LF-4 Enhancement Feedback

This is the worst update to the game so far and the DO statement that they are moving from the P2W style of play to a more balanced game as turned out to be pie in the sky. These enhancements are nothing more than a new toy for big spenders. For those players who have full LF4's with upgrades are at a disadvantage in comparison to a player who has full LF4 with out upgrades as both will get exactly the same enhancements for the desired exchange leaving the upgraded player out of pocket. Daily missions seem yet again another way of putting cannon fodder on the maps for the big guns to add to there kill count. Lower level players have been pushed even further down the ladder as not only have they got to still try and get LF4s to exchange for the new enhanced LF4's they are also faced with the fact that before even being able to even consider an exchange they first need PP's and the 400 log disc's required for each exchange is a very high price to pay. This new arms race can only lead to one thing, that is even more empty severs and the death of what was once a good game.

 

i think this new lf4 is not worth the effort i mena 5 dmg hahaha grow up put 5% dmg or 0.5% per laser this is worthless xD big deal 17 dmg more per laser ... like its gonna change anything insted of whasting ur time on lame lasers just put influation events where people farm on maps and reset the rangs make seassonal ranking system .... server is 10 years old new players cant get rank they get killed all the time why would they play this game ? i am not new player but the game used to be more fun now its starting to be lame ... some dude that play 10 years ago have op rank while we need to do probably 1000 gates if not more ... and we will not even get closer to their ranks couz ITS OLD 10 YEARS ! do something to make the game fun not to get people's money

 

u do know 5 more dmg is more then 0.5% right ? and if u dont have lvl 16 lf4s u get another bonus when u make them

 

You can't upgrade these new lf4's so doesn't that mean it's better to have fully upgraded lf4 instead of these "enhancements"?
Anyone?

 

When you say you're through buying uri, and you buy uri for the new lf4s, and they have to be crafted.
WHY!?
Now people that pay wont get them nor free players Dx
My time isn't that worthless jeez.
EDIT: Im fine with a partial pay to win because money isn't worth as much as my time, This should be the "Flame and Rant " section not feedback

 

just read the assembly lol, its not only 400 log discs but its also a level 1 lf4, like theyre not hard enough to acquire, so bp expect us to pay all over again for another 45 lf4s plus all the hours collecting stuff and then invest 16000 log discs to gain another 12 damage, OOOOOOMMMMMMGGGGGGG, hahahahahahahahahaha

IM GLAD MY PREM HAS EXPIRED

 

It's not entirely the worst update that could've happened (although allowing UFE's and wallet warriors to access even more potential firepower does seem somewhat counter intuitive). The concept of having lasers with bonuses is a good one, but I don't think the implementation has been very good.

Instead of having entirely new lasers (restricted to LF4's only), it would have made much more sense and would have been far more flexible if the bonus system was implemented almost as a CPU-type extra or attachment that could be equipped to a laser (similar to drone designs I guess).

e.g.

Magmadrill attachment: Increases base laser damage by 6% and +2.5% damage boost for PvP only
Paritydrill attachment: Increases base laser damage by 6% and +2.5% damage boost for PvE only
Hyperplasmoid attachment: Increases base laser damage by 6% and +.5% HP boost per laser​

Under an attachment/"drone design equivalent" type system, you eliminate having to always need a new LF4 each time and this probably reduces about half the cost for the players, but also opens up the possibility to use the bonuses on other lasers whilst you try to obtain another LF4.

With regards to the bonus / perks themselves, I do feel like the HP bonus is a bit overpowered and the Parity "PvE" version could be improved a bit more. 35 LF4's of the Hyperlasmoid version equates to a 17.5% HP increase which in my opinion is too high, and should probably have been limited. Likewise, for PvE bonuses I feel that you can be more generous on the damage bonus as a bonus of 5 damage is probably not worth the investment to a lot of people. It would be interesting to see the statistics of how many people actually bother with the Paritydrill LF4.

As for the resource and logfile requirements, I don't think the logfile requirement of 400 is too bad (when you compare that to the cost of upgrading a basic LF4 to level 16), but I do think the resources should be reduced slightly or at least, increase the methods or NPCs from which they can be obtained.

Pirate maps already cause a lot of issues on servers with people killing each other and thus practically eliminates fair access to those pirate NPCS to a lot of players. Cubikons / Deadly Battlerays will attract farmers, who again often hog those NPCs and won't allow people to join them and benefit. Then you have the Uber Kristallonians. In my view, there should be a drop rate added to a larger variety of boss / uber NPCs such as:

- Bosses: Sibelons, Lordakiums, Sibelonits, Kristallins, Kristallons, StreuneRs
- Ubers: Mordons, Devolariums, Sibelons, Lordakiums, Sibelonits, Kristallins, Kristallons, StreuneRs

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Summary:

Good concept, but poor implementation and lack of thorough understanding of basic server / player demographics mean these new features will be exclusively available to the minority of wealthy / bully players only.

 

I'd like to see the devs make an account and try to get the lf4s w/o help ....

 

So what I'm gathering from the FAQ is once you have all the materials and go to craft your sparkly new laser you'll end up with something without upgrades AND not upgradable????

Players will have to gather the recipe ingredients, and have an available LF-4 in order to complete the upgrade.

⦁The lowest level LF-4 you have in stock will be the default choice

⦁All enhanced LF-4’s will be at base level after the upgrade regardless of previous LF-4 level

⦁The enhanced lasers are not currently upgradeable​

As if all the crap you have to collect just to upgrade ONE of these isn't enough, the lowest upgraded LF-4 is used
and is NOT upgradable. The kicker is that someone with juuussst enough level 16 LF-4s on their ship that cost so
much to upgrade in the first place will go build one of these "enhancements" and end up with a brand new, nifty neato
LEVEL 1 LF-4 [removed].

Seriously????

Only thing I don't get is why Bigpoint doesn't let you re-upgrade the new lasers...that'd be MORE $$ in their pocket.
How'd they overlook THAT cash cow?

swears & shorthand/acronyms for them are against the rules. Please keep that in mind in the future-SE

 

It does actually make a reasonably powerful lf4 available to lower players, you can't upgrade them so they arent for ufes.
Lf4's are easier to get now, since the double day.
Noobs can build the gate and have ufe friends drag them thru hades to get lf4's and grind to get the new ores.

Oh wait, it costs 400 log disks...derp

Nevermind

Edit
Just realized they actually are more powerful than standard lf4s upgraded. I should get some gd compensation for the millions of uri I dumped in upgrading. But in defense of DO, fairness has never existed in this universe. Fool me twice, shame on me....

 

Ridiculous update... 400 log discs per lf4? 4 Delta gates PER lf4 for the Kyhanlonanaon rocks... puh-leaze. This is an epic fail. I'm already ticked off that I had all my Hercs and Havocs BEFORE double gate days came out. I won't be participating in this new nonsense. The clock is winding down ....

 

lol easy is relative to how hard they were to get in the first place.
Im half Ufe and im not even gonna try .Not even.

 

Firstly i was a premium member and spend on avarage while playin.Even tho it look fancy on twich and unoficial revialed.Kinda dissapointed on first sigth.Personally i didnt liked the ore costs of new lasers imo each sould cost with only 1 particular ore like who likes to kill mobs make them viable Paritydrill with only Bifenon for dailies Hyperplasmoid and for Magmadrill gates.its just an idea.Other thing i kinda like DO cuz when ur ufe kinda figths are equals i mean there is limit to power.For developer team you dont have to change that i mean if someone wanted to go grow up like forever there are many games like Diablo and etc.Anyways keep up 'good' work!
Or it will be just another -1

 

It just doesn't make any sense to make it so hard for noobs and not worth the time for ufes.
Unless they have something else to add like upgrading them or nerfing the log file requirement.

We ACTUALLY wanted

Better new events. Not re-hash

New aliens, new maps

A decent, less boring, and not overly simple questing

The ability to turn off pvp and let noobs be invincible at will.

Not a bunch of nooby weapons and equip to craft that doesn't help them want to stay logged in.

EDIT
Magma is 217 damage and an upgraded lf4 is 212. I guess this makes the best laser within reach of who? So all the money I dumped into upgrading 45 lf4s is gone. Back to square one. Its gonna take forever to get these. Why are there three varieties just getting 45 is gonna kill me. I suppose this is easier to do than the way I had to become ufe. We should have known, everything in this game is an epic grind fest.

 

oh yeah btw Devs, -212 points +5 for effort

 

No cargo from cube kills this new enhancement breaks the game again come on ID10T get it right for once

 

What will happen if we try to use 1 LF-4 level 16 for this upgrade? it will be set to base level for the new LF-4 as they are NOT upgradeable

What is base damage that will be used when this update is applied and give us 5% more on it regardless the type we chose except Hyperplasmoid?

• Magmadrill – Base Damage 212 + 5 Boost Damage PvP Only
• Paritydrill – Base Damage 212 + 5 Boost Damage PvE only
• Hyperplasmoid – Base Damage 212 + 0.5% HP Boost Per Laser

What is Blue Diamond Requirement,Green Prism Requirement,Yellow Flash requirement and where can it be obtained?

Laser Name	Bifenon Requirement	Kyhalon Requirement	Tetrathrin Requirement	Log Files	Weapon requirement
Paritydrill	350	160	300	400	LF-4
Magmadrill	350	160	300	400	LF-4
Hyperplasmoid	350	160	300	400	LF-4

What is requirement to upgrade the LF-4? After chosing the Laser type you want the lowest level LF-4 you have will be upgraded to the laser you chose. You have to have an LF-4 in inventory for each new laser you chose.

What is needed to produce the upgrade - all of those 350 Blue +160 Green + 300 Yellow +400 Log disk + 1 LF4 level 0? The LF-4 can be any level but it is recommended you use one set at Level 0 as any upgraded LF-4s will be reset to Level 0 for the new lasers. THe new lasers are not upgradeable.

What amount of which ores will be drooped from specific NPC and will it replace the cargo or what is the percentage change to drop new

NPC	Drop Chance	Amount Dropped
Interceptor	20%	1
Barracuda	25%	1
Saboteur	25%	1
Annihilator	25%	1
Deadly Battleray	100%	2
Cubikon	100%	2
Uber Kristalon	30%	1
Uber Kristallin	25%	1

 

ooh new laser enhancements...oh wait it will take ten years to have a full set...Nevermind DO thanks for nothing.

 

This is just dumb. This is going to take way too much time and way too much effort. I'm not even going to bother, at all. I'll stick with my lvl 16 LF4s, as will 90% of all other players. Only the very top players will bother with this. That's just a fact. What were you thinking when you made these requirements? In what universe are these requirements reasonable?

 

I think dark orbit is doing a good job....make players work for it because you always have players that like to buy stuff and kill noob players and that's not fair. sometimes its not about trying to buy stuff sometimes, work hard and play hard and it will pay off so keep up the good work dark orbit staff.....CUBES FOR ALL ELITEACE LVL 21 EIC