LF-4 Enhancement Feedback

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  1. Im just glad they fixed the back page bug , for me at least, so some field testing...it'll be like a month of casual playing b4 i get a new lf4 and thats w/o the logs so i think its ok.
    Seems like the logs are a little high i mean im in the realm of being able to farm a couple hundred thousand uri a day , and thats me trying, and im near,at,or am UFE so this is defiantly for end game players, if its not obvious, getting full new lf4s will be grueling in my terms of time.
    One at a time i suppose :eek:

    The Hp boost isnt too strong shhh make em nerf it why dont you o_O
     
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  2. Boxa!

    Boxa! User

    Here's a thought: The Dev team should have to test everything themselves before they release it. What I mean by that is, put yourself in the players shoes. After you can achieve it yourselves without spending money THEN you can implement it. By now that means you maybe have 4 of these LF4's.. and it took you what 6 weeks?
     
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  3. Kante.

    Kante. User

    If I take the weekly quest, I can have only 4 regular quests. Is it bug?
     
  4. the quest seeking the source for the event is a joke I would like just ONE admin or support person to explain how this is done. Look at the amounts of log disks alone to get this done nothing but a joke to people who have spent years trying to build up and now we have to face this. I normally don't get on the dev team like this but come on people its a joke and more then 90% of the player base will not accomplish this task. So if the majority are not able to get the new item what is the reason for making that item such a long long journey to obtain???????
     
  5. Where do you find the Kyhalon. I have been just about all over the universe and not one piece yet. Need some help please
     
  6. Do weekly quests and if you can can, you could participate on the current event. Also by doing GGs there is a chance that you could get some Kyhalon and other ores. For more information you could check the FAQ here.
     
  7. To be honest the last event when they released was a joke, tbh i didnt took partt of it cuz was useless, the missions to obtain those resources are crap tooo so much time spent on shooting uber for 5-10 of them..
     
  8. Why just DO sell "luck" booster. Its almost impossible to get ore from gates! bifenon is ok but remaining two!
     
  9. coobo99

    coobo99 User

    I am a player with 33 LF-4, 2 Herc and 4 Havoc (I don't do gates very often). My 9 drones are all lvl 15 as of right now. I think the LF-4 stats are perfect if people are facing other players with these LF-4; however, yes, they are EXTREMELY difficult to get. Not only are they not in boxes, but they are only craftable by hundreds of resources that you can MAYBE get 20 of one in a week or two if you grind hard enough. The upgrades of the replaced LF-4 should transfer over. Yes, most UFEs in my server have uri to waste, but it's a waste of uri to go through upgrades + the 400 logs + the ridiculous amount of time it takes to get the resources. Bifenon is the only reasonable resource on the assembly aside from the LF-4 itself. Quit feeding the pay2win people. I'm tired of quitting events and giving up on things because it is only attainable/winnable by UFEs spending $100+ a week who have nothing better to do with their time or money.
     
  10. souleater1

    souleater1 User

    I looked at the stats for the Enhanced LF-4's and find they are not worth the forfietcher of one regular lvl 16 LF-4, the enhanced LF-4's
    start out at 212 and ur not able to lvl up thesel lasers, and LF-4 fully upgraded according to Damage charts can hit over 350 something, think about it a regular LF-4 fully upgraded hitting at 350 something or an enhanced LF-4 that hits 212 and is not upgradeable, and costs
    u an enourmous amount of resources to construct, u make the choice!!!!!
     
  11. OrbitGuru

    OrbitGuru User

    looks like everyone has. this game has gone so far down hill. it seems like the devs only listen to wallet warriors, running off all the free players
     
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  12. The new lf4's start at 212 damage, and a lvl 16 lf4 hits 212 damage they are suppose to be exactly the same thing.
     
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  13. coobo99

    coobo99 User

    The new LF-4 are great. Other than the ridiculous amount of time to get Tetrathrin and Khylon it will take, the bifenon, log disks and LF-4 are completely reasonable. An LF-4 from lvl 1 to lvl 16 is ABOUT 100k uri. 400 logs, no rebate, prem, etc., is 120k uri. I'd say lower the amount of Khylon and Tetrathrin by about 25% OR give more opportunities to get these resources/increase the amount given by quests. The resources are targeted to make it harder for wallet warriors to get the LF-4 and the logs should be available to any UFE that has been around for a while seeing that most have 400k+ uri.


    Yes a lvl 16 LF-4 equals the new LF-4 no upgrades.

    Bifenon and Seprom should be REMOVED from Obsidian/Apoc/Blue/Red/All booty.
     
  14. Jormungand

    Jormungand User

    213 lf4
    lf4pvp 212+5=217 is it worth it?
    Ship's: 60% sep, 20% Boosters, 12% PVP FATS, 92% total damage boost
    x1.
    15*212=3180*1.92=6,106
    15*217=3255*1.92=6,250
    Drone's: 60% sep, 20% Boosters, 12% PVP FATS, 6.5% level 16, 20% havoc drones, 118.5% total damage boost
    x1.
    20*212=4240*2.185=9,264
    20*217=4340*2.185=9,483
    Pet's: 48% from x12 level 3 lazer gun protocol
    x1.
    10*212=2120*1.48=3,138
    10*217=2170*1.48=3,212
    x1. Total to a player:
    LF4; 18,508*4=74,032+RSB-111,048+HS23,000+'3030's 13000=221,080
    LF4PvP; 18,945*4=75,780+RSB-113,670+HS23,000+'3030's 13000=225,450.

    So as you can see dark orbit you stuff is useless. Consider upping the damage by 20-30 damage and let us upgrade the new lazers. And get real. No one wants to pay to win.
     
  15. Ship
    60+20+12 isnt 92% its actually 115,04%
    15*212=3180*2,1504=6.838
    15*217=3255*2,1504=7.000

    Drones 60+20+12+6,5+20 isnt 118,5% its 174,82%
    20*212=4240*2,7482=11.652
    20*217=4340*2,7482=11.927

    Pet 48% from protocol, 20% from dmg booster = 77.6%
    10*212=2120*1,776=3.765
    10*217=2170*1,776=3.854

    Total to player (pp for rocket don't affect hstrm only booster do; on rocket its 60+15+20=120,8% not 95%)
    LF4 22.255*4=89.020+ RSB 133.530+HSTRM 24.000+plt3030 13.248=259.798
    LF4 PVP 22.781*4=91.124+RSB 136.686+HSTRM 24.000+plt3030 13.248=265.058
    Thats 5.260 difference.

    Keep in mind that with LF4 you shoot 75-100% so
    X4 ammo
    LF4​
    LF4PVP​
    MIN​
    66.765​
    68.343​
    MAX​
    89.02091.124

    Point of LF4PVP is boost down dmg, as you can see difference is 1.578-2.104 it doesn't look a lot but keep in mind that when 1vs1 start in ring formation you will do almost 100 hits, overall you should put 150-200k more dmg than enemy.

    They plan to give us chanse to upgrade it but it will take time.


    How did i get percent: seprom 60% is variable A, booster 20% is variable B, PP 12% is variable C.
    So 1*1,6*1,2*1,12=(2,1504-1)*100=115,04%

    Thats how you calculate when its included serveral percent, you must multiply not add up.
     
  16. Jormungand

    Jormungand User

    That is not what I have found to be the in game damage modeling.
     
  17. Guys seriously if you want to make a quick calculation for the amount of damage you'll deal in a given setup just count the number of lvl4s you have (say you have 20, 20*200=4000) and multiply them by their base damage, then keep multiplying by other numbers that arise due to boosters/sep/formation etc and you'll get the precise value - it's not that hard, just some basic math
     
  18. Amen! At current rate of tetrathin availability I get at most one finished a month. At this rate it will be over two years to acquire a set if I do every daily mission for Tetrathin and place high in any events offering it in the prizes . Seems like that's a bit of a long stretch of time to me.
     
  19. kyhalon isnt problem, you can get more than enough from QZ even if you dont doing weekly quest. Tetrathrin is hard to get what was actually plan, you can get 10 per day, from Votrex event you could get 15 per day whats amazing(even just for that was wurth to do it, don't know my many hate it), every UBA also give it, pirate hunt was give it.

    Overall you can make like 3-4 in 2 months, but I'm sure how time going there will be more events with tetrathrin as reward and more ways to get it.

    P.S. pirate hunt was good way to get bifenon so you don't need farm it later.
    [​IMG]
     
  20. 2 a month would still take you at least a year and a half to get a full set, and that's if there are enough events rewarding it as a prize. That's a laughably long amount of time even so.

    Yeah, I know, I ranked in top ten. Nobody wanted it so I kept picking it up.
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2017
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