[SC] Pet customization

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  1. *Rob9614*

    *Rob9614* User

    I would love to say i could see the reasons to bring this out, but i struggle to see any benefits.
    I thought now the aim was to bring players back to the game, yet it still seems items are being added for the price of money, not even Uridium, and have no benefits to players.

    Creating new items like this that has no benefits just shows that youre only going for money, if you wanted to brighten up the game you could of given out missions where you could collect parts to create a new coloured pet. This just seems daft to me
     
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  2. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    They are not adding cosmetic pets into the game thinking this is the update to bring in thousand of players to each server, neither have they ever implied that with any of the cosmetic updates.
    They are capable of working on multiple things at once - e.g the artist aren't going to be much help with activity issues, they can't draw up more players.

    Players have been asking for cosmetic changes for years. Other games have them and they are extremely successful. They do not add in huge amount of content but equally they do not mess up the power balance of the game, if you don't think they are worth it then you are no worse off for not getting them. It's really not a bad thing.


    Would you rather they delete all the cosmetic options and then have to look for money by adding in things that only add power to the game?
    A new PET design with 30% more damage that needs 45 blueprints that have a 25% chance to drop from a new GG that has 120 parts to it? That's the sort of update we would have gotten a few years back.

    So again, no, cosmetic pets aren't the update which fixes activity on servers - neither is it being hailed as the fix for that. Them making money through cosmetic items instead of very expensive damage updates is a very, very good change.
     
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  3. Hi :)

    I think you're both right. It is true that Bigpoint is a company and they needs to earn money so it's quite normal they sell articles.
    But I think it would be better to have some alternatives in credits for each category of items. (for exemple: drone design, pet design, ship design, ...)
    I don't think that would be a loss for Bigpoint because these designs would be more for beginners. (The big players prefer the "upmarket", as with the design of goliath "Jade" which is only used by beginners)
     
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  4. *Rob9614*

    *Rob9614* User

    Cant remember saying about them being in a gate costing uri?:/
    You say players have been asking for cosmetic designs for years, well i must be missing something because GB2 has barely any players that actually use the cosmetic drones as you know.
    And correct artists cant draw up players Owning, but whats more important, a few designs or brining the game back to life, You should know by now that companies need people to survive, and as servers are getting emptier and emptier maybe they should think about that.

    If i was bothered about different colour drones theres plenty of Clone servers that have that, its not a urgent thing, and you say they are capable on working on more than one thing at a time, correct , but if you know about designing a game they you should know it doesn't take to long to change colours.

    You said yourself last night owning, you don't play the game anymore and youre not really interested until something big comes alone .

    And owning, its only a discussion as said it was my opinion so you don't need to go through everything i said and try make it look bad, thanks.
     
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  5. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Of course its just your opinion but it doesn't mean to say that it can't be flawed. You implying that DO thought the goal of a cosmetic update is somehow linked in anyway to fixing player populations is just plain wrong.

    They are not about to sit for 6 months adding zero things to the game, then players will complain that they have abandoned the game. Unless a dev team is very small, they never only work on one thing at a time, no matter which game it is by whatever company.

    Equally I wrote my opinion and it disagreed with you, a discussion doesn't have to be a one way street where everyone has to agree with whatever the OP wrote ...

    You don't care about the cosmetic stuff then don't buy it, as I said you are no worse off and this wasn't hyped up as the update of the year so I don't know why you seem to think it should have some huge impact on the game :/
    You can go in chat now and see that plenty of people have bought them and are happy with what they got.
     
  6. *Rob9614*

    *Rob9614* User

    I never said about it being the fixture of the lack of players, i simply said in my opinion i think it would of been a smarter move to add something that might draw players back.

    The discussion isnt about disagreeing with someone's post, its about discussing what they think about the pet designs its self.
    If everyone was just arguing on here then whats the point of having this here? Part of the reasons i created it is so devs can see peoples opinions and in the future they can add or change things to it.

    Sorry cant remember saying it was a great impact on the game, just did it so people could write about it.

    Try not to turn this into a rant about my opinion Owning, id rather not have the thread closed because of it:)
     
  7. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Saying it would be "smarter move to add something that might draw players back." implies that a cosmetic update like this is the same amount of effort and time as either finding the perfect way to merge server or create a new cross-sever system.
    Come on now, surely you don't think the scale of those updates is even comparable? The difference is huge.

    Yes, a discussion can be about disagreeing with the OP's opinion if the person thinks its wrong.
    Just because you made the post doesn't mean you are immune to people disagreeing with what you wrote ... there is no discussion if people weren't allowed to disagree with what the first person said, it would just be "Yes, that's right" - how is that a discussion??
     
  8. *Rob9614*

    *Rob9614* User

    An implication is a self opinion of a thought. I never once stated that this was the BIG THING to bring all the players back and save the game whoopp..

    I never said about being immune to peoples thought's, its normally common decency not to slate everything one person posted.

    and 'A new PET design with 30% more damage that needs 45 blueprints that have a 25% chance to drop from a new GG that has 120 parts to it? That's the sort of update we would have gotten a few years back.' you made it seem like i suggested that to be an idea, which is completely wrong, i talked about missions to collect parts, not spending millions of uridium for a simple pet design.

    Thank you for your opinion owning:)
     
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  9. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Well I am sorry you feel so hard done by, if you want a "discussion" where nobody is allowed to go against the narrative you wrote then maybe you should start a blog and turn off the comments section.

    No problem mate, it was a pleasure to read yours.
     
  10. SauronL

    SauronL User

    Everything in this game is for money which makes me sad. They said in devs blog couple months back that they gonna try to make this game more free-to-play and they will try to bring more players. I think, that people want to enjoy their gameplay and they want to look good too.

    With updates like that, i mean, drone customizations and pet lookz that are for $ as usual, were still not getting anywhere
    Adding Darkorbit motto :D

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  11. Bigpoint is a company so they must earn money with items (except if you want to have ads anywhere on the game)

    For another game:

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    For this game, nobody says "Ah, it's commercial, they take us for idiots, this is outrageous"

    If you want a totally free game you can play hopscotch or marbles ..
     
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  12. SauronL

    SauronL User

    Im not taking your opinion from you, if you rather pay, do it :) , but i do not want to pay for everythign whats new .
     
  13. Sorry if I was a little tough ^^ but it's not my opinion, it's just the truth, you can't have a totally free game, it's impossible (a company have to earn money)

    If you don't want to pay the news items you can ^^
     
  14. *Rob9614*

    *Rob9614* User

    Adverts on pages^^ ;)
     
  15. SauronL

    SauronL User

    [inappropriate & not necessary]

    BP already gettin tons of money for rebate doubler prem and MHHs, making all pet designs for $ just gonna dissapoint more players and more will leave.

    Maybe you didnt know this but if you want to attract more players its going to be expensive. If they would want more players they would have to advertise a lot and that would probably ruin all their incomes.

    I like that they work on this game, but not everything must be for $.

    Im talking about all those noobies or kids who are not able to pay that and maybe also that every new thing they added for last year was for $ dissapoints me too.

    btw im going to buy one design too :oops: but not everything must be for $
     
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  16. £8 for a few new skins isn't bad, ive got em, now can switch colours with my designs, maybe should have skins with bonuses, yhatd be cool
     
  17. *Rob9614*

    *Rob9614* User

    I think a aegis design for a pet would be good, if it had a little rep pod that repped even 5k hp every second for 10 seconds but costs pet fuel i think it would be useful for people on cubes
     
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  18. Not at all, if you want to see the post where I say the same thing:

    http://fr.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/bo...eneral-juillet-2015.108421/page-9#post-907220
    http://fr.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/bo...pour-l-event-kuiper.110738/page-2#post-940620
    http://fr.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/bo...pour-l-event-kuiper.110738/page-2#post-940634
    http://fr.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/board/threads/clos-levenement-mascarade.113312/#post-958626
    ...


    When you go into a fun fair, do you say "oh it's too commercial here ! We are obliged to pay for the best stuff, they make money on our backs, I want everything to be free "
    Yes they should put a little more credit items, I never said the opposite.

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  19. its in French were not all French.
     
  20. On the twitch stream they were talking about how to make the game cheaper one thing they trying is to transfer game income from power items to cosmetic. I took this as once they have established an alternate source of income other than gates and booty keys and the other stuff people buy uri for they can work on making the game cheaper to progress power wise to speed up the gap between UFE and new accounts. maybe it was just me hopeful thinking but something like this could work to replace where people are supporting the game from.
     
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