LF4 Day a scam??

Only 2 lf4?? ONLY?? Thats a crazy good amount of lf4 for 125 bootys..

Oracle

Gb1

 

Hmm,thats pretty good.

 

I heard from support about the this once. They said the chances were already rare, the event makes them a little less rare lol.
My tip to all that works for me anyway is the MMO map 1-7.
On GA2 and GB2 I won the majority of mine in 1-7.
One LF-4 event day for example I spent 25 keys for a total of 3 LF-4, 2 of which came from the bottom part of 1-7.

 

I got 2 apis parts out of 3 bootys on 2-7 lol.Seems the 7 maps are the best


Oracle

Gb1

 

We all can't be elite pvpers like you now, can we?

 

Well, for me personally, the LF-4 day gives me alot of luck...already have 24 LF4-s, 20 of them from bootys at LF-4 day...so it works for me (most of them i get at pvp maps (4-1,4-2,4-3))

 

LF 4 day is random...I used 150-200 keys on a couple different LF4 days ...and usually got one from 150...

BUT ONE TIME ...I used 60 keys and got 5 LF4...go figure....

 

Can you tell me about the 60 keys...do you collect them in one map, or many maps and the second question - you collect them in one time or in different parts of the day ? Thanks in advance !

 

If you're buying keys its useless if you're doing gates and using those keys then good to go.. you'd have gotten them anyway with the gate.. and the gates sometimes give you lf4 anyhoo... STOP buying keys if you don't want to waste your money.. collect palladium get gates and do them

Boots

 

SO did you use the lf4 day this time round ?

If not, then your information is anecdotal, from historic events. So it has little or no bearing on the current situation.

We typically see better results for the first few events.

Sometimes people exaggerate what they get or give selective information to make DO look better than reality, for some misguided reason, maybe they are just in denial of reality with how DO truly treats its customers.

We all know that booty box loot has changed over time and we are never given a specified probability rate for any items in the boxes.
Not that that matters because the gate probabilities which is specified do not compare with reality these days.

The LF4 day, may well give double the lf4s compared to normal, but with an unspecified normal, it could be a sales tactic. We often see a 50% off sale price, is from a 200% mark up price, so the net result is, its the standard price not a cheaper price.

However with an anecdotal normal yield of 1-200 boxes, so 1-100 on an LF4 event, then getting 2 or 3 in 100 spins or getting none in a few hundred spins would not be unexpected, but when a number of players are all seeing no lf4s from hundreds of boxes then it starts to look like something is not right.

 

Hahah, if you are going to tell me that my results are invalid because I didn't do them in the most recent event then provide proof that they have changed over time, if not then your claim is worth nothing.

Also the actual coding of the gates states what the odds are, down to the percentage of each ammunition drop and gate parts are 13%, for every single gate, I could post it if you like. Just make sure you see it before the mods delete it.

 

cant say how much uri I have bought but I had used like 500, and i have 33lf4 to lv 16 19bo2s to lv 16 I just need to hercules more.. is not that hard to get, i got like 29 lf4s from booties the rest is from kappa.. i doubt i used 2700 keys to get 29 lf4s cuz 500 dollars are not enough to get 31 at lv 16 it just takes you around 3 millions to upgrade 31 to lv 16... so i think i spent less than 2700 keys... to have 70 lf4s idk why would someone feel great for that since you only need 45 which you never use, at the end u end up using 40 or even less, 70 dont make any difference... but yeah yall people think is hard cuz you wanna be free players but actually if you were to low map in one hour you would get around 15k to 20k uri and work it at least 3-4 hours would be fine in a month you could get 15-20 lf4s...
I still agree BP has been if i could say "pranking" us for a long time.... and yeah...

something else i wanna add: There was a time where i got two lf4s one after another on like 30 seconds.. and then other times where i would get 1 every 20 keys... I guess i was lucky from what i hear from yall

Oh something else, who ever does not believe me you can ask Dream Demon I had less lf4s and less equipment thatn him, basically what im trying to say its that he watched me grow...

 

Zenn heres the thing if people where getting anything close to what you say we wouldn't be having this thread.The problem is people are working hard to to get LF-4s
and paying good money on gates and booties still no luck.The few remaining people we
have left are feeling greased.Myself I have filled another hanger full of LF-3s and speed
gens. and When I do kappa's its boosters or nothing.Zenn I think If th roles were reversed you would be singing a different tune.When you say you got 70 for less than
2700 I believe you because there are people out there have gotten maybe 7 for the same amount.Like you said you don't even need 70.This LF-4 thing needs to be balanced back out

 

lol i never said i got 70 lf4s, i said i have 33 of them.
I also spent good money on this game, but I just realized that it takes a couple of months to have a decent amount of lf4s of course if you know how to work that time.
you all do not need to spend what i spent, all you need is 20 bucks and be collecting bonus boxes both your pet and you, now i spent money because i dont have time to play, but yall should get a doubler package and start collecting, cuz all you all do is get some uri and wast it on cloaking or stupid stuff,,, you all need to save it and quit playing after a month or two you will see the difference..
really getting nothing and only boosters from kappa? lol on my first four kappas i got 4 hercules then an lf4 then another hercules and then i started getting some hercules some lf4s and mostly nothing and boosters, right now i have 8 hercules two more and im done... but yeah is kind of hard i would say its harder to get all the hercules and havoc...
actually i used to do zetas since is the best gate for a noob(im not anymore) but out of 13 zetas i got 3 havoc so i decided to do kappas wich worked better for me i have done like 24 and 8 hercules with some lf4s and somtimes some useful multi boosters and a lot of nothing lol...
its juts a matter of trying not complaining.. all ill say is that with the doubler you can get to make almost 20 k uri per hours 4 hours = around 80 k uri if you work if no then ur lost now thats like 800k every 10 days in a month is 2.4 millions of uri... i bet with that u can get at least 15 lf4s or even more...

 

Hahaha, I am saying your historical result are not valid, when debating the current yield for Booty box content.
Fact there are many post quoting the amount of good content when things like booty boxes first come out, compared to subsequent content . If we still had the search option from the old forum I would post loads of related posts,
But even then, there have been post like =[sputnik]= 1 bill gate spin simulator thread that have been anonymously manipulated removing key data.

Okapi32 for what ever reason you blindly post DO defending propaganda, which is often show to be just that.

I base my posts on the available current data, compared to the data that was available at the time new upgrades are introduced.

I could even reference the same gate code from May 2011.

Fact the code does not give "gate parts are 13%, for every single gate" as you quote.

Gates Alpha, Beta, and Gamma have significantly less part yield for each single gate.
I could post the code, but you can check for yourself.

We also know that there are at least bug / glitches, if not other reasons that the code you are referring to does not reflect reality.

We even know for a fact, that one account can be working as expected, while another account is not working as expected, on the same server at the same time, being directly related to Data at the server end.
So the code you are referring to is only part of the bigger picture, with individual accounts not conforming to the code you refer to, as a direct result of code at DOs end.

 

Ok so you are allowed to post claims with no evidence to back them up, yet when I say I found 28 LF4 using 2700 keys during a past event my result is automatically not valid due to it being a past event? Brilliant logic.

If I had agreed with me you would be sucking up to me instead. You have no evidence of any of your claims so please, prove yourself right before saying others are either lying or saying they are irrelevant.

By all means post this "current data" if and when you ever find it.

I'm not defending DO, I'm defending myself from your claims that me finding my LF4 on an LF4 event has nothing to do with a thread about LF4 events ...

You say my results are invalid because they are from the past yet you are basing your own claim here on code from 2011? Good one.

I am looking at the current code right now, part percentage is 13%. There is no if or buts, every time you use a galaxy gate spin you have a 13% chance of picking up a part.

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I realise you're trying to prove a point, but please don't do that again... next time WILL carry warning points.
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By all means take a screenshot of this post, it won't be around for long I suspect. Hopefully you can read code and actually understand that the percentage is indeed 13% as DarkOrbit says it is.

 

If what you are saying is correct I would do A,B,Y gates all day long as the we would be getting the equivalent of 39% gate part in total.

The code you post does not give the who picture. here is the same code from 2011 for A,B,Y,D

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Fact the code changes over time. see above

Fact the code we have posted does not reflect the whole picture.

Fact different account on the same serve can been having different issue directly related to the DO server data.
So that can be extrapolated to any account can have a different outcome to the code as shown.

 

Great! 2011 ≠ 2014
I posted the current code and it does not have what you have highlighted in the 2011 code. Your own logic after all is that anything in the past is no longer relevant and should be automatically discarded ^^

Sure I understand you are just trying to be a picky as possible in a vain attempt to prove me wrong because I said the word "every" and you know exactly what I meant, I'm just surpised you have said the phrase "in my cynical view" to top it off.
For each spin you have a 13% chance of getting a galaxy gate part, that's how it's always been and that how it is right now.

What I find more amusing is you arguing over code you don't even know how to get to ...

 

My posting the data from 2011 was to show that the code has changed directly relating to gates. I was not suggesting that the historic code shows how anything was today. So it is relevant to the debate.
Especially to show anecdotal historic data is not relevant to current yield from chance items.

Are you still trying to maintain that the Alpha gate yields 13% the beta gate yields 13% and the Gamma gate yields 13% your post "gate parts are 13%, for every single gate". ?
If I was you I would have conceded that point.

You are still missing a key point in your argument here and it is not "in my cynical view" it is a fact:-

One account playing at the same time as another account on the same server, can react differently from another, Directly related to the server, not the individuals PC or connection. Such as a function working of not working.

So the code you posted is without question only part of the picture. Each account can respond differently to that code. Therefore the code does not guarantee that an account or accounts reacts in the way the code is describing.

 

Are you trying to say that chance is a factor here and that some people will just get luckier? If you are then yes, that is the entire idea of there being a percentage chance of getting a certain thing every time you use a spin.

Chance is actually a very common factor in this game, you may or may not have noticed that. What isn't a factor is different levels of chance for different accounts, it's the same for everyone.
If it is written in the code of the game then that is how the game works, there is no two ways about it. The game only works the way it does because of the code.
If chance wasn't a factor then it would just be, every time you use 100 spins you will get 13 gate parts. However it's down as a percentage chance per gate spin, exactly as the code says it is ...

I'm not missing any points here, I just don't think you understand the code and how it is written, I'll say it again, you are arguing over something that you don't even know how to access.