons of the same gate and still get nothing. Just dont lose hope and keep at it and you'll be ufe just like the rest of 'em, and hurry before DO adds some new game changer.
    Good luck and dont forget to have fun playing the game.
     
  15. Thank you for sharing your opinion. I find it very interesting, however it does not present a solution to the fact that Dark Orbit is terribly unbalanced. Do you understand why you don't want to become UFE? It is because the time and effort required to become UFE is unrealistic unless you use the Uridium tab. In addition, the process is immeasurably mundane. I do not think anyone finds clicking their left mouse button for hours at a time fun. I have been a member of this game since 2007. I have been around for a very long time and it breaks my heart to see what Dark Orbit has become. In the past half year I have asked the opinions of many players and combined it with my own experiences in order to solve this dilemma. Please thoroughly take the time to view things from our perspective and take into consideration what we have said. We only want what is best for Bigpoint and its player fan base.
     
  16. To be not Cynical but realistic.. Today many people NOT ALL.. want the " Short Cut " I salute MûяĐєяĐσĻĻš for the effort and Acheivement..

    BigPoint Should have a " Metal " for those that DO-nut spend, many of us that are now UFE.. started off that way.. Feels great, sounds even better.. however what also Bites the DO-g.. is how some DOwn Play that monumental Acheivement.. Kudos..

    Many of us from ALL Companys work with each other to provide an Atmosphere for Free Players so they can enjoy being Tight-Wads.. I have built many accounts for Free so I can better Advise others that Start this Fun Game.. It can be Both Frustrating and Relaxing.

    Even though we are Enemies in the Game of War between Companys.. We likewise recognize that our FUN comes from the Company that flys thru the Maps.. and most are Free Players.. aka " Bait " .. all the same.. Our Friends.

    Yes the game has Changed so much.. lets continue to be Adaptable
     
  17. relax

    relax User

    47 kappas=8 hercules. 11 kappas since the last design. hmm.. I am the luckiest player in here
     
  18. SauronL

    SauronL User

    48 kappa 6 hercs :) , 55 for all , lol
     
  19. A big NO from me, I have never spent money for anything other than my premium here and there and I'd say it's fine as it is. I'm not UFE yet but these items are meant to be rare and hard to get. Yeah it sucks when I've done 8 zeta in a row with no havok but when I do get it I'll be happy. Rewards for completing gates is enough you get lots of honor booty keys and junk. It would also be unfair to our fellow UFE. I get you want it to be fair and let it be easier to get the equipment but what will be fun if it's easy to get ship UFE quickly. Plus you don't have to be UFE to kill UFE I have level 1 BO2s and run 700k shields and I'm able to kill UFE. Work for what you want :(
     
  20. SPSAT99

    SPSAT99 User

    To be honest.....a fair game would be much worse than an unfair game.
     
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