Drone Formation Feedback Thread

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  1. NO, NO,NO,NO,NO,NOOOOOOO whyy u put the formations in the game????? :((( u ruined the game finally :( this game is over :(((....................
     
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  2. i havent used any of them yet but here are my first thoughts & ideas for improvements

    DOME
    pathetic, needs to be buffed
    0.1% regen should be at least 0.5%, or higher but with a limit like diamond
    50% laser damage reduction is too much, the inability to move is a big enough drawback. this should be decreased to 20-30%

    DRILL
    overpowered
    the previous best increase in PvP laser damage by a formation is 3%
    20% is too much, especially since its both PvE & PvP, this should be reduced to 10-15%
    or/and the drawbacks should be increased
    shield spread* and speed reductions should be increased to 10%
    instead of 25% shield reduction it should be 25% health reduction

    *by shield spread does it mean how much it absorbs, or is it something else and im missing something?

    RING
    possibly overpowered
    180% seems like too much. ufes can already have 1.5+mill shield per config. with this formation thats around 6 mill shield altogether
    100% increase is more than enough

    VETERAN
    i think there should be an xp increase as well
    20% reduction is probably too much but itd be only used by very strong players so idk

    WHEEL
    i wasnt too keen on anything that increases speed but the drawbacks seem fair imo

    WAVE
    doesnt do anything but costs credits. not much else to be said

    X
    i wouldnt use it personally but itd actually be pretty good for newbs.
     
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2015
  3. Ok, I'm ok with most of the formations, but the one with +180% shields is ridiculous no matter what type of hinderance it has on it.
    That seriously needs to go down to like 50%
     
  4. .Wagon.

    .Wagon. User

    They released the formations before changing them after reading our feedback.

    Now (in future) I'm pretty sure that they'll change the stats again. Funny that after people buy them, they will make changes in them, making some of them useless for the price we paid.

    Thats the kind of business they intend to do. I'm sure they can never balance this game, no matter what they do.
     
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  5. ßőŋεѕ

    ßőŋεѕ User

    More like BP/DO trying to balance their own books after that ££$$ 200,000,000 takeover, they must of made that back in the 1st year of (Booty Key LF4) scheme. Put An end to Austerity!!!
     
  6. THE WHEEL: is interesting, but I won't pay 150k uri to box faster ! ( and for pvp maybe not worth it)...

    THE DRILL
    : I feel like the extra damage outweighs the loss of speed for drill. In a Suicide Vengi, you can kill people fast as it is....now add 20% damage. I think all but the toughest people would pop before they could run....then I activate speed boost:D

    I still think the moth/heart combo is the best for PvP....(maybe have drill to finish the fight, after your/their shields are gone??)....I suppose its annoying that some people will use this tactic.....another item to buy for just one part of a fight.

    That's the real way all these (old and new) formations work.....It's not one or the other you need...But 4-5 that you need to use in succession in a fight for best results....
    (Heart--->Moth/Pincer---> Diamond/Drill--->Wheel, to run if losing) .....sigh more uri lolz.

    THE X: They should raise the damage done for PvE to at least 5% if not 10%. Any higher though, and instead of a formation to help noobs farm, it would be a UFE cube farming formation (which is not what it's meant for, especially for credits).

    THE REST: are what they are.....either impractical, underpowered, or for a specific ship (cough citadel).
     
  7. They have to nerf ring thats only worth for stupid wallet warriors that got tons of ammo to use. They just put it and shoot x4 rsb and u need 500 rsb to pop them and its not worth at all for a free player.. Others seems to be ok but ring need to be nerf to 80% or so or just make no dmg for pvp cause it will just destroy this game and most players will quit cause u wont get any kill and use ammo for nothing is not worth
     
  8. Ring formation is way too overpowered. It should be used as a support design, ideally with a Citadel. If you have 180% shield increase, you shouldn't have much if any laser damage. I've been fighting people using the Ring, who have 1.5-3 million shields, and are still hitting 110k combos. I think it's ridiculous, and ultimately 1 of 2 things will happen. Either everyone will buy it and use on each other and nobody will ever die, or the people that have bought it that hunt in groups will cause the smaller groups to quit the game. It's not so much a skill design, there is no skill in having 180% more shields. Let alone 1 person having to fight 5 people running the Ring. Just pointless. Damage needs to be nerfed down to 0, and it be used as a support design, or shields need to be nerfed down to like 80%, I think that would be fair, because Drill, and moth would be able to counteract it.

    All the other formations seem to have their perks and drawbacks. Like others, I am not really sure what Dome does.. seems a bit redundant.

    Wheel is a great idea but seems to be glitched, as I see people in Goli's using it, and their speed increasing to about 40%, not 5%.

    Drill I think is overpowered too to some degree.

    The major problem is Ring formation, and people will see this overtime when fighting in groups. Even with the Drill the way it is, Ring still overpowers Drill, and that's a big a problem.

    I won't be playing this game anymore until it's fixed. And while I may only seem like a needle in the haystack to Bigpoint, I'm a front pager on a big top server.. I wouldn't wanna lose valuable players like myself, but it is what it is.

    --

    Other than that, the 3D update is good for the most part. Game play is smooth usually, sometimes it gets laggy in big fights, but that's probably because my graphics card sucks.

    I have never complained about anything in the 5 years I've been playing this game. Not the pet or the Kami nerf, not the original damage/shields when upgrades first came out, not Havoks/Hercs, or being able to obtains LF4s. It's a competitive game, and that I like.. but Ring formation is just ridiculous.
     

  9. See you later bud. When fighting in groups, almost any formation or lack there of can be an obstacle to over come. I am so trying to figure out why players get in here saying they will not be back until there is a change. More room for me to roam. :rolleyes:
     
  10. TOO MANY FORMATIONS....AAAHHH...pulls hair out :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Yea ring is major problem for me too. I dont have any problems with other formations cause they seem to be good whereas ring is overpowered. First of all it will make fights useless cause with that much shield ppl will barely pop cause portal is not that far away for 1.8m shields. I would suggest to make that formation a PvE formation only causing no damage to other players cause in that way it will only affect newbies and new players helping them run from strongest. Also i saw in my server USA East 1 one of Jackpot Winners being owned by a group of ppl with ring formation and he couldnt pop any of them... As far as i remember same guy used to pop those guys that had ring formations in a 3v1 or so or if they were 4 or 5 he would have popped 1 or 2 at least bit he found 2 of them attacked and was useless cause shields were really high ... Please nerf ring cause it will bring end of game like it is now
     
  12. Abner3

    Abner3 User

    X Formation: I would not help any noob out with the stats that it currently has. I say it should give a credit boost and increase shield by 25%. I especially like the no pvp dmg on it.

    Drill Formation: I see too many hard hitting ufe using suicide config with this. Add a 10-5% hp decrease and it should be fine.

    Ring Formation: 150% shield increase, 5% speed decrease, 50% dmg decrease, 50%+ rocket/launcher cooldown

    Veteran Formation: Add some sort of ep bonus and nerf by changing from 20% to 30%

    Dome Formation: Useless formation, needs complete overhaul since it is similar to diamond formation
     
  13. ronz

    ronz User

    Introduction of these new drone formations have ruined the game already , 180% to shielding and 20% to laser damage.
    What was Bigpoint thinking?
    By far , this is the worst Bigpoint has done, noobs won't stand a chance and in some time everyone here will be flying around in a Pusat , Spear or Vengi and use these formations and with the including of a speed formation + and Vengi super afterburner thing, it'll be even more difficult to go after them and then there's the 180% increase to shielding??
    How on Earth are people supposed to kill anyone with that , Suppose Moth would be okay for this but for those that don't have the adequate equipment IE LF4s or formations.... Judgement day has arrived RIP noobs including me self lol.
     
  14. Wheel formation needs to GO, it should not exist, this is a PvP game, not a run like a panzy little girl game. Wheel is already destroying PvP with constant runners who can't fight.
     
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  15. Ring.. Ring... Lol. By my estimations if you have every type of shield boost now in game, including sentinel ability can have 7-8~ mil shields per config, if surrounded by shared boosters as well, making defending bases an interesting thing.... Hehehe SAB mines are gonna be a bit more used I bet
     
  16. Fly a sentinel with hercs and use heart/moth. Squat on a DDM if you can and then ISH, SMB, and kami (and your ability). Let your opponents die with 1 mil shield left out of 2, that will leave Ring wearers feeling silly I bet.

    It's just like rock paper scissors now,

    Moth counters Ring.....Ring counters Drill....and I suppose Drill counters Moth a bit....and of course Wheel for the rabbits to run in heh !

    UFE's will get to play around a little more now, without any serious problems.... It's the noobs who are gonna take the pain from these new formations, facing enemies with either extra power, shields, or speed..... but that's they way it's always been I guess.
     
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  17. 2 UFEs were chasing me and shooting me with moth i jumped port and survived then came back and popped em all so it is overpowered and should be changed or when u get a kill u will be a legend :p
     
  18. *Boots*

    *Boots* User

    Way to address the REAL problems in this game. Try a little less drone formations and a little more game economics fixing. You could make that 1% damage increase to pve(I suppose this means against NPC only) into a 70% increase. It would certainly help.
     
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  19. imapoofya

    imapoofya User

    Yes that's certainly adressing the real problems, the ability to 1-shot a BK.
     
  20. Drill and Ring seem to be only useful formations among new ones at pvp fights, and wheel seems pretty useful too.

    Dome ... i dont think many will want to use it, since its completely immobile, and regeneration rate is really low. It should have at least little speed. I guess 75% speed decrease would be fine.

    And regeneration rate is also little too low.



    And X ... I was waiting for great rocket formation, but now it's just pure crap. 1% boost to laser damage wont help anyone.

    On top of that cons are really bad. No honor and no pvp power at all... Really?
    You cant even defend your self if this formation is on. o_O Damage should be at east standard.
    Cons are like punishment for buying this crappy thing.

    It's so bad formation, that you should be paid to have it, rather than get it for cheap price.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2015
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