[UI] Eliminate Clan wars

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  1. So we all know that clan wars are necessary because we cannot expect everyone to get along, but let's assume for a minute that a fully maxed out clan with 50 maxed out ships repeatedly sends war to a clan in which most of their members dont even have upgraded drones yet. I would think this would be considered pushing rank on their own company.

    I suggest having stricter regulations preventing clans from being multicompany and eliminating clan wars all together. Right now the ranking system is broken because of this and darkorbit is dead on many servers. Many may say that people can leave their clan; however, there are always weak clans in one's own company that rank pushers and send war to so it does not fix the problem of a broken ranking systen.
     
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  2. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    Agree with you 100%.

    As I said on the other Clan Wars post. Yes it is bad. We do have 3 Factions. And many hunters.
    To hunt your own clan is just wrong.
    You still can kill people that annoy you if you are a BIG and Strong clan. Just then. Each member has to do it in a row or something.

    And about clans from all companies. I agree that it should not happen. People can change company for that.
    So I am for a change
     
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  3. Twotam1

    Twotam1 User

    Isn't the point of the game company wars?

    Agree, eliminate clan wars and multi-company clans.
     
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  4. Kyro

    Kyro User

    You cant really do too much to deter people from shooting their own company, people already have ways to stop getting shot by own company and that is be clanless(so then you cant be popped too much). If something were to be done to make it even harder to shoot your own company then people would just abuse it, like keep putting mines on you to annoy you, keep shooting cubes you're soloing* and generally stuff that you deserve to be shot at for(like just generally being obnoxious/annoying/useless in an event but still leeching the rewards).

    That and people can always just ask someone/a friend in another company to just pop you/shoot you first, so generally I think it would be pointless to try make it any harder to shoot your own company. Instead they should address the reasons why people shoot their own company if possible but of course you will never be able to get rid of it all together and what sort of lala land would it be if no one in the same company had an issue with eachother or not had any in-company fights?


    So basically don't try to side step that there is real reasons to want to shoot your own company and making it harder to shoot your own company will do no good. Another example is SB/CC(Spaceball/Crazy Cubes), on SB are you saying people who just wait at the portal for SB to come is fine? And on CC, are you saying people who pop the cubes are fine? Both instances they should be shot cause they are being useless and such things will continue to happen in the game, making it harder to shoot your own company will just do the opposite of making the game better in the big picture.


    *You can say whatever you like about soloing cubes, if a UFE wants to make good uri soloing cubes is best way and if BP wants to change this then they need to change how the sharing on rewards work(like say doesn't share exactly but just get less rewards than full rewards, for example 2 people shooting it doing same dmg each get 800 uri, 3 get 700 uri each etc basically something along those lines). Though on high population servers I imagine cubes are just pointless due to how many people are playing/would want to solo cubes(which is another issues they need to address aka give more/better ways to earn decent uri).
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2017
  5. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    You do have some really good points. Especially for CC and Spaceball.
    What concerns making more URI and Soloing cubes. It is all simple. I played on GB2 before. And was soloing cubes when they were not busy. Great to make uri.
    On GE1 that is close to impossible. As there is always someone want to shoot it with you. But I never found it a problem.
     
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  6. On US4 we have it bad. ENVY pretty much runs the server. They're VRU and EIC, with 3 clans. And they own spaceball. MMO has no place there at all. People try to steal boxes but there's so many of them that you lag out before you get close to the port. And they made their own rules or you get war sent to you because they feel so intimidating.

    1.) no cloaking
    2.) shoot the ball no matter what, unless you're envy then sit on the port and do nothing while the rest of the server works for you
    3.) don't sit at port
    4.) don't even go near the port unless the ball is there

    It's so bad that even people who are jumping from 3-5 into 4-4 get killed instantly because EIC half of the clan sits there parked. The clan has VRU general, EIC and VRU basic generals, several colonels. Lowest rank I've seen was Chief Captain. It's absolutely ridiculous.

    Both multi-company and wars need to be stopped. Multi-company alliance is a different story, but these are major issues that need to be addressed. And let's not forget to mention pvp quests that multi-company clans help each other complete by letting them shoot down their own clan mates. You're supposed to help your own company grow and succeed, not declare war on a clan because they chose not to participate in spaceball.
     
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  7. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    Completely Agree with you man.

    DO wants to make money. It is understandable. The game can not run without money.
    But Bloody Clans like that. They are just all Greedy, Selfish Bastards. They think they getting rich and powerful and have lots of fun?????

    NO. They do not. They are killing the game slowly. Without realising it. Money will not matter. If Just one clan is in the game.

    Everything Depends on us. But DO should assist.

    Hope this gets noticed
     
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  8. one thing u people nevr forgot please

    Clan wars just came into the game with 1 reason
    wen there clan wars people using much more x3 (now today x4 and rsb) that means uridium need for that and thats $$$ for big point
    from start on i sayed years back clan wars only builded for this reason just like space ball and al other events you need to spend much uri ammo and thats chas$ flow for Big Point thats how the game works such simple, al things what coming into the game on that framerate based you need shoot much good ammo for al things and get only a little bit back.

    only thing what BP was doing wrong is multicompanie clans , thats a big fact what they need to change back you can get only into a clan from own companie , its not much work and easy to realise for bp that wil make the game a bunch better, on that way own companie players dont kil any more own company they wil get neg honnor, and then you get again a fair company policy.
    do you wil join a special clan okay switch company , you lose honnor 50% and al is good.
    now it works on the servers 2 companies picking on 1 companie, nobody need to change anymore wen wil make war join other companyclan and thats it.

    like always dark orbit creates there own bugs and never wil change it again back, from start DO it worked on this way and over 100 years it wil stil be the same
     
  9. Clan wars are awesome!
     
  10. Boxa!

    Boxa! User

    The fix for this is to only allow clans to declare war on clans that are within 150 ranks of each other. (Give or take)
     
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  11. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    That seems Reasonable. Some sort of thing like that should exist.
     
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  12. neoonoma

    neoonoma User

    Picture this:
    A clan is recruiting only MMO members so some poeple with strong ships from MMO go there.Then some EIC members contact the clan leader and he says:"yeah you are strong enough for our clan".Then he changes the requirement so the clan will only require EIC members.So this clan has members from all companies,yet,nobody lost honour.
     
  13. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    Picture this:

    If DO made changes so the clan can recruit just the company it was created. So you either swap company. Or you can not join.

    Seems fair to me.
     
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  14. batata

    batata User

    I suport removing mccs, clan wars shouln´t be a problem that way.

    I see some people raging about spacebals... So u whant people to shoot at the ball ... so u can 3 shoot them ? I think u ufes broke the game already hard enouth there is no need to ruin spacebals. Spaceball is the only event worth for free players,THE ONLY ONE there is not another more over when they are going to remove bonus boxs (thanks to ufes) it will become the only way (to free players) to evolve.

    About cubes, THEY ARE SHARED SSSSHHHHHHAAAAARRREEEEEDDDDDD plus the rewards are divided based on the dmg u do that means (should u take some time to do the math) u will receive the exact same uri for ammo spent (also ufe spend credit ammo on cubes so even if it was not the case it should be alright).

    Back then there was not mccs but players didnt mind losing some honor if they belived it was necessary to the game. They also didn´t go arond poping own company in order to test updates in dmg like they do now.
     
  15. Boxa!

    Boxa! User

    Added to Darkorbit 2.0 Thread. Thank you for the idea.
     
  16. neoonoma

    neoonoma User

    What that has anything to do with this thread?If you are going to say irrelevant things make your own thread.Really.
     
  17. Ah I just when I had my first 2 irises and bam clan war kicked in. I used to fight and get killed a lot. When I mean alot I mean a lot. Eventually I got FE and still getting popped. Not as much but still. Now I'm strong enough to 1 v 1 a lot of the server. I know where you are coming from, I had to ride the storm to come
    Out on the other side.
     
  18. batata

    batata User

    I was replying to this thread, i agree with the op but not with some folow posts has of company killing is needed and thus clan wars, before making such a coment try to understand the contest please.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2017
  19. Twotam1

    Twotam1 User

    Definitely should be X Company formed clan means only X Company members.

    What was the original purpose of clan wars anyway? Just something else to do?
     
  20. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    I do understand that if someone from same company is annoying. It is great to have a chance to get him without loosing rank. That is Clan War.

    But the system of clan wars is abused quite a bit. That is what I am against.

    But as always. We are humans. Smartest things on this planet. So we always find ways :)
     
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