Multi-Company Clans - What to do?

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  1. ATEER

    ATEER User

    All what you sounds like 3 company fighting for who is best.
    And that is what I would like to see.
    MCC brought it to a different sort of game. Not company based. But clan based.
    Squeezing out new players and clans. So they are unable to participate in events properly. And even grind.

    Ateer
     
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  2. Odin®

    Odin® User

    I know your frustration ATEER . It took me 5 mins of PM chats with the clan owner of the #1 MCC clan on the USA East 1 server to the End War agreement. In return he offered me his ts3 last night in DO chat so later today/tonight my GMT and I will visit his VoIP addy and learn and participate . I won't assist in any player kills or CBS kills because of several conditions . I have no ammo for that style of game play. #2 They are in a League of their own and to be invited of all my yrs here in DO as a Credit Player basically there becomes a bonding relationship moment/s with the Wallet Warriors. I call it respect , something a player earns. I am a clan owner and a well seasoned Veteran of Darkorbit on 4 servers with 9 yrs of enjoyment/frustration/satisfaction and memories since registration. I have only spent 180.00 dollars US currency in 9 yrs here in DO on myself , but I found some folks that I met here in Darkorbit and passed out some Game Cards totaling 100.00 dollars to help them yrs ago and more clan credits to folks than the World Bank allows . In my discovery I learned the funds I sent were to kids that played their hearts out. These young adolescent members were and still are Terrors in the game when they go Ballistic , as well as they are responsible folks of all ages with Careers and Military responsibility , College , Family , from different countries and languages . My rewards in this game is not for myself but the new players and DO's ability to balance the Merge/Ranking Rules just basically returning the Game to it's formal Glory Days . I could show you Images of what was and the fun that amounted to running Gate Blockades between Companies from years ago but today is today and their are the New Adventures .
    My point is become involved whether you are young or old. There are many ways to view the Merge and the many Incoming players and how their server experience challenges let alone whether or not they search out their best game they bring . I can tell you this now For some it can be confusing and for others it will be a direct hook-up within the Factions ... OP32 said it will be a slow process in the Server Merge in the Beginning
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2017
  3. i mean at least they helping you not be bored just think what would you be doing if these clans wasnt around
     
  4. Twotam1

    Twotam1 User

    dissolve mcc's, give ample time for company switching
    make company clan wars back to 10-day duration with a cool down period between war declarations
    game definitely not f2p newbie friendly anymore (from hunters and costs)
     
  5. Gnorm

    Gnorm User

    Thanks, EneeIdebyho2, for bringint this back to the original post :)

    While much of it has been on track, even I missed one of the original list... the part about

    "Keep company activity relatively balanced"

    With so many servers being overrun with MCC clans full of huge ships - is it really reasonable to assume that company activity is balanced now? You can't "keep" something that doesn't exist. As long as MCC's can dominate a server, company affiliation doesn't mean much.

    The problem didn't spring into existence overnight, and it won't be resolved overnight.

    In the current state of the game - there isn't any incentive related to "Company". The rank-chasing MCC pilots are primarily interested in having "all the generals" in their clan, and in doing that, they spread themselves across all companies - and then ignore anything that looks like company loyalty. Some of them are just in it for themselves, or THEIR rank. Which company they happen to be in means nothing. (Note - not *all* MCC ships are doing this, only the ones I'm familiar with. And I don't fly on every server - I'm sure there are exceptions.) The "dominate everybody" MCC pilots don't care two hoots about company - they just want targets.

    If the MCC pilots are given a free pass to change companies - then it is quite possible that they'll all choose to switch to "one" company. But it is also quite possible that they high-ranked ones will choose to stay to keep their rank. Or they might switch to a low-population company in order to give themselves a larger pool of targets. There is no way to forecast their responses - it will depend on what they are trying to get out of the game - on how they "have fun".

    We are all here to have "fun" one way or another - and what we identify as "fun" will be different from one person to the next. So their choices will be based on what THEY are getting out of the game - the goal of "balance activity" will have to be revisited anyway.

    And that - imho - should have been built in all along. If one company is "undermanned" - then there should be some mechanism in place to "encourage" people to join that company. Or switch "to" that company. But there is no benefit related to company membership in the current implementation. Almost anything *could* be done to encourage balance - events or whatever - but there's no way to guess if a balance problem will even exist. Not sure how to fix something that isn't broken yet.

    Good hunting,
    ~Gnorm
     
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  6. Nope40

    Nope40 User

    It could be the cause of someone else in your clan...

    Besides, aren't you UFE in that server? Why are you whining then?
     
  7. ATEER

    ATEER User

    I am UFE. And most our members are pretty strong.

    I just Wanted to SHOW how Great War SYSTEM IS.
    New clan is spotted. And right away either NAP or WAR. Unbelievable :)
     
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  8. Just because it is a new clan does not mean they are new to game. I remember during the Pirate Hunt 2012(?) that people created new clans just because the clans they were in were not 100% active or wanted to get more of their friends the titles that were going to be assigned. These clans were dismantled as soon as the Event ended.

    I do support your feelings about WAR and believe that this feature (along with same company attack) should be removed from D O.
     
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  9. MyBigi

    MyBigi User

    There are countless ways to avoid being killed... there is no need to remove same company attack.
     

  10. "countless ways " = spend spend spend ?

    This was once a game of HONOUR..................................
     
  11. MyBigi

    MyBigi User

    If you don't want to die, just run spectrum, if anyone attacks you, just activate the ability and run to the gate lol, thats the cheapest way to escape.
     
  12. There is no good reason to allow it either.
     
  13. MyBigi

    MyBigi User

    Then just leave it as it is right now, since there is no reason to take it away/keep it.
     
  14. batata

    batata User

    If we have same company attack what is the point of wars :) ? Wars and company traitors make each other redundant. Remove one of them, less "old code" to care for...
     
  15. MyBigi

    MyBigi User

    You attack someone of the same company without war, u get minus hon... u attack them while at war, u dont lose nothing. Thats the point of having wars, to not lose hon while killing people of the same company that you don't get along.
     
  16. This is why the support team is having issues with how to fix this cause if they do one thing (example) allow people to switch company with no honor lose then the company's will become to unbalanced, or if they just removed MCC then they are going to lose a bit of money cause these players wont be able to play with they friends at all and will just end up quiting not everyone can just stop playing with the same guys just to play with people in the company who lets be honest they probably dont even like. I noticed some people have said ohh they just using that as a excuses but how would you feel if you was in there shoes yall need to think how both sides feel yes its going to make you happy but just cause server merge is happening doesnt mean the game going to be packed Its just the same barley active people being in the maps. and servers are going to start looking like Global america 1 where botters control all the battle maps while yes there a few big fights still is going to be boring
     
  17. batata

    batata User

    I see.
    I have a question to you, just out of curiosity, how would you react if they changed the game so that you could attack anybody without losing honor, including same clan.
     
  18. MyBigi

    MyBigi User

    It would be really fun, we fight between ourselves a lot since there are barelly enemies to fight xD... and some of us managed to even get like -500mio hon from killing people of our same CLAN xD, we want to have fun, if we cant fight other people .. well we will fight between ourselves, nothing personal, just for the sake of fun and also we get better at fighting too xD.
     
  19. MyBigi

    MyBigi User

    I would recommend BP to do this, allow a small period for people to change company freely, then forbid the mcc clans, make it so that every clan member has to be from the same company as the leader, also make it so mcc cant send nap/alliance to other company clans(this will force mcc clans to either be like 3 subclans from the 3 companies, this will make them lose a lot of clan ranking, or they will have to switch to the same company, and that will make mcc much harder, since they will be all on the same company)

    Doing this is the best option imo, it wont make too much people unhappy, since mcc clans will still be able to do what they do, but it will be much harder to do(and that will make the people against mcc happier):

    -If they choose to stay how they are now, they will have to split into 3 subclans, and since they wont be able to send nap/alliance to each other, they will see each other as red dots, even if they have voice coms with each other, it will be much harder to find the people they want to kill on big fights, since its laggy and everything is red alies/enemies...On the long term, this will force them to all enter the same company, since its really annoying trying to lock some cloaked target between all those allied/enemies red dots.

    -If they choose to go the same company, well thats the best outcome right? they will be on the same company, they will still dominate the server, but they wont be mcc anymore.



    No need to change anything about same company attack or wars
     
  20. The difference is that the people on both sides know it is just fun. The players who are being popped every time they enter a map do not see this as being fun and quit the game. IF this mentality continues then my earlier "discrimination" comment will not matter as that is all that will be left in the game, and then who will you kill? A server full of UFE WALLETS who do nothing except hunt all day long, no more free kills as the fights last forever. Think about this for a minute, is this really what you want? Do you really want to be the king of the mountain so badly that the game can not have NEW blood to keep it going and you want only people equipped the same way in the game? MCC's and Same Company Killings are the cause of many NEW people leaving the game and the issues with the programming are sending veteran FREE players away, Server issues are even making some wallets close and leave the game. I still stand by the idea that we are doing server merges anyway, why not allow the MCC's to maintain their Clan's on their OWN server? Allow the players to enjoy the game with the protection of NO Same Company Attacks Allowed in the NORMAL Servers and any future MCC's will be moved to the MCC Server.

    This is the only solution to the Bullying that has been allowed to go on for so long.
     
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