[SC] Wheel formation needs buffing

I got my wheel formation for 120k uri on a discount and I play free so no rebate, premium, nor buying uri. It's basically useless in combat and so I can't pvp, npc, or pally with it. All I can do is box and spaceball. It's only used on pusat,vengi, and spear. All 3 of these already have terrible defense and especially terrible hp. Personally I use spearhead for spaceball because it has ulticloak. Problem is I have no shields and just 150k hp. Once I'm locked onto, I'm dead. The only way to boost up spear hp is get full hercs or ship hull from pilot bio. I maxed out ship hull and I'm still 150k hp which is clearly not enough to escape. Needing full hercs to play spaceball effectively is just ridiculous and full hercs would only give me 30k more hp which is less than the damage of a ufe laser shot. People can pop me in like 3-7 shots and even less if they are suicide. Even though I am faster, I'm not that much faster. If a goliath and me run the same direction, he most likely will get more than 10 shots on me before i escape. And that's just goliath; a pusat, vengi, or surgeon or even another spear would have even more shots. That's not even considering if they use slow down rockets or parasite ammo or even ice rockets. I have to give up so much for only a meager 5% speed. Either allow shields or give like 10% speed with something like -90% damage, or the formation is trash.

 

wheels best use is for chasing escaping enemies or for escaping quick yourself , dodge one way then the next quick emp and hit wheel till u have a lead and switch back to preserve shields. well that all I use it for .

 

Uhhh no thanks. Learn how and when to use it instead of asking for a buff. The sword is only as strong as the wielder, no? If its causing more issues than helping then guess what, don't use it. Voila

 

what do u mean by doge one way

ok fine then how am i supposed to use it in spaceball

 

The Wheel formation, unfortunately, is not created to be globally best for everything. It is not like the Hearth, so you can use it everywhere.

Personally, I have never used it, but I think you should read this again:

 

That solution does not address the issue. He's assuming that once I escape range with wheel, I can switch to something else. The problem is I haven't escaped range with wheel. If I could then this problem wouldn't have existed in the first place and I wouldn't need to switch to something else.

 

Well, it depends on the situation. If you didn't escaped, use it for a bit longer. Because of some in game situations, you can't say: "hey, this needs to be changed to fit this situation". Every formation fits in different situation and styles, you need to make the right decisions mate

 

maybe i might try having shields until i ulticloak then activate wheel, collect cargo, wheel away from there, then diamond back up my shield. Does that sound practical?

 

I told you above, I am honest and have never used that formation. If I had that formation, I would make sure on my speed config to always have some shields left, so I can switch to it and just run away fast, without spending too much time on it. What I would do is just fast escape, and switching back to Diamond or any other formation as soon as I make some distance. Slow mines are your friend here, use them (assuming we talk about escaping here, not chasing someone down)

EDIT:
I will share with you and others a personal experience how I manage to escape faster enemies than me, usually when boxing. When enemy attacks you, try to bait them by running straight in one direction. Couple of seconds after, change the direction of running immediately (mostly try to go the opposite way, do some maneuvers). The same moment you change the running direction on opposite way, lay down a slow mine and change to Wheel immediately. You need to be fast here, and I guarantee that you will escape in 90% of the times someone chases you down

 

Honestly it sounds a lot more practical then your idea to buff it. That's pretty much what I do if you can't manage how formations work don't use em. If you can't escape with wheel what's your point, other people have access to it too nothing has changed. You buff it you're not buffing just yours, you realize that, no?

 

yeah but the 90% damage reduction would probably also make it survivable. I honestly don't use formations except moth for pvp. I don't really switch formations until i switch tasks like switching from npcs(diamond/X) to players(moth) or to boxing(wheel). btw 'm not sure why those that thought dome formation should be buffed are not receiving the same criticism i'm receiving.

I've done that in my begginer days when I got chased when I was in goliXD. I could try that provided my spear could survive the switch in directions

 

I think that the Spear can handle it, if you have maxed out the Shield mechanics. Give it a try, if I can survive like this in a Vengeance with not good pilot tree, I think you can do it too

 

change direction quick throws the nmy off sometimes , tbh only real use for wheel is escaping or catching someone theres no reason to stick it on when boxing as it leaves u vulnerable if nmy find you ... having wheel on a fast ship will obviously help a lot as my top speed on wheels 618

 

No to this idea, the only formation that really needs to be buffed would be the dome formation, we need more rocket damage!

 

Truedat. Also the negative damage doesn't matter if they just need to run so no.... It's a fighting game not a ohcrapsoneoneiscomingtimetoruneverytimeitsnotinmyfavor game

 

Wheel is the most frustrating thing when ufe pusats use it to escape on 10k hp. But if you must use it i'd recommend a config with full speed and then full shields on your drones as you'll need to withstand several hits until you're out of range. When you see an enemy switch to wheel so you still have shield rather than having it on all the time.

 

chrome, wont be a problem anymore with icys