[SC] For OP32: A full elite account costs € 1,325.75

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  1. Tryder2

    Tryder2 User

    Hello again.

    I come to share a post that I found in the forums in Spanish regarding the cost of a full account, not counting the ammunition, that sooner or later will take place.

    I would recommend to the DarkOrbit team that a full account legally purchased in a package will only cost $ 100, I would pay it, and many others. Many of us are here only for PvP, because PvE is currently monotonous, boring, since you do not need any mental effort to play, it is always the same, instead, PvP if it is very fun inside the game.

    It's just a recommendation, with a lot of respect.

    Here the original post: https://board-en.darkorbit.com//threads/cuenta-full-full-cuanto-cuesta-en-dinero-hacerla.126220/

    Price of the account:
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    To be "full" LF-4 = ~ 4000 Keys (6,000,000 / Uridium)
    To be "full" LF-4 (16) = 45 * 100,000 = (4,500,000 / Uridium)
    To be "full" Havoc + Hercules = (2,500,000 / Uridium) for the two in total counting doubles and odds
    Have Apis + Zeus = 1700 Keys or (2,500,000 / Uridium)
    To be "full" vants (16) = (1,000,000 / Uridium)
    Have Basic PI for PVP (~ 1,000,000 / Uridium)
    The ammunition does not tell because in the coffers you will have left enough to invade.
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    Total Sum: 17,500,000 Uridium
    Total in €: 1,325.75 € With Mega Happy Hour x3
    Total in €: 883,83 € With Blitz 350%
    Total in €: 795,45 € With Blitz 400%
    ---------------------------------

    Information provided by Oleksiy, of the forums in Spanish.

    Finally I want to raise 3 questions, 2 to the developers, and one to the users.

    For Developers:

    Using logic, with those prices, how many more years do you think the game will last? This question generalizes the following: growing your account with PvE is boring, you do not need a real mental effort. Also with palladium, does not pose any challenge.

    Second question for developers: Is it worthwhile for users to spend their time on this game ?, with prices so high, and their system of account growth extremely unbalanced, logic leads to the game will die sooner rather than later if not Make really significant changes both in the time you get everything, and in the price by buying it.

    Question for users: Taking into account that in a PvP battle, 90% of your equipment matters, and 10% of your ability (a full lf4, and full iris will never win you a full improvements, apis, your, 35 PI) . Is the game free, or paid?

    A greeting.
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2017
  2. USS-Aries

    USS-Aries User

    The cost of gaining UFE status varies from sever to sever and also the luck factor will influence the cost factor, using a statistical evaluation from a Spanish sever as no real mathematical comparison to the possible statistics on any of the US severs or UK severs. With the amount of variables involved and no real constants a true cost analysis cannot be performed on any sever.
     
  3. Tryder2

    Tryder2 User

    Is it normal for you to have a free2play video game, an account ready for PvP costing more than $ 100? Buy Overwatch for 40 dollars, I have access to the whole game, with all its updates for life. Buy COD for 30 dollars. Buy BTLF4 for 9 dls, my pc that runs all games at ultra me cost less than 1500 dollars. It becomes logical to you a price of a full account for more than 100 dollars, which are minimum 600 dollars ?.
     
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  4. Majima

    Majima User

    do to games like cod & bf4 is like apples to pork like just bcos theyre both games with online they exist in the same spectrum of how a game operates
    other mmo(mmorpgs) r closer to try and compare do to than titles that not only have campaigns separate but are entirely separate in scope
    u buy cod u already have your character guns etc u lvl up and unlock different things or more guns but thats all it is
    do exists that such things r not guaranteed to u by just playing
    its not like years ago ppl didnt drop 100$ jst to get fe and that is still more than ud pay for a nonf2p game at release day
    not saying dos cost if ur paying to vs cost in time if ur doing it for free but it still is free as no one has to pay if they dont wont to
    unless u pirate ur not getting those AAA titles for free nd without that ur not leveling up to get ur gear or wotever at all
     
  5. Yeah, that's a lot of money that you must pay. IMO you can compare it with COD, Overwatch etc.

    But you can decrease the costs a lot:


    Buying Apis isn't necessary, you will get enough blue prints after collecting your LF4. (But you still should buy the whole Zeus, because they tripled chance for Hardware is IMO more worth than the Zeus itself)
    Ignore the level 16 updates for LF4, because they will introduce some new LF4, which needn't the old upgrades.
    BTW you forget the protocols and gears for the P.E.T. This would increase the costs ^^


    Buy the rabat pack (-25%) plus Premium (-5%) :
    4000 keys=>6,000,000 Uri.
    • rebate + Premium + 15% sale=> 3,570,000 Uri.
    How do you only pay 2,500,000 Uri for full Havoc and Herkules? You need (if you do all Zetas and Kappa during double reward day) 13 Zetas (=>1650*13*0,7*0,85*100Uri=1,276,275 Uri)
    and 20 Kappas (=>1900*20*0,7*0,85*100 Uri=2,261,000 Uri)

    =>around 3,500,000 Uri for gates

    Zeus: 1,500,000 Uri * 0,7*0,75 (use Zeus day!)=>around 800,000 Uri
    Full vants: 700,000 (I don't use upgrade hour, because the upgrade time is too annoying)
    Basic PI for PvP: 700,000
    Total sum: 9,270,000 Uri
    Total in € with Blitz 400%: 702

    Besides the the Uri prices are still too high, IMO they should rather decrease instead of increase.
    Other ideas:
    • Buy bonus box doubler. You will earn every hour additionally 8K Uri, if you play at least 1 hour per day, you will get 56k Uri per week for only 2€.
    • Search a job. If you earn 10 € per hour, you will get 120K Uri per hour.
    • Play LoL, which only needs skill.
     
  6. iNSANE(BG)

    iNSANE(BG) User

    2 euro - 1 week doubler
    1 week doubler - 500-600k uridium
    2 months doubler - 4-5 million uridium
    6 months doubler - UFE, costs around 100 euro with some rebate + you buy the cheap offer of premium for 1.50 euro kinda 10 times so you have 10 months premium for 15 euro... i see here 100 euro for ship + 20 euro for electricity
     
  7. *Rob9614*

    *Rob9614* User

    Thats just making it more of a pay to win game in my opinion, the people would have put no effort into making an account and already be at the top of the virtual food chain, maybe they should have more packs to help players out but not just feed them it on a plate.
     
  8. boos2020

    boos2020 User

    If the owners would learn that lower cost would actually make more money... Draining a whale for 3 or 4 hundred a week is small thinking and eventually the whale will get piss and leave.

    But, charging 3 or 4 hundred minnows 10 or 20 dollars a week to buy more ammo and booster while getting a 1 time cost for the ship and equipment makes far more sense and would lead to more popularity and sever growth.

    Besides the bots and auto lockers the biggest factor for players leaving is the new equipment that exploded the cost to play, which also lead to more bots...

    Sell a ship with full equipment (all drones, 35 lf4, 35 bo2) let the player get the rest of the equipment in auction or shop. Keep the upgrade system and loose the chance factor. (all upgrades should be a flat cost) Make all gate rewards 100% if you complete at zeta you get the havoc, like wise you get the herc, lf4, or booster if you complete a kappa. The gates have become expensive to build and the reward should be a guarantee. Also the accounts now have many hangers to fill and the equipment should be easier to get so players can actually use the ship warp as intended.

    Loose the jump cpu and make the battle maps mean something again. One of the things I miss is that blind jump in the bmap map hoping no one was waiting for you. If there was reds there then you had to use skill to evade and escape.

    Make the happy hour and mega happy hour actually happen at variable times like the past which will make the happy hour and mega happy hours mean more and add some surprise to the game again.

    Get back to pvp as the game was developed to be, pve and quests are for farming ammo and clan activities to build a cohesive team for pvp battles. This game is not an immersive 3d mmo sandbox that allows you to explore space it is a basic shooter that allows people to chase, hunt, and group fight. Lets get back to the play style we had in 2008, and 2009 when the bmaps were loaded with battles.
     
  9. i only spend just under 200 pound and im a few lf4s shy off full a few bits for pet and rest of bio and a few comic ships and im set. u just need to know how to play

    to all that price tag u need to add all the discounts we can pick up and events that give free stuff
     
  10. boos2020

    boos2020 User

    protocol new players do not know what experienced players know. They will quit before the learn how to play. You need to keep in mind that the game need fresh players because the old players will most likely not return. So yes you can game the system and save a little because you have experience, but someone starting right now and never playing before will get overwhelmed and quit around lvl 12 or 16. I know this because everyone I ever talked into played did that almost every time.
     
  11. yeah i can see a player thats just starting having the prob but asking around and thinking more be4 they spend will lower the cost to make an account .. but this game is child's play to the game i have just came off ....

    try farming for stuff getting killed and losing that stuff making a base and getting loads of stuff 2 have it raided by other players or better yet to make a massive base get loads of stuff to have the server wiped once a month i mean it don't cost loads to play just a lot of wasted time from my point of view
     
  12. [removed] The cost of full lf4 is pretty much 0, double gg sunday hades = full lf4 for free. Or go for unstable lf4 during the event = free lf4 too. To get full havoc you need to do 15 zeta in avg during double gg. With 55 uri clicks that would cost you around 500k uri. And in the process in avg you would get 1500 log discs and 750 keys. As someone said before buying box doubler and boxing is very fast and easy way to get uri/energy with noob ship and costs just 2 euros a week. Just buy rebate for a week when you intend to lots of gates or puchase items.

    By purchasing subscriptions only you easily become ufe within 6 months (maybe not full pp) and cost would be under 100 euros for sure. It's about playing smart. If you dont want to make any effort then you can bank a lot. Your choice.

    There's no need to insult other people, thanks-SE
     
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  13. boos2020

    boos2020 User

    Juhnu has not built a ship recently, or he would know that his statement is complete garbage. Plus it use to take 2 weeks to 1 month to be elite and start fighting. This game is not about building and farming it is about pvp and group fighting. The faster you can be competitive in pvp the faster the servers will grow and in turn Big Point will make money. The ship should not be the focus, the focus should be pvp and group fights.

    They would make more money selling boosters and ammo if everyone logged on to fight...
     
  14. Just to mention that I started in ga1 new ship day before halloween and in just 6 weeks I had full havoc, 10 drones, 9 lf4, 2m x4 ammo, 150k hstrm, 600 ish. I also had full rocket fusion, full alien hunter, full shield mechanics and 2 points in electro optics + full shield engineering. 6 drones level 10, 4 drones level 6.

    I had only used subcriptions. 2 euros for premium (as new player you get a month premium for 2 euros), 12 euros for doubler and 8 euros for rebate. So 22 euros used in total and my ship was already semi UFE.

    This thread is nothing but crying from players who do not understand how to play this game. Period.
     
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  15. MyBigi

    MyBigi User


    +1 to this, u just have to spend wisely, getting ufe account from 0 is really cheap nowadays.
     
  16. Yeah, the game is really cheap for free2players now. You only have to spend 2 years for boxing +Palla and 1 year for completing some Zetas and Kappas. Don't forget to buy enough antidepressant, if you want to stay alive during these 3 years :p
     
  17. you crazy man i used 1011 keys and got 0 lf4 then bought another 1000 and got 8 so you tell me 4000 will get some one full lf4 lmao you madddd
    Also i done 42 kappas for full herc and 28 zeta for havok do the math allot more than 2.5m uri yet again lmao so to get 10 of each lool
    Not to mention all the pet gear etc all these new players have had it way to easy yet you lot stil complaining we old players had no double gates no gate discount imagine howmuch ufe cost us going on 30-40m maybe more
    they wil never sell you a built ship NEVER keep dreaming
     
  18. And where do you get the ammo? From gates, therefore you must collect Palla or bonus boxes. So they make less than 70K Uri per hour.
     
  19. MyBigi

    MyBigi User

    I reinvest what i get from cubikon on gates again. I don't collect Palla/Boxes since its a waste of time and boosters.

    I do that all the time, and i always get more ammo(x2/x3/sab) than what i used + x4, and with that ammo i can make more uridium, just have to be sure to have double boosters of damage and sempron (infect yourself if u can, this way u deal even more damage)(The higuer ur damage, less x2/x3/sab u use to kill the cubikon).

    Btw: for this to work u have to do the gates on a Double gg event and have the 25% discount(1 week of this thingy its like 2euros, so its not very expensive), this way building gates is like 50% cheaper.
     
  20. With this trick you can farm all days long. *smart aleck on* but you have to spend much time for clicking the Extra Energy. *smart aleck off*