[SC] Why I am leaving DO (Honor, onesidedness)

Hey, just wanted to share some thoughts about DO which make the game unplayable.
all the nonsense like bots, cheats, too expensive, grindy, boring. all thats been done better then I could ever do it. I do have one thought though:

I play on GA3 where every map is controlled by 150 UFE players SOS,EA and SF clan. all of them are allied and have dozens of UFE ships in all 3 companies.

The game on GA3 has become unilateral. There is no wars, no competition, and simply nothing to do when 150 ships will mow you down. I still get 10 kills for every time I die, mostly because i shoot down these 3 clans bots in the battle maps. they find out, get mad, send 5-10 UFE ships after me. I log off, stop playing for 5-10 days and never ever spend money on the game. What is the point? I play other games that deserve my cash now.

The best thing BP could do is combat the tendency for the game to pile up into a one sided contest. Make clans max out at 10 members. Make alliances penalize honour BADLY. Encourage WAR (and therefore spending money to win them) Make resources from boxing go down if your clan + alliance rank is too high. Really devs, you need to give the incentive to cause two sided battles to happen that are for the most part fair or give clans of 3-4 people like my own, 7-10000 honor every time I kill one of these 150 people clan members and give them 100 honor for the same thing. encouraging players to split up and battle constantly is not only MORE FUN, its better for the companies pocketbook.

Anyway, I dont really play and haven't spent money in a year aside from an occasional premium on event weeks, it boggles my mind that I used to spend $400 USD a month on this game for years and watch the devs who can't code and the execs who cant think, drive the game into the abyss!

Also my clan mate who has quit the game and can't bear to play the game anymore said "where is the honour in ganging up on a player 150 to 1? isn't it 150 times more honourable to shoot down a ship that has 150 UFE fleet backing him?" lol if only the real world was more like this!

 

Im a free to play and im still here....I think you should reconsider

 

we don't lose money

 

The question of MultiCompany Clans (MCC's) and Cross Company alliances has been mentioned many times (notably by G-R-U-M-P-Y ...) and unfortunately bigsteve78, to date at least, I haven't seen any big moves toward the competitive honour that you/we think would restore some balance and interest from those that are not UFE and ganging up , whilst the bullies are playing other games (unless there is a profitable Event that they can dominate and maintain their rank without having to play everyday) ...
I hope that your comment will be heard but I wont be holding my breath...

 

The quickest and best fix is to not allow cross company allies, or naps... Also if you help an enemy shoot down a fellow company member then you should loose honor. Just like when I smartbomb in a group battle and I end up with a clan members kill while in outfit... (boogles the mind everytime I here my member complain that I shot him down while in outfit).

Honestly this could and should be an easy fix that would get peeps excited to play again. MultiCompany clans should just not be allowed period...

 

yah dudes I know, it drives me crazy! there just are not enough players to make a competitive clan and ganging up is just not healthy for the main point of the game. I haven't logged in significantly for a year now, the game is so so boring and a complete zero in terms of fun. hope we can get these issues fix and get back to the days of 2009 when the game was about huge, mostly two sided wars.

 

Can't stand this game either. I can barely log in for 10 minutes before getting so bored that I want to drive a pencil through my eye. back in the day there used to be 300 ships battling in a big zone now its a huge empty space dominated by 1 clan. Best thing BP could do is encourage fighting again, I'm not sure who the genius Rick Dekard is, but how can he not understand that suffocating players for ammo and uri makes them just not want to play? Boxes should give double what they do now, so that huge wars can happen again. Trust me Rick Deckard, if I can farm box for 3 hours and get 50-60k uri and a lot of ammo I will shoot a lot and play a lot more because i dont HAVE to spend money to play. but then the wars will be so addictive that I want to spend money. Im not sure why this simple dynamic idea is so hard to understand. My boy unstoppable, a popular player who never logs on anymore on GA3 says "I have so much ammo to shoot but I am so bored I don.t even want to shoot it" for disclosure, I am the "clan mate who quit the game" in OP.

 

This is the best idea I have heard in a long time bro. Making the general strategize war so they can get to the other general is awesome. imagine if you are a private and kill a colonel and you get big URI, ammo and boosts in honor exp and surprises. that would be FUN for new players and more stress and strategy for the big players. aka balance

 

For those that are interested and may not have been involved with the G-R-U-M-P-Y thread... http://www.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/board/threads/multi-company-clans-must-end.96252/
have a read through and you will see what I mean...

as you will see there was a lot of interest back then on both sides of the discussion and it was pointed out that you cannot stop NAPs or even 'informal' Alliances between friends.. the point is put quite succinctly by G-R-U-M-P-Y and arguements and suggestions made as to possible solutions... repeated here in this Thread more than a year later.. It can be stopped on a formal level if the GMs limit Clans to OWN Co only and stop anything which makes those which want to smother the competitiveness of the game from dominating using their current methods...

 

Good riddance I can say...

 

Please be more specific...

to what?

 

I always thought that the GROUP prevented you from attacking another member, that was why the enemy always tried to group up if not being OFFENSIVE in your maps just trying to do quests and such. Guess this is another change that was not made public.

I have been limited to doing Skylab Transfers and some event items (not many) since I have gone backwards in strength (can't locate LF-4, Zeus parts even on special days with special keys) got FE and Bio'd but unable to get UFE as I am one of the UNLUCKY ones that never finds the correct booty chest or get the chance reward from the gates.

The Family clan, that got me started in 2010, with their 7 members have all QUIT as they do not seem to be progressing in the game anymore either. The LEADER used to be able to survive a battle to get to portal but now he can't even do that so the entire family are playing other interplanetary games. There are some saying they are boxing what you say you want to see but I am so concerned about the FALSE BOT SELECTION SYSTEM that I do not even collect them anymore (I let my PET do it) so I can not ever be accused of being a BOTTER. WARS are never a good thing to have we are one company and we should support each other, protecting our maps from the enemy is more important than the WARS and thus the wars are the reason for the MULTIPLE company clans which allow the enemy to have friendly SPIES to guide an enemy towards a target.

This is what the original plan was for the game (before all the Same Company Wars became so much fun) attack the enemy and prevent them from advancing in the game (be the strongest company of the 3), but it seems this has gone by the wayside and now it is every player against the other. D O has forgotten the ROOTS of the game and is not helping to return to them either.

The NAP's are fine as friendships are important, the Multi Company Clan is a major mistake, the attacking of the SAME Company (friendly) ship should be prevented, this includes the accidental "mis-lock". So many other SPACE games do not allow this and they are also PvP games so why should it not be part of D O? If you have someone who wants to be mouthy against the Company then they can be kicked (with good reason e.g. USA West Bermuda Cedar of MMO thinks he is de BOSS and hated by all MMO players, but won't leave the company) from the Company and forced to Plead their case to join another Company. This would be a method of ridding the companies of any spies that might be in the ranks and again return balance to the Maps and the game, it also is a way to get rid of bad seeds. The only way to change companies is to REQUEST a change and pledging allegiance to the new company and subject to approval of the company General. Thus making the RANK an obligation not a placard and failure to perform as such would cause demotion not exploiting a glitch to boot the General out of position. This would not prevent the creation of a NEW account in a NEW Company but once you are proven to be an anti-Company player you can be put into limbo awaiting approval of New Company leaders to accept you. Again the kicking has to be DOCUMENTED and SUBSTANTIATED to be allowed (not I do not like you so I am going to KICK you).

 

Hades you have missed the point Sherlock made here. MCC is not the problem with the game, the problem is with incentives. The bounty system we are advocating for rewards newbs massively to team up into groups and single out generals and colonels. Basically if you are on top in a MCC clan, you had better watch out because 7-10 ships are going to de-cloak on you firing ice missles and slow missles to get big rewards from your corpse. Generals however should get nothing except wasted ammo UNLESS they hunt generals where they to can enjoy big rewards. I mean would it really hurt BP to drop 10k whites and 5k uri to 10 newbs who pop a general? 1k whites and 500 rsb is a single UFE fight for me. Myself and Sherlock are senior players, there is nothing left for us in the game except to war and we cant war because the top 150 UFE's have nap and will instantaneously support each other. Domination mentality (KILL clan) in GRUMPYS thread is the reason why DO has died a terrible death, there must be a reason for the dominators to be scared. If 50-60 lower ranks always had them on target 24/7 ready to pounce on them with 20% health it would balance the game out big time. I would like to see KILL clan operate when 100's of ships are chasing them around in groups because they know there is a massive group reward and huge honor reward for mowing them down. The bigger the jackpot reward for killing high ranks, the more players will return to get huge boosts for their ships (and eventually become targets themselves!)

 

Thanks Straphe, This is what I was trying to say. Invoking this system would be a huge problem for me because I am high ranking and newbs would be chasing me all day. But even so, It would bring me back to the game spending money because all the other generals and colonels would be running away from big groups of angry newbs wanting their blood. The rewards should be MASSIVE for killing me, because its going to take 6 newbs with slows and icy missles to take me out. Spending $400-$800 a month on DO used to be nothing to me, I can afford it and not even bat an eye, but I stopped my premium and subs for good this month until I see BP start to think about the game. limit clans to 12 people max, limit alliances by punishing uri and honor badly, invoke lots and lots of wars between groups of 10-12 ships, and most importantly, reward low rank outfits MASSIVELY who team up to snipe the big boys and give a nod to generals with HUGE rewards who go after their peers (instead of napping and creating 150 ship clans that can never be touched)

 

It looks good on paper but with empty maps and the current system of only the "red lock" person/group gets the rewards you will never get enough newbs together to be able to do this. HECK trying to get a group together to do quests is like pulling teeth out of a mouse. Part of the reason for the 50 count clan was because D O knew not everyone would be on at the same time, and would allow the numbers you are talking about to be on at one time to help each other out.

This game has gone too far chasing players away and is breathing its dieing gasps now. SHOOT they even advertise for their competing SPACE GAMES on the Log Out Page. The attacks on same (friendly) company ships is NOT ALLOWED in most other PvP space games and should never have been allowed here. Get an enemy SPY in your company and watch them direct the enemy to you, just because they want to help their friends (their main account is in their clan) PUSH their account to the top. The fact that a person can have 25 or more accounts on the same server in the same company goes to show how out of control the game has become. But then it is because of GREED on D O's part that allows this to happen.

Well the title says it best and these are the reasons I am not active in the game at this time.

 

yeah i dont like clans filled with ufes and multi company so they kill even clanless ones , anyways im in one of them . DO should make more events where are companies against each other.

 

But sorry to hear about how you feel... Maybe it is time for you to take a break from the game, when the game starts getting to you take a few weeks off. That's what I do. when I don't play Darkorbit I just sep up the ship during the time I am not playing on the account... I understand just how you feel, not to mention all the problems with-in the game there is hackers, botters, bullies, an entire world of crap with in Darkorbit almost like real life ja ja ja. Of course when you play this game that is something that a player can deal with or Not.
He is what happen to me long ago... assumption

 

Yeah, but how long do you just do transfers to the ship from Skylab? I have been doing it since July and trying to enjoy events but with all the other in-game crud do not even enjoy them. The newest crud (having to use enemy locator to find 1 Urid targets is really crud) where the Streuners just sit in one place ignoring you as a target and the StreuneRs attacking with rockets first (heck used to BOX in 3-8 because you were not attacked by the trash, you were followed but that was all) now you have to shoot everything you see or eventually be popped by a crud NPC, not to mention the Boss StreuneR having the Direction Changing Beam, just more reason to let D O DIE in the coffin it is nailing together.

This is not even mentioning that the people who designed the January Advent Calendar could not label the doors with the dates to coincide with the door (like their error message states "The day's date must match the number on the calendar door") the mods have to generate a conversion chart instead, this assuming the KID wanting the freebies knows where to look in the forums for the chart. OR worse yet you have to pay attention to an "UNOFFICIAL" thread to see what is OFFICIALLY going on in the game as the POWERS TO BE do not want to post anything about the upcoming Events/Changes/Activities in the forums (YES the usual weekly/monthly stuff can be found in the Calendar {if you know about this}) but things like the Birthday/X-mas stuff was not mentioned, Winterfest was a link to last years post, and has anyone seen anything about the HITAC event that the Advent Calendar is tied to (except "Unofficially")?

 

No need to be sorry. DO should be sorry, my clan was pumping 3-4k a month into the game and now its $0. Would still be happily putting money in if they just took steps to fix the game. Admin should probably close the thread now, my idea is a good one, but no players even play any-more anyway so who cares.

 

I am maxed out there is nothing more I can do to upgrade this ship or ships I need... I am sure Okapi32 will put a stupid comment on this like now you need to learn how to pilot it. I don't spend money on this game no more only for premium and Advantage pks

But that is not the case. I have asked many times for them to put petrol's on maps they don't do it, cause they know what's going on in this game. But this is their game and they can run it how they want.... as you see many players are dropping out from game sure they can do this and do that, but as long as they don't have Staff on maps this game will continue on a down slide.