[SC] Extra Generator slot on Surgeon design

I know this has been mentioned so many times before, but in all honesty. Surgeon design is completely ruining PvP because of the extra speed it will get. It even can catch up to a Vengeance with a Wheel formation.

And we are talking about a Battlecruiser (slow but durable), not a Starfighter (fast but weak). The bonuses on the design already are good enough to use the design, it's just the generator slot which kills it.

Just.... just think about this a bit BP.

/end of rant

 

get a surgeon yourself then : P

 

I actually have the Surgeon myself, just not using it in anywhere else except gates because of how it makes PvP monotonous/boring. My suggestion would be to reduce the base speed of the Goliath when using the Surgeon to balance the extra generator slot.

Simple, yet efficient way to fix it.

 

someone saying that probably died in vengi against surgeon in wheel , RIP

 

So you only use the Surgeon right ? Then you should understand that the Surgeon is broken (REMOVED) right now. To be honest a Goliath shouldn't be able to catch up a Vengeance even with Wheel formation on.

 

It's hard to understand why someone with a surgeon would want it nerfed, there are ways to counter the extra speed of the surgeon; 1. get a pusat design and wheel formation, 2. get a lightning design and a wheel formation, 3. use skill and slow mines when on the run. If you nerf the surgeons speed then the lightning and pusat would have to be nerfed as well, the spearhead should be faster than any ship on the maps as it is supposed to be a fast recon ship but the pusat as the same speed when when promed as a promed spearhead.

 

I think there ok. I just hate there all green. Maybe they should have came up with a few different styles.

 

Why i want it nerfed ? To balance the game of course and to allow us to use different designs in PvP without any troubles of not being able to catch up with another Surgeons.
The Goliath was never intended to catch up to a Vengeance. Even the Pusat design raised the Vengy to Spearhead level of speed which isn't a reason to justify the extra generator slot the Surgeon gets either. The Vengeance was always designed to be a Hit & Run ship with a good speed to be able to outrun Goliaths with ease.

See i would be completely fine with the extra generator slot if the Base Speed of the Goliath would also be lower then.

 

The entire basis of D O is EVOLUTION, it evolves so that nothing stays the same. They added the HELPER ships to make playing in a group more fun (we no longer need to set configs for TANK or SHIELD we have two ships by design for this) don't have to run as we have a ship that can mark a target for attack. They introduced the Lightning to give it extra speed for short periods of time then came out with the Pusat to make the extra speed permanent. Now they have made a design for the Goliath to compensate for that extra speed too.

Have you not figured EVERYTHING in D O is fluid and always changing, just like the tides of the ocean, give D O time to get every Hangar equipped with the Surgeon design and then they will come out with another Vengeance design with even more speed, OR maybe a 8900 speed generator for 4000 Uridium. Balance in an Un-balanced game is history and hoping to re-balance it, at this point, would be to return to what they used to be and they will not do that.

It used to be we were told the progression in the game had something to do with a "story line", now it seems to be all about the COIN and how much they can collect from our pockets, if they would have kept the W W's happy they would have had more than enough coin, but they have chased so many out of the game (or turned them into Gate Farmers) that they don't need to spend as much on the game, get the ammo needed from gates, Uridium also, with the events on every month the Rebate and Box Doubler with Annual Premium ($300.00 USD total annually) and an occasional MHH (or HH if wanting the 50% boosters) and these guys are set for what they need.

Sorry but the speed of a ship has nothing to do with the imbalance of this game. Just adds a little excitement to it if you can not outrun your attacker (or in some cases the ship you attacked).

 

i think surgeon is a good counter of the pusat, then if the surgeon is nerfed the pusat should be too.
surgeon is not ruining PVP just doing it a little easier for UFE (same as pusat), i know a lot of noobs with surgeon and it doesn't do the difference for them.
if u say the battle-cruiser is slow but durable then the wheel formation should be deleted or at least no available while using goliath.

i would agree with u if the speed of pusat is nerfed too, i would call that balance.

 

i dont have surgeon myself but i like using the skill designs more lol. if your not in a pvp map, use spectrum lol least you can get away : P

 

Hate to say it,..but even with the extra speed and Wheel,..you have to chase em almost 3 quarters of the map to catch up to a Pusat. I do not see a problem.

 

Since the Surgeon is on sale the game is based on: who can escape better.

A few years back the game was based on SKILL. There were no tactics to escape except EMP + Cloak.

DarkOrbit has developed to a Escape Mode Game.

Ice Rockets, Surgeon, Wheel Formation, Slow Mines, all these things have destroyed the game.

 

I hate to say it,..but all that you mentioned there above take a matter of skill if you have your hot keys set up right. I fight against that everyday, don't seem humanly possible,..but that's what we are up against.