[SC] Pets and - Honour

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  1. Guys, this is absolutely stupid the pets that give cumulative minus honour for popping them it's just absolutely stupid,

    FYI Im not complaining because it made me an outlaw, my honour is 161 mill (was 167 mill, i just dont want to waste more hard earned honour over something so stupid) im just complaining because the current system is MAD!! and I would like your thoughts on this matter please.

    17.06.2015 - 10:50[​IMG]You received -3,276,800 honor.
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    17.06.2015 - 10:50[​IMG]You received 30000 EP.
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    17.06.2015 - 10:50[​IMG]You shot down a friendly PET.
    That was because i miss locked a player's pet just as he was firing a kami! at a cube

    17.06.2015 - 09:01[​IMG]You received -1,638,400 honor.
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    17.06.2015 - 09:01[​IMG]You received 30000 EP.
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    17.06.2015 - 09:01[​IMG]You shot down a friendly PET.
    This was because the guy had his pet out and was sitting on the cube i double clicked on while he was cloaked!

    I have got -honour for miss locking a friendly player his pet attacked me and then my pet popped his pet before i could turn my comboguard off.

    I have had some 1v1s with fellow vru and won, I didn't mind losing honour because they were 1v1s but this constant loss of honour due to pets is a joke and a half.

    Now I know people are going to say why dont you just go in TA but you dont get a choice on who you fight and we all do 1v1s so please don't criticise me.

    This is also a problem, when your having a 1 v 1 with a friend,

    15.06.2015 - 23:14[​IMG]You destroyed the space pilot: FЯΣŊCĦ~ŦΔUŊŦΣЯ (VRU)
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    15.06.2015 - 23:14[​IMG]You received -204800 honor.
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    15.06.2015 - 23:14[​IMG]You received 11250 EP.
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    15.06.2015 - 23:14[​IMG]You shot down a friendly ship.
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    15.06.2015 - 23:14[​IMG]You received -102400 honor.
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    15.06.2015 - 23:14[​IMG]You received 28500 EP.
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    15.06.2015 - 23:14[​IMG]You shot down a friendly PET.
    You get hit Twice for neg honour

    I've helped a few players doing npc quests not been in the groups to make sure i don't get the rewards and accidently popped their pets and suffered for it, the pets are erratic and with a tiny bit of lag you can miss lock them so easily and with everyone running around with their pets at low hp its a going to pop every time you don't even get a chance to unlock before it blows.

    Why should we players lose so much Honour for these things?

    When I pop a player that is VRU and they dont have a war with me then i agree we should lose honour, this is something i have chosen to do and accept the consequences for. The pet Minus honour ability isn't right we dont get a choice if its an accident we can't unlock the pet.

    Can we not just simply put friendly players Pets to the same mechanism our own pets are on please where if we pop them we don't get punished for it or simply untie it from the Friendly players list and just give us -100 honour every time as this seems ample for the crime even if it's a mistake we wouldn't complain.

    Please can we get this sorted ASAP i may aswell not bother playing for the next week as i dont want to lose anymore !!!
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2015
  2. I agree the concept of losing so much honour for simple mislocks is ridiculous because often players have their pet low as they are kaming so end up being destroyed anyway. I think it should be reduced to a fixed amount of negative honour for popping pets as this would prevent pushing (as the negative honour was designed for) and situtations like this.

    Hope u get ur honour back mate
     
  3. Thanks Fire, I will, it will just cost me a mill uri and loads of gates!

    I do have neg honour that's helped cumulate up to that total from popping vru due to 1v1s or simply because they warring us clanless, i am responsible for that neg honour that is my choice. I choose to pop them. I do not choose to pop pets! and i certainly do not think anyone else out there who gets neg honour for popping pets by accident chooses it either.

    The neg honour system was introduced to ensure we kept to our enemies but what is the reason for the neg honour system on pets for? we havent popped a player, we certainly dont do it to push. if it is the "pushing" side why do we get rewards for them then? why can we not like i suggested in the first post simply get nothing for friendly pets?
     
  4. ramnik

    ramnik User

    Just war company and then kill them, problem solved
     
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  5. Pets here in the U.S. is considered family aka as another family member even though it is not human. So, poof the PET you deserve the neg Honor.
     
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  6. lol i own a pet too, but i dont get let it run around half dead in a pvp map in a pixellated game, what my point is it should be neg honour but a set amount only not this adding to the cumulative like i killed a player. I killed a pet not a player why is it deemed as one.
     
  7. Because a pet is like a battle buddy. It is doing work for you and acts like another player basically. If you are not premium, it takes uridium to bring it back to life, and that cost takes away from from you. It also takes time away as you must stop to bring it to life again and repair it. There are players that just run around popping pets just to get under a players skin, and this is really a deterrent to that.
     
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  8. i understand all this i really do but why does it need to cumulative alongside the popping of a player? look at my examples of how pets pop do you think this should happen really in this way for stupid mistakes? Im not trying to get out of losing my honour, its lost and if i email support its pointless. I just don't feel this system is correct for what the action is.

    OK lets look at this another way, why don't they make the pets the same as when they are in groups to external same company none warring players? so they can't be shot by us? if it works in a group why can it not just work as a rule for all?

    "you cannot shoot this pet" should flash up on your screen,

    when picking up blue cargo was an issue and so many outlaws were being created in noobs, DO implement the "Do not show cargo if not yours option" as default, to stop this occuring why can this type of system not be implemented for us?

    only flaw i see to this is the 1v1s we do on our own would always unless in war or opposite companies have to be petless to stop my example four from happening! its a small price to pay and would gladly pay it!
     
  9. Actually, that is an awesome idea. There is nothing more irritating than flying in a group and then discovering your pet was popped by a kami. Mine got popped about 8 times in 10 minutes, I was lucky to be looking for it. I normally ask my normal group not to use kami as it is annoying to me and my pet. But not everyone likes to listen. Some think it is funny. But in your defense and mine, it would be great if they made it so you can not kami pop a pet in your group. Already if you are in group you can not outright shoot a pet in group, or is it you just can't shoot your own pet. I miss-lock mine daily, silly thing stays in my way. Full group attack immunity like the other members of the group would be the right answer.
     
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  10. 17.06.2015 - 21:58[​IMG]You received -1638400 honor.
    I feel u man i shot a couple of those pets on space ball because of the cloaks.
    Look what happen , by the end of it i had - 3 milion honor less
    made me think to quit on the spot lol.
     
  11. The kami has a huge BLAST radius (((hp and -Honor))) :rolleyes::oops::eek:
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2015
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  12. I think its just as simple as this, dont allow a same company member to pop a pet unless at war with said player or its a enemy, it surely isn't rocket science!

    i really dont see why we players should bare the brunt of all this neg honour just for accidents it doesn't seem fair.

    Still no developer or moderator came to this thread and commented ... Hi we have taken your concerns on board... Nope...
     
    Last edited by moderator: Sep 1, 2015
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  13. No kidding.
    You received 20,000 EP.
    You received -1638400 honor points.
    You received -1,000 Credits.

    Hitac event, due to lagg as low FPS and slow lagg on game servers, I'm losing my rank... For wallet warriors, they probably don't care cause it's easy to get back...But I'll take ages to earn my 3m honor back, this is beyond a joke...What if I pop more now? I don't want to not take part in hitac so it decreases as that's alot of potential uri loss, but then again, is it worth losing basic major for? ://

    SUPPORT PLEASE NOTICE THIS THREAD, PETS SHOULD NOT ACCUMULATE MINUS HONOR
     
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  14. -Willows-

    -Willows- User

    Get a better computer :)
     
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  15. The problem is your Company is in the way of you using kami to attack the opposing Company - LOL :oops:

    Just stop using the kami :D
     
  16. Kami does not damage your company any longer dude..So this isn't killing our pets to steal my honor
     
  17. Losing **HONOR** via mislock of same company P.E.T's is a bloody joke the system needs looking, How about instead of losing HONOR you lose -350 uridium unless your have war within the company for popping a P.E.T... Just a thought because i hate losing honor like this id rather lose uri than my Honor
     
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  18. I hear you on that, I would prefer it to be just a set amount of neg honour or why cant popping a same company pet be the same as when you pop your own? it gives the warning but gdoesnt give you any reward or any negativity its just classed as destroyed

    Could a MOD Move this thread to the suggestions side of the forum pls? and maybe turn this into a vote?
     
    Last edited by moderator: Sep 1, 2015
  19. Agreed ĐΛRKHØRSΞ™ its got to change because it does wind up players and stop them from playing because of the fact of the honor loss
     
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  20. Hopefully a mod can get this looked at and sent a little higher to the developers