[UI] New Vengeance designs based on existing Goliath designs

Hello,

For some time now I have been wondering why is only Goliath being *favored* by the DO team and receives new designs all the time. If you go here you can see how many different options have Goliath players than Vengeance players. This is not a thread for suggesting something new in the game, it is a thread for asking the DO team to create some more designs for the Vengeance, based on the Goliath designs.

The Goliath received Vanquisher design (along with Peacemaker and Sovereign). Why is only Goliath supposed to have these exclusive PvP designs that give more influence points? I love playing Vengeance, I want to have similar design for Vengeance that I can use instead of using the Goliath.

Football designs were only introduced for the Goliath too. I would love to have Vengeance football designs, and I would rather buy them all.

UBA gives only Goliath designs as a reward. What if the winner is Vengeance player, and finds no use of the Goliath design (just because the player loves to play Vengeance, just like me)?

Goliath has also exclusive skill designs, and has even 5 of them. Vengeance has only one, Lightning. Why the Vengeance is not supposed to have more skill designs, let's say with passive shield boost and some active ability, just like the Goliath?

I can go like this forever, but that is not a point. The Vengeance is truly lacking in designs compared to the Goliath. And in most cases, I am forced to play Goliath for PvP/PvE just because the Goliath has more design options than the Vengeance.

Feel free to share your opinions on this.

Regards,
eT3RnitY

Note: This is not a hate thread at all! I did not wrote this to hate the DO team for bringing only new Goliath designs! I just want to raise the awareness that Vengeance is slowly falling behind the Goliath in terms of ship customization (designs).

 

It all boils down to one thing that is cost effectiveness, to make a new design takes a lot of man hours even if it is just a new skin and the man hours cost money. Adding a new design for the veng given the few numbers of them on the maps could end up a financial nightmare, you must also consider the fact putting to much skill on the veng could also unbalance the game. One could also argue the fact that the lenov in general out numbers the veng but as no new designs.

 

Hm, I am not sure that there are no Vengeance players. There are, but they are not playing Vengeance that much just because of the lack of options (designs). Personally, I am seeing lot more Vengeance players on the map after the release of the Pusat than before.
That gives the point that if we get new, cool designs for the Vengeance, more player will play them, and the Goliath will still be the best in terms of fire power in game.

About the unbalance of the game: if the Pusat didn't unbalanced the game (I personally think it did unbalance the game, but never mind) then I don't think design like Vanquisher for a Vengeance will unbalance the game (because it will have less fire power and speed than the Pusat).

 

I don't see why they cant add credit versions at 5% instead of 10%, you know little ships you start out with.

 

I agree.

I see a lot of vengeance in the game, but you are right as they give more attention to the goliath. I think more players are using the vengeance now because of the higher chance of escape. The Vengeance is pretty much a hit and run ship. The Lightning and Pusat designs put even pretty much point that out and, once just about everyone is in the surgeon, will make its self known for that even more. There are passive boosted designs to match the goliath for damage, shields, and the like but true enough one would just about think when they put something out for one ship, they would have an alternative for another. The Goliath is the Ultimate Battleship, as they say so they give it more variety. Vengeance comes second with everything else to the way side. I am surprised they actually gave us something for my BigBoy, for experience.

 

I love to fly my vengi! I do have other ships. During this event I've had surgeons race along the side of me and I'm running a full 576, so i couldn't even hit them the a sl-mine. That on my side hammering me.

It is time for a new skin for speeed. Or nerf the vengi so it goes faster or it becomes obsolete and it was a very fun ship to fly.

or added gen slots to make it faster as it should outrun a goli.

 

You mean, buff the Vengeance?

I personally think that the Vengeance does not need buffs, only more skill design options, just like the Goliath.

 

if there was a vengance only drone formation that allowed them to boost there speedat the expense of damage ,then they would have chance to escape the battle ufes instead of a certified kill might make it bit more interesting

 

I can feel your pain and desire to make the Vengeance a more desirable Craft, however, with the upcoming Ship Customization and every Stat design being a Ship we will have 50 possible ships to own and making these changes to the Vengeance will just increase these numbers. I already have 24 on us3 and 30 on us2 when this comes out, so increasing the Vengeance ships to coincide with the Goliath would add another 20 ships to this mix.

I could agree with taking the skill designs and adding a few more to the Vengeance but Pusat matches Surgeon already and then Lightning could be matched to one of the skills already also so an increase of 4 would not be too bad.

This would become too confusing as then everyone would want a ship exclusive formation and thus be to hard to deal with.

 

Perfectly understood your point.

My point was, Goliath is the Battlecruiser, best ship and everything. I respect that, but Vengeance has always been that sneaky ship that knows to surprise Goliath players I don't say that there must be 20 more designs (or, all the designs that the Goliath has), but maybe 2 more skill designs that will give some other customization for the Vengeance. Don't get me wrong, I personally love the Lightning and the Pusat, they are awesome designs. I am honest here, I won't mind if the Vengeance has 2 more skill designs.

 

personaly pusat and suregon ruined game balance big time, they should of never touch speed of those ships.
skill designes are ok. i have lightning more than 3 years paid it with uri 250k and now is just siting there, cant use it anymore because it cant outrun suregon.
they should let us delete some ships like enforcer or bastion, anyone who has skill designes of goliath dont need those ships.

 

they should make a defense special design for the vengie and aegis, with the abilities being more offensive to balance out. like make hp repair last 10 seconds instead of 7, and the hp pod drop to 3 or 4 seconds to balance that out.

as for the vengie special, maybe an ability to make it hit 20% harder for 3 seconds, with a 5 minute cool down. something like that