BP logic is too much for the human psyche.

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  1. Enigmatic

    Enigmatic User

    I just read this. http://www.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/board/threads/low-gate-exploit-punishment.101050/#post-842498

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not upvoting the bug exploits but what I just read made me really annoyed.

    This is the official announcement about the punishments that are to be given to the LoW Gate exploiters. I'll refer to some parts of it.

    1. ''...a couple of weeks ago the DarkOrbit team made an attempt to fix one of the most annoying and long standing exploits that was bothering us and many members of the community. We changed the way the LoW Group Gate worked, so it should no longer be possible to gain severe advantages out of it. The abuse of the LoW gate was throwing off the game’s balancing so much that all our recent attempts to achieve more fairness for all players were thwarted.''

    This is the proof that DO developers or whoever is in charge of the game's 'justice' is several parsecs away of the game's reality. Annoying exploit ? For the members of the company, that is, who all they care about is money. I can't believe that they couldn't see that especially non full elite players saw this gate as the only rescue island of this game. And they changed the LoW Gate to something even more fair as well as impossible for young players. They also banned the kamikaze inside the gate; our only hope to make good uri 'legally'.

    2. ''...so it should no longer be possible to gain severe advantages out of it.''

    I'd like to ask them, when they were fighting for justice and the 'severe advantages' of the players, did they have in mind the 'severe disantvantages' that existed since 2012 ?
    The 5k uri the gate gave, should me the normal reward for each player individually, but they didn't have the brains to exploit the 'exploit' in a good way, for example, a time limit of the gate's use; they had to close a good shop.

    3. ''...Still, some players seem to have found a bug and abused it to their advantage.''

    What ? Where's the player's crime ? They're going to get punished because they found some dollars on the pavement and picked it up ? That's robbery for you, lol.

    4. ''So with this we would like to remind you that any gameplay element that is not accessible in a straightforward way and would require you to do very unusual things or will give you unusually extreme benefits should be considered an exploit. And while we may turn a blind eye if you do it once, any heavy exploiting will result in permanent bans.''

    And so, the evil players that have DO 'fairness' for breakfast every day, will be chased by the law for crimes. Their crime ? Picking a dollar from the street. Who is to blame ? The 'thief' that picked the dollar, or the carefree owner of the dollar ? Same case here, with DO developers and programmers being the carefree owner and the players being the 'oh i found a coin on the road I'm lucky today' guys. And because I happen to live in a country that's suffering a huge financial crisis; the politicians ate the money (/developers responsible for bugs) , the few are paying (/normal players getting punished for 'robbery'). Who's the true culprit here ?

    5. ''We are all committed to improving the overall game balance and fairness of the game, so we are grateful for all reports and suggestions made that help us to achieve this.''


    Back to 1.
    The last people that can talk about fairness in this game are, sadly, its developers.

    It all reminds me a bit of fascism.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not upvoting the bug exploits, but I can't have hope to the developers anymore. They're not seeing or trying based on what they're seeing. The game is dying for 4 years now and they still believe what they doing is fair and good for everyone. The x-2/x-3/x-4 maps are dead in all servers. New players are non-existent, and the ones remaining are bullied all the time. The game lacks updates, updates beneficial to ALL and not to the rich.

    EDIT: Please move this thread to 'Games Discussion & Feedback', I posted it here by fault. Thank you.
     
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  2. I can't agree more on this. That's the reality, lower maps are empty.

    For everything else you have said, it's your personal opinion. If you ask me, they shouldn't have touched the LoW gate at all. What they call a bug on the Falcon, is a normal behavior of every NPC on every map. So, I don't see what is the problem with this, really. I have posted the same thing on the feedback thread when they asked about opinion on the LoW gate, but still, they did remake.
     
  3. This punishment is absolutely ridiculous. Players are essentially getting banned due to developer incompetence. Although I don't support bug users, and I never used this exploit I am furious as this will affect the wider game.

    How can you allow bugs in game for upwards of half a year and hand out punishments afterwards?
    Why didn't you monitor and ban these users when this bug was first reported?

    Now if this is a server wide ban wave it will strip out at least 50% of all players.

    Fuming.
     
  4. In other words, watch for some players to dissapeer...

    I will be glad when they fix the problems with game play.:rolleyes:
     
  5. Yes of course you will but do you know how many people exploited the bug? They will ban a dangerous amount of people.
     
  6. Why you call it a bug? It is not a bug. It's normal NPC behaviour, if we are talking about the Falcon.. :)
     
  7. Ddraig

    Ddraig bp_phrase_Forum_General

    Hi all,

    I have moved this post to Speakers corner however will be keeping a close eye. If the thread get's out of hand the thread will be closed without warning. Therefore please keep civil and mature.

    ~Ddraig
     
  8. `Luke

    `Luke User

    I agree with this, Bigpoint has a rather long history of having unbelievably many bugs every time they release something new. So I assume next update they do and there is a major bug that benefits people because the update was not properly tested, its the players that will get banned.
     
  9. Look at it this way:

    The botters who lost PP and upgrades and kept all their LF4's, Havocs, and Hercules, and UFE status, and who took the mick by abusing the system once again, have just got what was coming to them.
     
  10. pecanin

    pecanin User

    160.000 x 365 =58.400.000

    58.400.000 x 3 = 175.200.000

    That is how much uridium was made by most persistent boters...2010 ...till you sort of "punished" them

    So spare us your outrage on this little bit of cheating Big Point

    I'm just sorry i didn't know about this little exploit

    another one of your achievements

    44.000.000 X4

    That is how much ammo was made by one user who abused cubikon graveyard bug since hangars came out till you stopped it few weeks ago ...

    that guy is Admin on certain other forum

    No wonder players now exploit all bugs they find....with your actions you told them that it was O.K


    So once again spare us your little games of "ban free player for something others have been getting away with for years"

    Grow up or ban those three clans on GE1 ...you know ones made from Mods/Admins ...ones that have been cheating since they started playing
     
  11. Jurjstyle

    Jurjstyle User

    From my knowledge , the users weren't banned for the ,,old low bug" . They were banned for a new low bug .. with warps and hangars you can somehow activate the relays and kill the falcon solo . So 15k uri per falcon in probably 30 minutes .
     
  12. I look at it this way. The game has cost me over almost 2 million uri in jpa screw ups and ta screwups, that ive never gotten back and will never get back. So if those players are guilty of stealing uri so to speak isn't DO just as guilty of stealing from us? for not giving us our uri back for all the screw ups? how about the million uri our clan spent keeping up our battle station because of a dark orbit glitch! all we got was a sorry for the inconvenience. So my question is who is really stealing from who more often? the players or dark orbit themselves. Hey if you can keep up with who took advantage of the low gate bug and how much uri they made from it, that must mean all the times we got the answer to a question about keeping track of what happens in the game which was (there is no way of knowing that kind of stuff) must have been a lot of blowing smoke right? yeah they exploited it, but we get exploited a lot to. just fix the issue again and give those players a break.

    They also talk about fairness and game balance lol. Lets talk about fairness and balance and base it off one point Hercs and Havocs. some ppl only had to build 15 gates or less to get all havocs or hercs. Other players took as many as 50 some poor soules took 90 or more gates of each to get those designs. Where is the fairness and balance present there?
     
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