[UI] Remove double rewards for Hades gate.

This gate is too abusable and rank points are getting way too much for people who are abusing the gate and we all know how they are abusing it with clans and groups.

This change would absolutely destroy the gate and make rank chasing much more difficult again, and Hades would still gain the most rank points, just not by as big of a margin as it is currently.

Waiting for all those [REMOVED] to get upset and rage reply to this post now.

 

Listen I agree with you Hades gate is too beneficial in terms of rank, and rank in my opinion should be removed/replaced, but this idea has absolutely no effect on bots or even legit players because of many fatal error:

You can't bot Hades gate efficiently. Matter of fact, I don't think there is a bot capable of botting Hades gate to this day. So how does this stop botters abusing it when there are no bots in Hades gate in the first place?

You also have to keep in mind the legit players doing this gate. Why should they suffer because they are doing the gate the way it was designed? In big groups and easily farmable and quick gate to do for ammo, LF4s, schism, etc. and you want to take it away because of a stupid meaningless number at the top of your screen?

Second of all, botters have millions and millions or uri from botting the maps, so I don't know why you think that this will stop anyone from getting rank when they can simply do other gates and Kronos and maybe makes 4/5 the rank points of Hades gate on a weekend, so you're basically doing nothing to their rank progression.

Third of all, people are getting rank from the new 100 quests that gives out billions of EP and Honor. So Hades gate, at this point, is obsolete for anyone chasing rank because those quests are far more efficient for rank, and you can bot every single one of those quests. Sure it gives them 60 million rank points every Sunday, but one new quest can give them twice that amount and they can just bot the quest for free.

Fourth of all, and batata mentioned this, that Hades is the only gate that is easily farmable and easily able to become UFE from, so this greatly benefits noob players. But by taking double rewards, you will only harm legit players trying to get LF4s or Spartan drones because you just took x2 rewards from them thinking it will do anything to the botters.

Like I said, Hades is way too beneficial for rank but this idea accomplishes nothing when there are better alternatives to get rank anyways. This idea has a major flaw and that flaw is just the fact that Hades gate isn't the best way to get rank anyways with other alternatives.

 

That's a very blank statement to say they cant bot hades when they probably can and I wouldn't be surprised if they did. For someone that claims not to bot you two seem to know a lot about bots and keep making a lot of statements about them with a lot of confidence.

It's a very good solution to stop Hades being a problem in the ranking system, that's the suggestion. Hades is easily farmable? With requiring 8 people in a group on the same page is easy? I'm not even talking to you so I don't care, I just want Bigpoint to consider it.

I couldn't care less what you think actually.

 

Rank is basically irrelevant when its pvp, basically rank doesn't measure how strong your ship is, its your equipment that does the job for you, people who just wants to add in more honor on doing hades isn't a bad thing.

But if your issue is about people who gets in the easy path of going up on the ranks, D.O could revamp the ranking system, and make the rankings base on the ships ability to deal the highest damage they could possibly do, how many kills they have done to players, and how many deaths they had from other enemy players or aliens, less deaths means less negative points towards their ranking score on that said ranking system.

Removing such feature on hades would hinder other newbie's chance to get LF-4 quickly.

 

Newbies won't do Hades anyway because the gate is used to rank chase and removing double LF-4 from it will stop rank chasing.

Redoing the ranking system is difficult, hence this simple suggestion to slow it down. Rank is important to many people so this isn't even an argument.

 

This is so not true yes players bot in hades gate but the lower ships all try to do hades for schism drop, Also bot's can do any gate so if you stop double rewards on hades then they will just choose another gate this in no way is gonna stop the rank chasers.
What do you really care anyways if your not going for rank? it does nothing to help your account is just bragging rights so.

 

its not also bragging rights to be in the top most spots on ranking yet all you did was become inactive for weeks and let a programmed application do the work for you.

D.O wouldn't remove one reason why they are still earning so much from this game, +50% honor and exp once you buy atleast a minimum of 5,000 Uridium once the sale is up, and then everybody does hades gate, obviously players would need to get rebate and premium to maximize their discount on spinning galaxy gates and that's a lot of money from a lot of money spenders out there that they are earning.

So basically suggesting this they would just shoot you down like a bird before you could even get to flap your wings, that's how the industry works and you got no way of preventing it, not even petitioning.

D.O isn't a game like you would imagine, its all about who's got the best rank considering a lot of players now has full prometheus laser, not to mention they got nothing else to do after earning that much so they aim to get a higher position on the ranks, you could compare it to politics, the more money they need, the more their ambition gets bigger.

 

You can't do hades gate without being UFE because rank chasers won't let you, nothing else to add.

They aren't earning anything from Hades because the only people who can afford to do it all of Sunday are people who are cheating, I assume very few are legit. Then again, I stopped doing the gate because relying on 7 other people started to get annoying. Better to just do something to nerf this gate so it stops being a problem.

Everything you said is false. If you are a threat in PvP solo fighting that's when you get known, that's why I'm known at least. The rest of your statement is very ignorable.

 

The cheaters are going to cheat regardless and you need to keep this in mind.....You should realize that we honest players would probably be the only ones to suffer from a hades nerf as you have suggested. If you really wish to complain please choose a topic such as botters and leave the few bonus items we honest players can gain from such as double gate rewards alone. As for your inability to get in on gate groups just make a few friends to join you in Hades and help out.

 

So your telling me if you have 4 friends that want to do hades there is a way the ufe can stop you?

 

I don't play hades so I won't suffer anything from it and neither will most people, since it's used for rank chasing, getting spartans and well, that's basically it. Plus you can get the resources for spartans from any galaxy gate, not just hades. There's plenty of options. Plus I don't think double rewards even affects Spartan crystals.

No, you can do it but it won't be as effective as people using it to push ranking, which is the problem with the gate.

 

Your statement is laughable at its own way, you're just like a kid that brags about being good in shooting down ships.

I don't think you get my point, no one is being at a disadvantage if people spams Hades, only those who complains and wants everyone on the same level as they are has issues with people spamming hades for ranks.

You play the game however you like, its not the game should dictate what you should do, if you let the game dictate what you should do then you're not going to enjoy playing the game yourself and that's what is happening to you, the game is designed like that consider the developers did it, and so the players take advantage of it, and if you aren't happy about it then its your own problem to face, don't call in other people to actually join you on your little riot, i know you did gave your opinion but being aggressive towards those who have just shared their opinion won't really make your suggestion be recognized at all even by most of the community.

The game is in the dark, its almost time for it to say goodbye in the cold dark void of space and soon enough people would literally be ashamed of themselves that they've put so much effort into something and it all comes to vain, not to mention those who have used bots? they won't bother because they never did spend that much time with the game, it will face the same faith as BSGO because we're talking about BP here, not to mention even saying BP's company name gets your comment remove from a post, now no one really bothers to do it.

 

Except the people losing rank because some unskilled dude just spams Hades every sunday, that's basically what the ranks is "top user" no mate, more like "top Hades spammer". They might as well just rename the entire ranking system to that, because that's all it is now.

I don't care for your insults, don't reply here if you don't like it.

What are you talking about? My suggestion to better the game is to do something to stop Hades being so OP for rank chasing, it has nothing to do with how I play, I'm a very high rank but not from spamming hades, which is why I cant get further up.

Then stop playing, I don't know why you're lecturing me on things I already know or don't care about. Quite frankly, I don't care on your opinion of the overall state of the game, that's not what the thread is about. Go make your own thread if you want to rant on about this kind of thing, I just said once again what my thread is about.

 

I don't know, you should go teach yourself more english rather than spending so much time on the game because you literally did not understand my point.

Your suggestions comes from a ranting kid with selfish reason behind the idea, just because a lot of people wants to spam hades or people use bot to spam hades doesn't mean it will make the game a better place if you remove that feature, rather people would be frustrated and you being ridiculed for being a mean person to remove what's giving them satisfaction, have you ever felt something being stolen from you where you want it to satisfy yourself?

I made a lot more thread than you did years ago and mine had more sense and giving ideas that would give the game more complexity and depth than yours involving selfish reasons about rank and unnecessary improvement upon ships that requires analysis and testing before it being implemented, even if you want to suggest something you should think over the consequences, the effects and conditions that would come after and not just selfishly suggest to remove something just because some unskilled dude is getting a higher spot in the rankings than you do, surely you have social complexity towards everybody else in the game, and you should fix that because a game is a game, its not a career, its not a job or you shouldn't even proxy it as work.

If you're a kid and trying to make a name for yourself in the game you should focus your attention to something else, if you're an adult ok fine you do you i won't really care what happens but the more you become aggressive towards the people who gives out their own opinions or idea, the less likely they will try to even talk to you that your suggestion isn't good, is not that bad, nor its good or bad and its ok.

Also, don't reason out that english is not your 1st language, english is another language i speak but its not the language i speak locally.

 

I also wanted to add, just because you stopped doing hades over the reason you did not want to rely on 7 other people isn't a valid point to suggest something so selfish, this thread might probably get closed soon enough because of your aggressive behavior and rather part of the reason is also my fault but its for the better.

There aren't bad suggestions, but selfish ones are the worst to be honest.

 

Because you have no point, you are just ranting about game issues in my thread, I don't care about it. My native language is English so I know it's fine, I think it's just you.

I'm not being aggressive, I'm telling you to leave my thread alone and stop being passive aggressive towards me for no reason, I don't even know you.

I don't want to read all of what you write, most of it is nonsense. Get out my thread.

 

lol, ok whatever you say kid.

 

I'm sorry but I do not understand how the removal of double gate rewards for hades gates will reduce the gate abusers. Not only because the gaps are already massive but mainly because - if hades would still be the best gates for rank - there would be no reason for them not to do it the entire week. At least now it is limited to Sundays only.

And if without gate doubler hades would no longer be the best gate: I feel like gate abusers would just switch to another gate which is something honest players would have to do as well, there would be no difference.

Perhaps rewards could be reduced depending on the amount of gates one completes in a day although this will only stop the gap from becoming bigger. I have no idea how to reduce it without touching the 'gate community' you mentioned. I think they provide income for BP as well so it may not be as easy.

 

The amount of rank points per sunday would dramatically drop which would mean people would be more comfortable not having to spam for ranking, also only Hades should be removed from double rewards.

It might fix the problem or it might not. Better to try instead of just leaving it how it is?

 

I guess you could be right that it will reduce 'hades spamming' and it keeps the gap from becoming bigger, but I do not expect the gap to decrease in size. Of course it may be better than doing nothing although one may ask him or herself if the double rewards are too valuable to change, even if you choose not to compete in the rank race (see below).

Nevertheless I find your argument that people who are on their own and cannot compete with people who are not (and always have a group for hades) very strong.

But overall I find gates and ranking one of the most fascinating mechanism of the entire game: so many hours are spent in GG with the main goal being to earn honor. There is no extra damage, no extra skills, nothing but paying for rebates packages. And if that is what keeps money flowing to BP I'm all for it, after all I do not care about rank but can still benefit from the money other players spent in the form of updates.

I'm sorry if this sounded somewhat salty.