[SC] AM I CRAZY?

Here is a crazy idea...

Instead of banning thousands of accounts every month for box botting why not just make an auto box collector for our ships?
The main issue with players cheating is that they use auto lock to gain an unfair advantage in pvp and this auto lock feature comes as part of the package that also allows you to use the box botter, these players are putting their accounts at risk in order to collect bonus boxes.
If we create a legal auto bonus box collector for players ships then they are most likely going to use that rather then the illegal option.
This can be designed so that it can only be used in pvp maps and maybe also design it so that the drone repair cpu does not work whilst the ship is in auto mode, this would mean players have to keep an eye on their ship in order to prevent the drones from being destroyed.
I think with a bit more thought put into this idea it could be created in such a way that its not too unbalanced and the player cant just leave the ship on auto and goto the shops as when they get back they will have no drones.

It will put a lot of life back into pvp maps and also save you the hassle of having to ban thousands of players each month which is good for the game and will help it grow at lot faster.

It will simply work in the same way that the pet auto looter works.

Maybe even sell some kind of protection option for players using the auto ship looter cpu

Its just an idea but i think it would get a lot more people playing again, i mean you must of banned hundreds of thousands of players of the last 3 or 4 years simply because you caught them box botting, now if they could do it legally then there is a chance that these players would come back to the game.

 

I have to say that I cannot see the logic here.. but you did say it was a crazy idea...
I have never cheated and I happily box and PvE and PvP as I please without any script or macro or anything cos thats the type of person I am... and it seems to me that other people who want to auto-lock or box bot or whatever else these things do will still do it cos thats the type of person/player they are... I have a PET10 which I have built and I can box to the full extent that is given in the game as it stands and I am proud of that achievement... I dont feel good when I get something I dont deserve rather I enjoy making the best I can from what is available... I think it would be a better idea to protect new ppl and encourage them to work within the game parameters as intended by the Game designers rather than give them a 'legal' cheat...

Maybe another even CRAZIER idea... take all the boxes out of the map altogether and then ppl would not need an autolock program to box-bot...
another... just give a bonus each hour ppl play (woops I forgot the ship sharers)...

Maybe I have the wrong end of the stick but from my understanding this is my opinion

 

the idea of a game is to play it and have fun insead of letting a programs do the work thats not fun at all so yeah its crazy and will never happen lol

 

"the idea of a game is to play it and have fun"

Can you name me 5 things in this game that you truly think are 'FUN'

Players are already spending their entire day in pvp maps doing nothing but box collecting anyway!! Do you think this is fun for them?

Do you think you your self would have more fun if the pvp maps where full of ships collecting boxes and also full of ships protecting those ships so that you get 10 times more pvp then there is now!

One of the reasons this game is dead is because bigpoint has banned half of the community for box botting, if those banned players could come back and do it legally in pvp maps only then why would that be a problem for you?

 

Well if you don't like this game, leave. If it's not that simple, then you have probably addiction to this game (which most of us have ).

I have always been against illegal programs and cheats and I can't understand how this method would make this game better: There is enough players using some "mouse recorders" for collecting boxes and it totally ruins the fun. They are getting pretty much anything what they want with literally 0 effort.

And about PvP fights: how are you even going to think about this? With your method players would only collect boxes in PvP maps and after getting 100k extra energy and 1.000.000 uridium they would continue making gates. Oh but gates are also really boring: Let's make a legit galaxy gate program, which makes players galaxy gates with ease (yes, it was sarcasm). And what kind of PvP fights we could actually expect to see: Players just killing other botters in PvP maps...

This game is challenging and time consuming but players will eventually reach their goals without any programs if they really want it. Bigpoint have also made many events which helps lots of players to reach their goals even faster which is great for all of us. So all in all, we don't need these kind of features in darkorbit. It only ruins players fun and makes this game too easy.

 

The whole point of a 'cheat program' is to get something for nothing or for less than otherwise would be necessary... banning cheats is something that has to be done and if those that have lost their ill-gotten gains had played the game as intended then they would now be able to stand tall and have a ship to play without fear of losing it (not including those few which got away with it and stand there bare faced and say they got there legitimately) or being exposed for their lack of honesty...
You seem to be suggesting that those banned had no choice but to cheat.. I would suggest that there was no choice but to ban them... This is not what you are saying surely?

Repopulating the servers is not about give-aways but rather about balancing the chances of the newcomers of lasting long enough 'honestly' to enjoy the community and the variety that the game offers as it is... Noobicide is now endemic with many players and needs to be curbed and giving the bullies more, legitimately, is not going to bridge that gap...

I got shot down a lot when I started too but things were different then, different quests which bore honour points for ranking and not just Experience points for leveling, more Company loyalty where you looked after your own company instead of shooting them in the back while your enemy buddies attacked your home maps, Clans that looked after new players through the x-1 maps (then unprotected) and above and then inducted them as friends and members to the upper clan pre-trained... etc etc the good ol' days

The problems that we face here are caused by the abuse of the Game principles, be it through cheating (bots, pushers etc) or MultiCo Clans or X-Co Alliances.

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In short I think I have read what you suggested and I hope I have understood it..
Please dont feel that I havent considered the fact that you are trying to suggest something to help and if I could see a future with what you have so far then I would try to help...

 

Its kind of difficult for me to reply to these comments when people dont actually read properly and put any thought into what i said but instead just moan about why should people get things for free!
Everything in this game is free except for the prem, rebate or box doubler!

Its not cheating its just a cpu that lets your ship auto fly and collect boxes but only in pvp maps, works exactly the same as the PET!
Players sit their ship in the middle of pally field and let their PET do all the work for them how is this fun lol?

What im trying to say is that this game is seriously boring for free to play people and it takes them far too long to get to a competitive level which is why everyone started box botting in the first place as whats the point in manually collecting 50,000 bonus boxes a day to get the uri for the next piece of equipment you need when you can save the hassle and use an illegal program instead.

I mean you would still have to be at your computer when using this cpu as its not going to fly your ship back to the same map and its not going to run to port when attacked either, if you start to get attacked then you simply take control of your ship and fight back if you want to or run.

 

they where ban for using programs not just box bots other bots 2 the game was fun it died because bigpoint took 2 long to ban the cheats so more and more people did it and when the 2 masive ban waves hit killed 70% of the servers some chose to start again some just went to find more bots and get banned again its not as fun as it used to be because it cost more to play people have to cheat to win a fight and its all about who is better then who chat is filled with flaming people moaning because they cant do a shared cube without getting popped thinking they should be left alone :S .... u have a legit bot is called a pet means u have to be active to use it but the whole point of the game is to play it not have a daft program do it for u just so u can ramp up chat with a ego from a ship u never make your self been a good fighter comes from the training of taking on bigger npcs and player with less equitment stick a noob in a UFE ship and u will see what i mean..

geat idea lets get a bot for call of duty so it runs around and killz people for us while we watch :S


just said a mouth full

 

The whole reason for the loss of populations is because the release of the LF-4 and Upgrade system put the people who had worked very hard to get their ship to the top of the heap, just to see it needed to get more invested into it to keep it strong and on top of the mound. They did the math and saw hat was happening with the "CHANCE" system and after spending twice what they used to and still going backwards in the game decided they were not happy with it any longer. They did not leave the game right away but they did stop spending money on it. With all of the bogus events, bugs/glitches, advantages collected by the cheaters, and inability to report users of the 3rd party cheats has forced them to find other games to enjoy. The inability to be able to protect the NEW players for being popped all the time is the biggest reason for the lack of population growth.

The next thing I see you proposing is an AUTO KILL for NPC's, this taking your ship damage calculating it out and subtracting the ammo that would be used and kill it in one shot so the GRIND of the game is removed completely. The only thing that would be a grind after that would be the PvP which is what is causing the lack of populations now because the players want an EASY kill instead of having to work to get their kills.

Grinding has always been the back bone of D O and your attempt to remove it and allow the cheaters to stay in the game as a method of increasing the populations is just half baked, it also assumes that the players could keep connection when they are not at the computer. I find that just switching from in-game to SkyLab to do transfer will disconnect me frequently.

Instead of suggesting things like this why don't we let the developers fix what they have messed up, send them a message to thoroughly test their updates and not be adding a ton of glitches with each upgrade. 3 months to fix an issue is outrageous, and allowing an update to cause issues to be seen in the game for 4 months and not acknowledge it is the cause of the issue is even worse.

 

Hello,

Crazy or no, this isn't the first time this has come up... it may not be the last time either, but the answer is still 'just no'.

Having hundreds (thousands even) of accounts flying around the maps unattended didn't make the game better years ago - as mentioned above, the unfortunate longevity which it continued did far more harm than good to the community.

Something flying your ship for you is cheating plain and simple. It might 'fill the maps with ships' but if you are trying to play and every ship you come across is just flying along doing it's thing, and no actual person is ever there to meet you, fight and defend, what's the point? THe counter point cannot simply be "but when they have time to play they'll be there, have what they want so they can do what they want and play the game!" because a few hours of everyone being actually online doesn't save the rest of the day/night of just automatons.

You don't make and mold your game to figure out how to accommodate cheaters, how to "legalize" cheating, or essentially turn everyone into someone who cheats the game.

On that note I'm going to close this out, there's better ways to improve population issues and given that cheating is still banned and still earns bans, I think it's fair to say the stance on cheating isn't going to change just to get ships in maps. There's other ways to do that, and the work on that can only continue.

Regards,
-Closed-