Jumped from 3-4 to 1-4 and died

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  1. Hello! Well. I jumped from 3-4 after fighting a player into 1-4. Didn't touch my mouse after jumping and survived. then out of no where a set of x3 lasers opened up on me. lasers only, there WAS NO SHIP behind these lasers and I died. I am MMO, I should have had demil on the 1-4 port but when I rep'ed on the spot I was in the middle of the map? Now can you explain how I jumped from 3-4 to 1-4, Didn't touch my mouse therefore definitely didn't leave port but got dragged to the middle of 1-4 and got popped by a set of lasers with no ship? note* There was about 3 seconds from when I jumped to when I got popped mid map.

    Don't say lagg because Ive been running at 60fps all week, got a brand new high end gaming PC with 72mb/s internet connection. Plus lagg doesn't explain being dragged half way across a map.

    Thanks for any help you can provide. (Still don't agree taking drone damage to this. its the second time it has happened) The first time was jumping from 3-3 to 2-4 and apparently I got popped in 1-4...
     
  2. bug mate...
     
  3. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    I'm going to do it, I'm going to say lag.

    You described something that anyone who has played for a long time experiences; you jump port and lag as you jump so your ship carries on flying whilst on your screen you are sat on port.
    Internet connections are not a constant stream that can't change, sometimes they dip and ping will rise.
     
  4. This bug hasnt been seen for sometime. On the old client this would happen quite often, jumping, and being in the centre of the map after jump as far as the server was concerned, but clientside, you are at port.

    Gaming PC's don't have any impact on Flash based content, I have a Intel Core 2 Duo Quad Q6600 @ 2.4ghz which I have had for going on 6 years now, and I still pump out 61 FPS on DO.

    Also, PC hardware does not effect game lag, FPS related issues are CPU, GPU, and RAM related.
     
  5. Okapi32 how can it be lag if you end up dead 3 secunds from jumping port. there is no ship that can fly in 3 secunds from port to midle of map. that happend to me caple times before.
     
  6. I agree with Okapi, I also experiencing that kind of scenario and I can say that its a lag
     
  7. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    It probably wasn't just 3 seconds, this sort of thing has happened to loads of people and I've watched it happen to others.
    They jump port and immediately fly away, if someone kills them they accuse them of hacking most of the time.
     
  8. idk really. what i know is that i can do that if i want to fly fast from port right after jump and it never lag me to midle of map without me see my ship fly.
    so that is bug+lag together.
     
  9. Only takes a miscalculation of the system, as we know, DarkOrbit's code and scripts work via numbers and mathematics (%variables). On jump, the system only has to hiccup and the server will drop the ship in the wrong place server side, but not report it to the client.

    Like Okapi said, Ping fluctuation can cause this, if your ping suddenly shoots up, the server wont tell the client sod all for the entire time of the ping fluctuation (maybe up to 3 seconds).

    Also line Jitter is a common problem with ADSL lines.
     
  10. yes that is true. i think ship dont fly from port to midle of map, it jump to midle of map and fly back to port. even tho you see ship on port after jump it position is somvere on map and flying back to port where it shuld be.
     
  11. After jumping, when the lasers opened up on me I kept clicking port and there was actually a friend on the port who could see me. I jumped port and on my client I was sat in port, On his screen I was sat on port yet when I spot rep'ed I was mid map. Not to mention I was in a shield config so there is no way I could have flown mid map in 3 seconds. Plus the person in question who killed me has reportedly killed a few other people in the exact same manner. 5 minutes earlier I chased him across 3-4 to 3-2. after jumping out of 3-4 into 1-4 he kills me in mid 1-4? Try explaining that?

    Did he somehow guess I was going to jump into 1-4 and end up mid map?
     
  12. See I aint so sure that it is lag, the way I have experianced it and the way I have seen things happen to others is I believe it to be a game bug.

    My reason for this is for some reason the game don't register the map jump or something, because when ever these "end up being somewhere else" occurances happen, and I have seen plenty happen to people, their ship is technically trying to fly to the exact same place where the portal is on the map they jumped from.

    Like when I was going to kill a spearhead in MMO maps...we was in "1-3" BLP, he jumped portal and for whatever reason the game tried to take him to where that bottom left portal is but in 1-2 (If this makes sense, its hard to explain) which I followered him all the way down to where his ship stopped dead where a BLP would be if it was 1-3

    I have seen this happen to loads of VRU, like in 3-6 when we had war's or just NME, they would jump 3-8, but because its BRP in 3-6 there ships have headed towards Bottom Right corner, obviously not everyone will fly the entire distance, mainly because there connection might "kick in" sorta thing and they can stop themselves from heading too far in that direction

    I have maybe had it happen a few times to me, but I cant remember, and it dont happen often, but I observe and have noticed it happen to loads of people.

    I don't know why it happens, whether a lag spike or something causes it, but I think its a game bug more then anything being as the pattern I have explained sounds more like a game problem.

    *I will also add, when bots were around, I remember my friend mentioning this alot happening on bots, they apparently would jump portal after being attacked and start flying towards places like Top Right Corner which would be where TRP was in 1-7, they would then apparently die to NPCs because the bots would sit there trying to REP but wouldnt be able to.

    So its a bug thats been around a long time.*
     
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  13. bisphenol

    bisphenol User

    Very good explanation Ŝρаятαсΰs, I agree with the above. It happened to me at least 15 times and regularly when jumping under heavy fire.
    The ship is on the port, while the mini-map radar coverage is moving and though it appears my ship is on port, there's no DMZ text, the port button is inactive and I'm receiving damage from NPCs.
    If my pet is active at the time of bugged jump, it follows the ship and that is very obvious on the mini-map. All that time the "ghost" ship is apparently sitting on port.
    And thanks Ŝρаятαсΰs for the explanation of the directions in which the ship is heading - it is 100% consistent with my experience.
    No lag can explain a ship going to the base in opposite corner of x-1 map, seeing DMZ text then "Equipping is now possible", and after some 5 seconds the radar coverage "moves back" towards the port, "Equipping is not possible", DMZ disappears and - when radar coverage "reaches" port where the ship is sitting - the "split ship" merges into one, everything goes in sync and both port starts working and DMZ text appears.
    This takes more than a minute and a half, so it can only be a bug.
     
  14. So what you mean is for example: I jumped from 1-6 to 1-8 and my ships tried flying towards bottom right corner of 1-6 as in 1-8 the port is bottom right? If so thats not what has happened as I have jumped port and died in the map I was jumping TO. I was jumping into 1-4 and died after about 3seconds in the middle of 1-4 on a config with no speed gens. It is not possible in 3seconds to fly to mid map. I agree with what someone else said about a game miscalculation so its meant to jump me to 1-4 BRP but its miscalculated and jumped me elsewhere in 1-4. Just find it ironic it was right next to the nme I chased into vru x-2 map about 5 minutes prior to him killing me in mid 1-4
     
  15. bisphenol

    bisphenol User

    What Ŝρаятαсΰs meant, the ship travels to the coordinates of the port on the map from which you jumped, but that travel happens on the map to which you jumped.
    In your case, you jumped from top left port in 3-4, and the ship started traveling to the top left port in 1-4. So it have to pass near the center of 1-4 map.
    How you came so fast to the center is another question...
     
  16. No if you jumped from 1-6 to 1-8 via blp...you would head towards blc not brp...

    Point being like that guy above mentioned...top left port in 3-4 would take you to top left port 1-4

    But then ive already gave an explanation of the bug type problem that does exist, I doubt your ability to count its as simple as that, ive known friends to have died somewhere in the map, usually mids but then mids is the direction which they would fly past with the map/portal lag

    If the coding was that crap I am pretty sure everyone would end up mid map when they Jump Portals, I don't think its miscalculation of anything, I think your ship lagged and was heading towards top left portal, its rather clear to me but I cba explaining or trying to explain, uve had loads of examples either way.
     
  17. Oh yeah , happened to me once too, Ijumped from 3-3 to 2-4, then when jumping, I lagged and frozed so I relogged. Then when I was back, My ship end up at the top left port o_O instead of bottom left port. This has happened to me more than 21 times.
     
  18. bisphenol

    bisphenol User

    That's consistent with the current "hypothesis" - jump from the top left port in 3-3 moved the ship from bottom left to top left port in 2-4 without your intervention.

    The fact that you lagged doesn't mean the lag caused it, as I didn't lagged but watched my radar coverage and PET moving on the minimap and receiving hits from NPCs while apparently being on port. But after several seconds the ship "realized" it is at the wrong port and started moving back towards the correct port - where my "ghost" ship was sitting on the screen.