Extend Leo benefits for battle maps

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  1. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    I'd like to see the Leo continue to remain powerful in GG and battle maps. I was called into the battle maps for a challenge and noticed the leo was weak.
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2014
  2. Full_force

    Full_force User

    Its weak for a reason in maps outside its lower maps.
     
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  3. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    Yes it is, isn't time for change?
    I'm just glad that i didn't find this out in gg.
    I'm gonna add that to the post as well.
     
  4. Full_force

    Full_force User

    Still no.
     
  5. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    Please explain why.
    I'm not saying to allow it to be strong in the upper company maps, I'm saying to let them stay strong in the battle maps and gg.
    In at least gg there is no reason to not have it strong there.
    As far as I've been told pvp is not possible in gg maps.
     
  6. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Why should its benefits be extended to battlemaps? The only reason seems to be that you jumped in to a bmp, found that the bonus goes away and died. That isn't a good reason. You have to at least give a good reason why it should change other than the equivalent of "just because".

    The leonov got its bonus to help new players for a cheap price and allow strong players to easily defend noob maps, if you want to do a GG or get out of lower maps then get another ship in a different hanger ...
     
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  7. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    Have they started handing out hangers for free or something?
    I am the noob that can only have one ship at a time.
    The goli I am in is mostly lf-2's and A-03's.
    Making it possible for the leo to remain strong in gg and pvp maps would be the best bet for noobs like me to have a fightng chance in this PvP game that most of u are all too anxious to point out.

    U guys really don't think this would help?
     
  8. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    I'll be blunt to you, if you cannot afford the uridium to get a second hanger, you are useless in a GG or in PvP, sorry.

    Work on getting your equipment good enough to get out of the leonov and into something better so you can start doing the upper maps quests.
     
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  9. If you really think about it, the goli remains strong over that leo...
    Besides, the leo was just meant to be used in low maps, no where else. If you want a strong ship that can go anywhere else, get a vengi/goliath with a decent amount of drones, and you got a ship that is stronger than the same things in a leo.
     
  10. Jurjstyle

    Jurjstyle User

    Leonov doubles everything on the ship , so is the best ships for lower maps ... . A vengeance can't be that good in lowers . A goli can but it needs equipment like for 2 leonov + something . + the leonov has the best damage with rockets , especially with chevron and plt - 3030 is hell ... As for a noob , he must get 6 lf3 , 6 b02 and 6 gen 7900 to equip his leonov full ... than irises . May be it should have a bonus for his 4-x map but not like it have in the x-1 - x-4 maps . And for Gates,uppers you have goli and aegis .
     
  11. jackknife

    jackknife User

    Pause.. a vengi is great in the lowers. It will outrun almost all except those two shoot killers scum who hunt new players. I have bought a leo sold it bought a vengi and a hanger, stopped using the leo and bought a goli which still sits in dry dock waiting for more........
    I would hate running around with a undervalued goli.

    a leo is a great little ship and will make it easier for a new player and that is what it is for. The lower levels only.
     
  12. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    So if a noob was using a leo and wanted to do gates for the resources to get the fully battle ready goli, they are just s.o.l. considering the best ship they can get is useless in battle maps and gg?

    Why does it have to continue that way?
    I read that an under valued goli is a waste, I agree but wouldn't it be equally shameful to continue to dis allow the best noob ship in the game to be so useless in gg and battle maps to earn what is needed to progress in this game?

    I understand the complaints if the bonus was continued in the upper company maps but gg and battle maps?
    The maps where at least the fledgeling pvp pilots can have a chance to prove their willingness to fight and earn while they are in one of the best ships they can posses.

    Please guys be reasonable, this game needs reasonable forum members.
     
  13. I like to say NO to this idea.

    Why?

    1. Leo was made to be ship for new players, and new players really enjoy it's bonus in the home maps.
    2. If you want battleship, there is Vengeance, Goliath and even Aegis. They are made to be great in battle, and also in GG and NPC bashing around.
    3. Even if they give you this what you are asking, you won't be able to do GG with it anyways. For that, you need FE ship, you need good skill tree, at least first defensive row maxed out. Otherwise, you won't make to the mid of the GG. And yeah, you need maxed out Skylab too, so you can be boosted all the time when you play with Seprom and Promerium.

    This is why I say NO to this. :)
     
  14. NO leo is ment for lower and the bonus does not need to be extended for any reason
     
  15. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    1) So the reason the Leo won't be effective in gg and battle maps is becuz noobs enjoy them too much....
    2) The Vengi, goli and Aegis are already available to everyone whether they have the guns and generators or not to sufficiently arm them yet retain their combat capability....
    3) Even if they were allowed, they would not be capable to finish the gate?

    Sorry guys, not wanting it just because of these reasons is weak and selfish.
    Allow the Leo pilots to choose if they want to do these things.
    The decision should at least be theirs.
    I'm just saying that it would be cool for them to have this chance.

    As for the saying "it is that way for a reason" shouldn't the reason be discussed?
    I'm sure some reasons have changed with the times, I believe this is one of them times regarding the Leo.
     
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  16. No one needs to give Leo that stuff. Everyone already told you, you have ships that do that job and they are made to have that purpose you want to have. Leo may have bonus on rockets, but that won't change much. You can have Goliath and if you develop that PP points, you can hit pretty hard with rockets too.

    So again, big NO. No one needs Leo, plus it has low HP, low speed. It won't work.
     
  17. Noobs are not the only ones who use leos. I use them when I visit lowers at times, I like that extra rocket dmg.
    And the damage output is just slightly less than Goliath's and barely above vengi's (rocket damage bonus). If you take your leo items and put them on a Goliath, boom, you're better. Just use that, don't go making a ship meant for the weak, stronger.
     
  18. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    I the limited beyond belief way I did try using the same items in a goli that I have in my current Leo and the results were disappointing.
    Telling me to do what I need to do to make any ship stronger pretty much sucks considering I need the Leo available in other maps to accomplish your unreasonable demands.

    Please try doing what u ask with unupgraded all noob items without the benefit of spending money or even revealing who u are.
    Then come back with ur reasons.
     
  19. I haven't nicked a single dime into this game, and I have already gone through what you have. Don't complain, don't show weakness, and no one will have a clue, you'll do just fine.

    Also, you do not need the Leo available in other maps. A full LF2 Leo is weaker than a full LF2 Goliath, regardless of what map.
     
  20. Omega

    Omega User

    Dreadlok at it again .u just never learn . ur seriously turning into vespid .dude no .that is meant to be for lower maps and only lower maps . that's why it has a bonus . other than that get a goli or a vengi .
     
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