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  1. neoonoma

    neoonoma User

    1)In any site that I've been to that gave the people the ability to dislke someone's comment I noticed many dislikes and almost no one saying what they disagree on. It's a wise choice that dislikes do not exist on this forum. If you have something you disagree on and feel like you want to express your dislike so much then post a comment and don't just dislike the comment and run away. That's not to say that there aren't people that dislike the comment and then comment on what they disagree on but those people are very very few. After all, this is a forum, if you won't discuss problems with other people then what are you going to do?

    2)Well, first of all, there is already a huge gap between the FEs(or even sub-UFEs) and UFEs so making the process of getting the new LF-4 faster really won't change anything besides satisfying people for not having to grind years for them.

    3) Of course it's easier with a group, but the game is so dead that you can't even find 2 people that want to grind UBKs.
     
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  2. Gap is never been smaller than this days, I start on mp1, lf2 was in a bid or for 5k uridium so
    mp1 60 dmg
    lf3 was best with 150 dmg
    So ufe than make 150% more dmg than "starting" ship

    this days you can easy get
    SLL-02 for credits which doing 145 dmg to npc and 90 to ships
    LF4 doing 200 dmg
    so UFE make 38% more dmg than "starting" ship

    there is no way any era of Darkorbit not full ship could ever compeat with ufe same is this days, only problem is people are lazy to put seprom or even promerium on shield, also shield engineering with 25% more shield help a lot and its only 8 pilot points, when you look that with kamikaze zeta gate is really easy to finish on sunday you can get 50 booty where u get hardware to craft spectrum and 100 log disc to get pilot points and ring formation is really great with 120% more shield as well ( if you fill fast confi in right and change in slow with full dmg when you get attacked first change in ring than change configuration, that way you will keep to have full amound of shield will not be cut on half by other configuration), I don't really see problem in surviving as new player as long as you play it right.

    Keep in mind UFE will also die by UFE on cubikon or anywhere on map if hunter come from cloack unless he pull Houdini with emp+cloack flying skill and slow mine but that escape cost 350 uridium while your is free and you will make him spend a lot of ammo each rsb shoot cost around 90-160 uridium what isn't small price.



    If you get 45 of pvp pve and hp new lf4 will you have reson to play, not really unless you wanna fly around and TRY to bully people, I don't say its perfectly balanced I'm more for option you get as much as you play for things like this, maybe make it even harder but not be limited with 1 quest per day. Its hard to make it like that if its npc than bots will warm it way faster than player what isn't good for game but I don't believe there is a bot for low gate, why don't you can get like 5 tetrathin for finish 1 gate, with 3 ppl you need around 20 min for finish one with x4 so you need 30 hours of play for 1 lf4 what is more than acceptable if you ask me.
     
  3. batata

    batata User


    "so UFE make 38% more dmg than "starting" ship"
    Yes its true that the mp1 is way worst than the ssl2 but geting the fl3/2 was much much easier back then than geting lf4 is today. Also the missile dmg being as much as high as the lasers back then ended up covering that diference, i tested this by going in a droneless bigboy full with mp1s. It takes some more time but not that much more. Meaning, while today u can get to the midle ultra fast but then u strugle alot to get ufe, back then the progression was much more homogineous and much faster overhaul.
    Now with respect to the equipment/power u must admite that the gap is much bigger now ufe vs starter wise than it was back then, i think there is no doubt about that.

    About zeta or other gates, the problem is not making thru them, the problem is geting them assembled in the first place. Even spacebals takes alot of time.

    About the rest of your post, and as a free player that actualy got thru that, not every thing is so easy as u describe about dealing with ufe attacks and progressing thru the game. Look just try to create a -->free<-- acount in some server u dont play already and try to do those things u sujested in your free time or when u are into doing something diferent, or just go to yt and see some of those project zeros (for free not those buying premium) some players do, that is worth anything i can say about this.
    But anyway i respect that u like this version, u respect that i like the old client and every thing is fine.
    For me the best would be to have both versions so every one can play the one they like the most, just like it was in UW. That would make every one happy. Arguing to dead wich one is better will take us nowere.
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2017
  4. you was need like 5 hours for 10k uridium, today in 5 hours if 2 friends boost you in low gate you can make 50k uridium in 5 hours, with that you can do like 5 hades and you should get 1 lf4 from that (10% chanse double reward on weekend) and still have booty which you can use, but yes its true you need more time to get on ufe point and this "new" version is more oriented to grinding part, old one was more to pvp, even this ufe you see on map they needed same time to get on that point

    this kind of games is really really hard to balance, maybe the way would be since will be server merge make new server where will new player be in incubator where you will not be able to attack other players just grinding part and once you are ufe you can transver account on normal server or just make more quests for low lvl with really good reward what will speed them u, I'm sure most of spending happen once you are ufe on ammo, way more than this boring grinding part, they may giveup money from this starting phase to get it back once people are ufe
     
  5. ramnik

    ramnik User

    Lol @ the guy moaning about killing 6 ubks

    back when it was 8 drones and lf3s was almost impossible to solo it lol

    with all this stuff now you can easily do it lol.
     
  6. neoonoma

    neoonoma User

    What are you talking about? He complained because 10 tetrathrin is too few for the effort and ammo you will spend into killing 6 UBKs. Not that it's not easy. Before you talk, read carefully what people are saying.
     
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  7. ramnik

    ramnik User

    using X2 ammo it dont take that long lmao.
     
  8. TheShadows

    TheShadows User

    I would say if you could spend a little bit of money buy Prem and rebate.

    On gg discount days
    Starting off with 400k - 500k uri
    Spin Alpha, Beta and Gamma using x5
    Hit the multiplier everytime
    You'll definitely receive more uri back than what you spend (if u have rebate and prem while you spin those gates)
    Get loads of ammo.

    Cube with x3 or x4 or hunt.

    Enjoy the game.