Halloween Event 2015 - Feedback Thread

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  1. I think you guys should rework the Bat formation ASAP. Drill costs 150k and Bat 125k. Drill deals 20% more damage Bat deals 8% more damage.
    You should change the damage of bat to something like 30-50% so it would be special thing again :) Now there is absolutely no point in buying it even though it should be special "once-a-year" offer. In the current state that formation is pretty useless.
     
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  2. The bat gives 8% dmg and 8% EP while the drill just gives 20% dmg
     
  3. That 8% damage doesn't matter. Only use for it now is, when alien is just falling down or when completing gate. The fact is, that it's value is greatly lower than before, because of Drills overwhelming power compared to Bat.
     
  4. Hello.

    which description of Demon design is true?
    The one in FAQ:
    If you have 10 drones equipped with the Demon drone design, you benefit from 10% extra rocket damage and -5% Rocket cooldown.

    Or second one in shop:
    This drone design will give you 1% bonus to Rocket damage. If all 10 drones are equipped with Demon designs, you‘ll also get an extra 5% to your rocket damage and a 5% rocket cooldown reduction.


    So if I'll have all 10 drones with demon designs, will I have 10% or 15% bonus dmg of rockets?

    Thank you for answer.
     
  5. I came up with solution, witch wouldn't change gate's difficulty level, but would make it bit reasonable for those who have difficulties to complete it in time, so that next gate would be open after reasonable time.


    Simple... Make it so that next gate will be open 23 hours after you have started first wave. If gate is not completed in this time, next start will pass on until gate is finished.
     
  6. holy cow im ufe and gate totally sucks waste of ammo and time. make it easier so weaker player can attempt it. 20 ubk hahahah come on devs even you cant do that...

    unimpressed with gate and updates. please fix older problems before entering more
     
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  7. chixonator

    chixonator User

    The UBK are nerfed there not even as strong as BK.

    As i said before, i would have no problem with this gate if it had a little reward at the end, and was a permanent gate, then the weaker players could work on it pieces at a time, and we would get maybe something like 100k x4 - 20k rsb, which doesnt cover what you use if you use x4 and rsb through the gate but it stocks us back up a bit, and would make more players do it since they didnt lose as much ammo
     
  8. Insanely ridiculous.
     
  9. u dont need x4 and rsb to do the gate thats people who only want to do it fast
     
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  10. Well ufe can complete this gate its easy for them.
    But what about Fe players ? who just have all lf-3 bo2 and diamond formation.
    they can complete it ?
    i think they will need 2-3 days to complete whole gate with x1 x2
    and if u thinking about x4. then how fe can have so much x4.
    ...............
    now lets talk about event boxes.
    only Gg spins, uris , eco rockets , MCB-50 , MCB-25 , SAB-50 , PLD-8 rockets , Repair credits , fireworks , mines.
    I think only we geting rockets , repair credits , fireworks from tihs event boxes.
    Not anything special in this event boxes. ( Even not ubr-100 )
    like helix boxes : zeus parts
    uba expo : hanger hall
    pet event : pet gears
    ...............
    Reduce gate difficulty.
    Add somthing good in event boxes.
    and if you going to say your mod have completed this gate. then remember i am talking about fe players. your mods are ufe.
    we must earn profit from this gate. and i think we just geting low profit and wasting more ammos.
    i hope you understand what i want to say.

    Thanks you.
    :)
     
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  11. Lilljohn

    Lilljohn User

    And what's wrong with taking a few days to complete it? It's not like there's a big reward at the end you're missing out on. I used only x1 apart from a few short Waves I spent 10k uri Worth of JOB ammo on, I see it as a profit of 80k uri. It's about time there is a gate that is challenging even for maxed players. If you want to do easy gates there are quite a few to choose from that give better rewards.

    In addition i would like to say that it would've been nice if the aliens you shoot down in the gate counted towards missions as in the Hades gate, that's my only complaint about the gate.
     
  12. Well finally completed this at 6am this morning, slapped a full 45 lf4 on my ship/pet in the end, still took so long to complete the later levels without using pet kamikaze (too often as am not premium) x3 an x4 ammo that I would say expecting any player to complete the last few waves is ridiculous to the point of being unhealthy and I really do mean that. Break up the waves so you can take a break please! A break is recommended when operating any pc for more than a couple of hours and this gate simply doesn't give the opportunity to do so without dying which eventually was my only method to escape to the loo etc.

    Whoever thought of those last waves from 59 onward should actually try completing this themselves in one sitting with x1 an x2 ammo as words cannot describe the tedium required to complete with anything less than x3 sepped/boosted and other uber ammo which is currently absent from any of the bonus boxes, even then if you aren't fully loaded with lf4's this will still take many hours to complete.

    Can any one please tell me if I missed the chance to warp out after wave 59 as I don't recall there being the opportunity to do so?

    If this opportunity was absent then I would very much urge the dev team to at least give pple the opportunity to take a break between some of these waves for the sake of a players health and sanity, sitting and playing DO for the length of time required to complete waves 59 to 70 is simply physically unhealthy in my opinion.

    All said and done only a small percentage of players who spend large amounts will be able or inclined to complete this gate more than once if at all as few players have the huge amounts of x3 an x4 ammo required to complete in less than 8 hours game play.

    Lets look at one of the 20x UBK waves, larger hp, dmg, range and shield than a regular BK an only 102 uri reward is somewhat confusing as you can therefore make as much uri with similar or less time/risk in regular uppers maps and better rewards in 4-5 map. Likewise the 20 uber sibs on the last wave, nothing more than a time/ammo/resource sink with better rewards for the same time/ammo inputs in other maps.

    Overall I would say this gate needs more polish and consideration to the persons actually trying to complete without using half a mill x3 an x4 ammo or being sat at a desk continuously for 8 hours+ to complete, some of the below may well be very easy to implement.

    1: Break up the waves and allow players to port out between the larger waves for a break before we all get repetitive strain injury and carpal tunnel syndrome.
    2: Consider splitting the gate as is into 3-4 levels: Easy, Medium and Hard, possibly also Insane level too, this would also allow more control of risk/reward dynamics along with giving lower level players the satisfaction/rewards/title/achievement of completing the lower levels.
    3: Consider expanding this into a group gate along similar lines to the hades gate, rework rewards to suit after extensive testing.
    4: Consider how the current dynamics of the 20 hour rule are affecting lower level players etc, splitting into 4 difficulty levels would address this a little, ensure lower level players can at least complete easy and medium settings with basic non UFE accounts as frustration may lead lower level players to leave the game due to frustration.
    5: Consider providing some ammo with a log in bonus when you run this event gate as the lower level players will need it and it would give them the chance to attain those few extra levels in said gate, a similar bonus at the end of every difficulty level would make some of the higher waves more playable for lower level players.
    6: Keep job ammo available in the store for the duration so we can purchase if required.
    7: Please do consider lower level player accessibility to game events and nurture them a little, they may well be tomorrows UFE players and JPA winners, any method of excluding lower players from events or their failure in them will make them more inclined to quit. Inversely, success in similar gates/events at medium and hard levels and then failure at insane level may incline players to play/spend more, as is there is only failure at later levels with a few drone designs to mitigate this beforehand, at least consider a players success at easy to hard levels will leave players less frustrated should they fail at insane difficulty.
    8: Ensure the demon drone cargo boxes are visible, am not sure if I missed one as they aren't that easy to distinguish especially when I have bright winter sun on my monitor.
    9: 10 hours + grinding is not fun especially with so few options to take a break and when it is forced into a 20 hours time frame.

    As is I may have another crack at completing this one if I can find some decent ammo to speed things up a little, if not I will likely bash the lower waves and attempt to get a full set of demon drones as they are very nice flair items along with the rest of the new designs. Were it not for the fact I have full lf4 and a boatload of sepped lasers then I would be stuck at the lower levels and likely feeling frustrated in various ways. Overall I would say the only saving grace for this event is the new drone designs, the rest simply needs a little more polish and consideration for lower level players as they are very important to the longevity of the game imo. I was also looking forwards to a little boxing and buying a doubler for this event, as is the current items in the event boxes leave me disinclined to purchase unlike the pet event where I feel that my box doubler was a good value purchase for the two weeks duration.

    TLDR: Good effort, more polish, thought and consideration for lower level players required with regards to difficulty and general event gate dynamics, better ammo in boxes or log in bonus to help free players take part in the gate.
     
  13. D-Cruiser

    D-Cruiser User

    I agree!
    People needs to pee! This gate is not peeing friendly!
     
  14. Wow... thats a god text :) I 100% agree. I liked part 3. probably most, since Hades is The best gate so far. Only gate that requires right tactic, and good co operation between players. That's a gate that offers right kind of entertainment and challenge. All in all 9 very good points made. :)
     
  15. i think you guys are confused for the gate rewards, you get the reward for completing the mission, and the gate is the mission
    amco
     
  16. The gate is too unbalanced, it gives an advantage to players who dont need it, the drone designs are useless, minus the demon, and are really stupid considering you dont even get colors, and the demon designs would really only give an advantage to those of us who arent UFE and dont do 120k x4 dmg, which is hilarious considering that is what you would have to be to actually complete the gate in time to get enough designs to have a worthwhile bonus. Not to mention the quests. literally stupid, just, ugh, there is no other word for them. I like the idea, but i also think you could have implemented the same idea, with the same limits as the pet event, as in there are two different levels of the gate. As an FE goli, and a highschool AP student, who also happens to be below the poverty line, i dont have time, resources, or the patience to spend an entire day, wasting credits and uri on ammunition, with no return, for 1 design, that grants 1 % rocket bonus. just to go do it all over again. Everybody going "well its easy, just use x-4 and moth, and be UFE, and be the white leader of the first world, and know how to hack, and have bill gates leave his fortune to you," and all that other bull, try not being UFE, and only being able to spend a max of 4 hours a day on this game. now dont get me wrong, i understand, the more you play, the more you get, but this gate doesnt follow that, everybody i have talked to on east 2, has lost profit, and time. and another thing, the demon box, literally the stupidest idea here, you have to go on the forum, click on the event faq, go to the gate portion (which provides absolutely no info on the gate) and read, verbatim, that each different map has a demon box, and then deduce logically, that it probably isnt the shiniest thing in the world, and will most likely show up after you kill one thing, before a swarm of uber npcs kill you. found this out half way through the gate, and dont really care, since all i lost was a bunch of aesthetic designs, that really arent that pleasing considering they are all silver. so yeah, you lost on this one DO, but you can still fix, like you did the parasite tide, and P.E.T. invasion, and literally everyother event youve ever had. [removed]
     
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  17. if you happen to be in the top 10....
     
  18. souleater1

    souleater1 User

    I only have one problem with the gate that it's only geared towards the higher level pilots and not an easier gate for the newer pilots to complete, who don't have Lf4's and a lot of ammo and sep to spare.
     
  19. i have goli, no single lf4, no power up lf3 and prometid on lasers, 8 iris and im at wave 40, i just run out of x2,x3 and x4 so, with x1 the ubber sibelons will take like 45 minutes each to kill, or 30, imagine at wave 47 or 70! as everybody told, this gate is for people that do gg every week, that spend cash on the game, and has kami lvl 3, i have kami lvl 1 and its useless on uber mobs, i will stop here i cant do it, 30 mins for every uber sibelon, and im not talking about ubber k or ubber lord, its too hard, please low the hp and shield of aliens by half or that they have 1/4 , because this is soo hard
     
  20. Bakjam

    Bakjam User

    Just try to get as far as possible without using more than 25k-50K x4, then just die like a 100 times XD and start over for the designs, the mission isn't worth completing anyway, unless you really want the title
     
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