Multi-Company Clans - What to do?

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  1. 1. Free company swap period followed up by removing MCC. But no more multi-company allances. Do this at server merge and you will help the Game .
     
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  2. Odin®

    Odin® User


    No Free Switching ...

    NO but heck no period
     
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  3. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
     
  4. Odin®

    Odin® User

    No to a free company swapping... from any server or any user ... you want to play you pay the 50% honor loss
     
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  5. snuffout

    snuffout User

    I believe MCC should be eliminated. Most cause more problems for regular players than they create portals for friends to play. Personally I feel if your pals and want to fly together then join the same company as it serves no GOOD purpose to be in different ones. Also if you feel the true need to hook-up then you have always had the option to group, while maintaining all the basic kill rules.
     
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  6. First, I mean no offense.

    Second, I know you are from east1 like me(at least you have been there in the past), and I don't blame you for thinking this way, BUT that is not what they are looking for, they want a solution to the whole problem....


    so your stance can't be seriously considered in light of what they are asking us as players. You have to give a little to get a little, even an old woman like me knows that. I know how bad it is for us in east1 that aren't part of the clique, I'm not putting down you or your opinion, just saying it's a bit impractical at this point. We got to give them something, all of us need everyone playing that we can have playing, or the game will continue to die off.

    We have to bend in the wind a little or we shall surely break.



    Harley Quinn AKA Cherokee Woman-East1
     

  7. pfffft you're fooling yourself, lots of folks complaining about the MCCs are tired of bully-minded people who ruin EVERYONE else's experience, not just being whiners, I've been in MCC's, I know what you guys talk about and plan, you can't fool me LOL
     
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  8. Blasphemer

    Blasphemer User

    Any of the solutions you have provided would do us good, but none of them will fix the event problems, because you will still have the same groups of friends that ruin the events for others. I haven't participated in any events on my server for literally YEARS, because these groups dictate who plays. I also have stopped completely in spending money here. I feel ripped off when I spend money on this game, and am not able to do events. It is not fair. In my opinion, there IS no fix for MCCS.........the same players are still gonna be there.
     
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  9. Okay so why are the BULLIES not bending on this subject? It has already been reported, on some servers, they have done exactly what they said they would do if D O tried to do anything about them, THEY CREATED 2 NEW CLANS, and since they are all still friends they will continue their rampages of the EVENTS and maps and NOW there is nothing that can be done about them.

    I have stated many times, that it is not the MCC that is the problem but the MENTALITY that SOME have accrued THEY OWN THE SERVER and no one is going to stop them. This is further shown by them disbanding the Clan into 3 different Company Clans that will continue to do things just like they have for years NOW.

    There is only ONE way to deal with this and prevent further loss of players in servers, MERGE the BULLY PLAYERS onto ONE SERVER, they will be with LIKE minded players, able to TRY to run the SERVER and have people to kill at will, this leaving the game minded player to enjoy the game and maybe even get some of the rewards from the Events in the future. I find I stay out of the game during EVENT times as it is just a fodder collection for the NON-UFE to try to get anything out of them. But this is my opinion and we all know what they say about OPINIONS, they are like our backsides (cleaned up so it would not be "REMOVED") we all have one and they all stink. Call me a whiner all you want but anytime you have a group of BULLIES ruining a game they just need to be taken out of the game, and this should happen on a quarterly basis IF D O plans on keeping the servers they have after the MERGE is completed or they will be doing it again next year, after the weak further depart the game as they can not do anything with the more populated "MERGED" servers and have to fight even harder for what they get in the future, with or without the MCC's.

    To me this MERGE is just the first of many as the game continues its uncontrolled spiral into the black hole of outdated games, don't get me wrong here, I do like D O and it is the only ONLINE Game I play, but with the constant Glitches/Bugs/Exploits and even failures to activate (voucher code for today is an example) items there is nothing to keep people interested in the game if they do not implement some kind of Same Company Protection from attack, this is where the MCC's have excelled in the game and where they crossed the line of "friends playing together" and Bullies. Friends playing together would group up 2 companies and attack the third in a hunting party, or all 3 would go into the Uber/Pirate map and destroy all of the NPC's in there including Players but be restricted to enemy not "same company" (S C) attacks, I feel that once you fire on the S C player IF you still have a lock on them when they DIE you collect the negative Honor for the KILL no matte if you fired first or not, this would also solve many of the WARS that are declared as you could no longer get the "ACCIDENTAL" lock on a S C Ship, locking the Ship would still be available for Chat or Group functions and the WIZ rocket but any offensive attack would be negated.

    I think the last Event I was involved in was the Killer Pets, over 2 years ago, I am buying Premium as I use my PET for Kami, but the rest has gone away, Doubler and its failures lately is a waste, Rebate for 1 week (IF I ever collect enough Uridium from the game) to buy anything from Shop or PET Slots, but at most $8 USD per account max of $40 a month when I was good for over a grand a year in the good times. But the upcoming MERGE has got me limited to just the Premium as any investment into an account that MAY NOT survive the MERGE is a bad investment.
     
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  10. I'm sorry, I thought the whole point was to make it where they couldn't do this , I meant that the offer of a week or whatever to change company free of charge is a small price to pay for removing MCC's , because after being inside one, I despise them and think they should be removed and heavy penalties levied against anyone found trying to circumvent things in ANY way to continue the practice.
     
  11. They circumvented the 3 Company philosophy of the game and what is going to change this in the future? These players will continue their control of any Event that is added to the Game and therefore need to be dealt with in a manner that prevents them from re-grouping at any time. So they become ONE Company Clan that does not change the attitude of "THIS IS OUR GAME" and we can do what we want in it. The only way to FIX the Game is to have these Players moved to a server with like minded Players, otherwise, they will continue just as they have in the recent years.
     
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  12. Sagturius

    Sagturius User

    I still think server portability would help the MCC issue as well. If we were allowed to change servers at will (for a high price like 200,000 URI or something), then people would have the freedom to leave servers poisoned by MCCs. I've have played USA 1, 3, and West Coast and my opinion in USA 1 is the worst. I would love to take my USA 1 ship/account to another server. *** Hi Galadriel / Cherokee :p
     
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  13. The issue you will find is that after paying such a HIGH price to "PORT" to another server you have the same issue and should have stayed where you already knew the Clans to look out for.

    The only thing that would make this a feasible option is IF we KNEW players on other Servers (Who are honest) and would speak the truth about the server and MCC Status, BUT AGAIN it is creating a SERVER where people do not have to deal with the MCC (BULLIES) and thus is just like my idea of PORTING the Bullies instead.
     
  14. What has made the problem worse is the shared boosters/abilites/locks in the game. It was a HUGE mistake to allow ships to share that across maps. Now you have a red dot and 6-7 green/yellow thinking oh they are with me as they are not RED. Nope Red dot is maxed on boosters and the 'slave' ships are there to 'help'.

    Its funny when you find the hidden citadels and Solaces in the map that are just getting boxes.....
     
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  15. WAR we are at WAR with the other 2 companies

    what part of MCC is WAR :mad:

    I MEAN WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE A NIGHT OF KUM-MY-YA:eek::D and go MCC I guess
    but I dont think Ill participate that night THX

    AND that goes for alliances too
    That is, how can there be alliances BETWEEN COMPANIES when we are at WAR
     
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  16. There could be another idea of dealing with the bullies by taking away their advantage ... The advantage of the MCC is that no matter where you are, there will always be a fellow member backing you up no matter what company.
    My next idea would be disabling the attack towards same company pilots (i.e. EIC can NOT attack another EIC, UNLESS they are in separate clans that are at WAR). This should at least take away some of the power from MCC.
    And another idea would be an automatic change of company when applying to a clan that has a leader from other company ( if that makes sense) <<i.e. a VRU player joins a clan that has an EIC leader, the VRU player will automatically be changed to EIC company); this also should apply to existing members, all members of MCC should be transferred to the company that the leader is from.

    This is only my 2 cents on the topic, I have not thought of consequences by implementing these ideas so feel free to comment on it :D.

    Fly safe :).
     
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  17. This is the Same Company Protection I have mentioned previously.

    This is a simple item as all you do is make a change to the Clan Choices and whatever Company you are in is automatically assigned, BUT it does not resolve the issue of the FRIENDS Grouping together and doing exactly what they are doing now.

    AS SEEN in another post one server is already seeing the Clans breaking up into separate Company Clans so there is NO PUNISHMENT to be given by D O and when the server Merger is done they will GROUP UP and continue to be BULLIES during any Event or Hunting excursion.

    OH WELL, whatever is going to be done will be done and we will see how long the servers stay populated AFTER the MERGE, I say 6 months and they have to Merge again.
     
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  18. when a server goes from 2.5k people to 200 there is more going on than just MCC
    every time this game comes out with something new, the game loses players.
    MCC happened because there is no players. companies used to ban together to not let MCC happen.

    i left game for almost 2 years and only reason i came back is because they said they fixed CHEATING
    well, they fixed some of it but not enough for me to come back full time.

    also,
    being in a group should only be for clan members or even those in same company.
    not the way it is now where anyone can belong.
     
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  19. Odin®

    Odin® User

    I personally am not concerned about the MCC because there will probably NOT be a server merge anytime soon... More like server crashing during the switch , but to get a free ride for switching companies NO WAY . In total I switched 4 times in this game over the years and it cost me 50% of my Honor each time. So If I can hang with that so can [THEY].
     
  20. YES WE Understand how they became Out Of Control, MCC's have actually been here the entire time I have been in the Game (2010), but were kept in check by the Company Protectors who vanished with the addition of the AJP and other additions that forced them to have to spend on the game again, They thought they could rest easy just buying the ammo they needed after a MHH and the special ammo being in the shop. But to find they had to RE-FIT their ships again to stay at the top of the Food Chain was not acceptable to many of them.

    Give it another month as the Birthday TWITCH indicated they have a surprise coming to the CHEATERS very soon.

    Group has always been OPEN to ALL Companies and is usually a TRUCE between those Players while doing PvE Quests and in this should be allowed but the Same Company PvP needs to be prevented. I used it when I got to the quests that required me to Kill/Collect in enemy territories but basically so they could let the other players of the Company KNOW I was not there as a hunter but just doing a PvE/Collecting Quest and found this to work very well, or being in the Pirate/Uber maps and we both need a little more than we have to kill the targets we were after.
     
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