Multi-Company Clans - What to do?

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  1. Do must want it lol and its basically pushing btw ..Devs knew what would happen with this event are they trying to ruin the game or make the remaining players do it for them ? Makes no difference clan or not you're own company will shoot you for the Enemy company if they are friends/scared to be against them like the wimps they are ;D
     
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  2. Only way to make this better is just remove the ability to aliance enemy clans and to join a clan that is not in you're own company (FULLSTOP) nothing more nothing less ........Which would either make them join the other company or leave the clan simple logic no need for any other type of idea
     
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  3. Hi All and DO,

    Well I open up this post again, to read and see what the new news is. As I was looking at the list of post I notice that this post has the biggest View of any post out there 18,381 views. That is a lot of people looking and reading this post. It must be important for so many to view. But that's not the only thing interesting too. There are 341 people have written a commit about this subject. There are 18 pages too.

    Now DO you have something that is amiss. You seem to have deaf ears or just blind and can't read. This topic is a game changer and the game needs to be change. There are so many Ideas and complaints about MCC.

    It is time to act, not sit on you hands. Fix the problem!

    I won't add anything because there are so many ideas here, and I have written my own ideas too. Just pick one and follow through because most if not all are saying the same thing and how to change things. You know the problem and fix it.

    Angus
     
  4. The "Viewings" are misleading as it is NOT the number of people looking at it, but every time it is opened by anyone. In my case I probably account for over 300 of them.
     
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  5. I was trying to adress the issue concerning how a single faction, keeping in mind how poorly populated some servers are, could shorty come to dominate an entire server, especially after the implementation of such a "free of charge" company swap, which would more or less be a necessity if we were to remove MCCs. Essentially, the same problem could emerge in a different manner if the proper course of action isn't taken.

    With that said, I forgot to address what you menitoned regarding clan pacts & alliances. It goes without saying that even these would have to be removed if the goal is to create a faction based PvP game. Thanks for the input ! ;)
     
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  6. I think its a no brainer.
    1. Period for free swap of company.
    2. Why have companies if you fight clans within those companies.
    3. Newbies get sick to death of being popped within their own zones by "company" members. "They leave".

    Its a choice each clan member can make.
    If you are a strong clan with the majority of members in one of the companies then change.
    Remember what "clan" means.
    Fight as a company the wars would be bigger and more enjoyable and the rewards remain the same.
     
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  7. Twotam1

    Twotam1 User

    A relatively famous individual once said "There is no try, only do."

    It is time for DO to do.

    Also, isn't it a goal of the game that your faction dominate?

    8808
    Scandinavia
     
  8. I'm part of a MCC and although some of the points are very valid for wanting them abolished (And i agree they shouldn't be needed) MCC clans were created, in essence, by DO being greedy and pandering to wallet wariors and ignoring the dying populace of new players.

    If you don't offer a free swap, we won't be swapping. I understand other players lost 50% honor to swap, but that was free choice. IF DO wants to break up a 7 year old group of friends, and put them into 1 faction then the free swap should be allowed. No question.

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    Also i'll mention, even if MCC are done away with, The server will still be ruled by whichever faction it choose's. MCC wasn't an end goal for most as a clan, but when the active population of the server goes from 1000+ to 1-200 a day, you tend to get players joining other players of there TZ / Game style / To simply take part in fighting without getting squished.

    There will also be ships left in other factions to kill people that leech cubes / Trash talk in chat or hop wars by becoming a free agent. I don't think there's any way that part of game play can be stopped.

    Get rid of MCC by allowing only 1 faction per clan, and offer incentives to be in the non dominating faction in the way of xp / honor buffs on pvp kill, heck even some form of uri / credits is okay by my clan.

    We just want a way where we can fight as a group of friends, together, without having people run there mouths or shoot our sub clan and us having no way to combat it.
     
  9. Odin®

    Odin® User

     
  10. Im say make company own clans not multi clans as it more easer to push ingame but if you keep multi clans put a close in it with a twist as ie if you are like me vru and join Dow clan witch is mmo and hunt with them make it where I carnt shoot a vru member and my my sheired boosters still de sheird with that vru member that would make the game more fairer for other player and it would make me and others happy
    wildstorm gb2

    may I state my letter [w] don't work on my key bourd so when in game chat i use number 3 as my w in chat have a good game and keep it pilots
     
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  11. Hi Twotam,

    "Also, isn't it a goal of the game that your faction dominate?"

    Yes that is the way it is, but with MCC it is many companies that are fighting as one clan. I have been flying around hunting aliens and saw a fellow company person. Sometime we make a group and fight together (this doesn't happen often). Sometimes we are just fighting aliens in the same sector. Then all of a sudden I'm surround by different companies and they are attacking me. Sometime my fellow company person joins them and sometime the person watches as I die. That is MCC in a nut shell. They don't care about honor or companies. They just like to kill others. They have big/many guns for a low level Pilot. You can't run because I try. Dead is Dead.

    I'm 18th level, but they have shields to my chevrons so I know they are higher level than me.

    Friends like that who need enemies?

    Angus
     
  12. Twotam1

    Twotam1 User

    It will be nice to play some day when MCC are no more.

    There seems to be many honorable players, just outnumbered by those that aren't.
     
  13. So since the event was 'company based domination'. And the TOS has a policy against pushing. I guess the MCC clan made up of VRU, EIC and MMO on EAST 1 have been punished and were not eligible to win the event?

    I mean its right out in front blatantly pushing the entire event with a guy in the clan unlocking the beacon and his buddies in VRU waiting to grab it. No big surprise who is in the group or that many of the ships are not the original 'ahem' pilots. Wonder how many are the same player who picked them up when the original owners quit?
     
  14. Hi All,

    I just don't know Marc.

    I would think you would get tired of killing for killing sake. Where is the fun and where is the skill? If you can't do it on your own or have to have your buddies holding your hand to kill someone. Then I guess that's make you the "MAN" in the game. I killed ## players, but he didn't say because we know he wasn't alone. He was part of the MCC. MCC are driving players away and mostly the new players that hasn't invested much in the game. That is why D O is merging sectors to have more players in a sector. Not to really fight MCC, but to save money. Why have a sector open for a few players?

    Angus
     
  15. IF u wanna know what to do for Multi company clans its so Simple make Shared enemy kils so if ur own company try to help enemy shoot u down they will lose honor like they shoot u down so simple :) it will be more fun to hunt also
     
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  16. Bakuryuha

    Bakuryuha User


    SO smart.. Loves this IDEAL!!
     
  17. Odin®

    Odin® User

    Some yrs back here on the USA East-1 server we had 3 factions/clans called [RPM] Red Planet Mafia / MMO , [GPM] Green Planet Mafia /VRU and the [BPM] Blue Planet Mafia / EIC .... Each of these clans were ranked 1 , 2 , 3 and were constantly competing for the #1 spot in ranking . Even today on my server RPM is ranked #1 as far as the MMO leader in Company Hierarchy.

    [​IMG]

    My point is that today's group of new players are impatient and seek their 5 mins. of Fame. For us 'Old School' players we are the ones that has turned the game into what it is today, In reality the game has evolved into MCC vs MCC vs MCC or better put Player vs Player.
    Just some weeks back I noticed that the General of MMO tweeted out in chat that she can do anything she wants to because she Pays for her account and no one else does.
    This General of MMO was once a Noob player in my clan many yrs. ago and I helped her get to FE status using clan credits. In doing so there were members in the clan that felt jealous of her for she was getting all the attention. So certain players in the clan would pop her when the clan on Sunday afternoon would go hunting.
    Needless to say she was totally ticked to the point she was ready to quit DO , but after several lengthy chats with her she saw that several of my members were willing to correct the clans internal feud by maneuvering the problem child into another company with success but was costly with the loss of the 50% honor for that maneuver which by the way was most costly to me and a few friends of mine to complete our objective .
    So you see there are Games within Games going on here inside of the DarkOrbit. On the last day of this yrs Domination Event I was going to be ass so to speak and mess with a certain clan that I am at war with and get into my Spearhead with the Lance drone formation and Ultimate cloak ability and just sit on top of them and drop mines on them . I found this 1 little Leo just capturing beacons who was clanless so I dropped in and started laying mines on top of it. To my surprise it was the son of our Company General who sent her entire clan after me to Spank my Tail with success . My chat was turned off and I do not use ts3 but Discord instead so I missed the messages in the DO chat client from my General . Needless to say that doesn't affect our fun at playing the game .
    So if you are going to play this game get 'Smart' because the 'Old School' are watching :)
     
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  18. I follow this Thread.. every time I log in to the Game.. and I often wonder.. as in Real Life.. Its "Follow the Money".. I have no Clue to Why this Game has Taken the Turn it Has..??

    But when I started this Game.. Just after Us Dino-Soaring Space Invaders fell off the Pentium CPU.. we were Playing on a Planets Surface shooting mostly Aliens.. Some How we Got New Client after New Client.. and This Game Became Known as " a Cult Classic "

    I understand that Company Employees Need to Be Paid.. But WHY Kill OFF those Players that Wish to Play for FREE?? yes Servers Cost Money .. So Do Upgrading Support Staff and New Hardware. The Funds for Said Improvements Come from Investors and Paying Customers..
    Many of the TOP Players started out as FREE Players.. Got HOOKed on the Chat and the Complicated Communication System..
    Friendships won thru Sharing HOW to Play the Game.
    " BACK in The Day."

    Many Players left the Game at the Outset of Each New Clients Introduction because " Teaching New Tricks to Old DAWGS " causes TOOTH Decay.. and so to Keep Teeth.. they Retired.

    Sadly Many of the Old DAWGS have Passed Away.. I'm sure many Remember the Massive FLY-Good-Byes within Our BattleMaps to Honor.. The Friendships and the Integrity and Popularity these had Gained from Both Friend and Foes..
    sniff.. sniff.. I still Remember Many of You..
    Those Lost are the Bitter Sweet Events that Will Plague any of Us at some time in Our Real Lives.. and This Kind of Experience make this Game a Real Heartfelt Activity we have Enjoyed Daily.. These are Not Just the Reasons Many of us Still Play. But the Honor to Care on as the Game Morphs into Something Greater.

    It PAINs Many of Us to See Cheaters, Hackers, Bullies, those that Blatantly Break the Agreement we made and those that Strive to Destroy those Memories.
    WIN.

    Many continually Strive to Better their Abilities with Years of Heartfelt Dedication, some Cave into a Cavern of Greed.. " I want a Return on my Investment " and SELL their High Level Account. Some Have let someone use their account only to have it Stolen or RUINED.. and We Hear a Cry.. " I Got HACKED " and some Truly Got Hacked.. Damn Facebook Friends.

    Now we have to Deal with this Multi Company Clan Infectious Atmosphere of Ethical Cheating, Pushing and Twisting of Values that is Common among " Breathers of Our Era " . I Refuse to JOIN one.. Change Companies to Combat them.. or Even Waste my AMMO to give these Types the Satisfaction of it..
    I will just plug along.. NOT PAY in Another Dime.. Return to FREE Player Status.
    UnTill something is DOne to FIX The Only Game I
    Play.
    Boycott Lives .. Don't Eat the Grapes or Drink the Kool-Aid.
     
  19. @ΜΞĠΛ♠ĦÙЯ╫ʐ very nicely stated and hit the nail right on the head. It seems the money people do not realize that eventually the FREE players do want what they can not seem to get and will eventually open the wallet IF they are allowed to play long enough to really like the game. The really enjoyable portion of the game was being able to be just as strong as the TOP Players with the exception of the Skills and Pilot Bio that we all needed to work on. Now it is all about the Gate Bashing UFE that want to HUNT the NEW players out of existence so they can cry there is no one to shoot anymore and thus we have to create a Clan that we can kill each other without losing any Honor and not get called for pushing as we are killing different people every day but being able to communicate when we are going to be on so we can 1v1 and get credit for the kills instead of punishment for being in the same company or having others interfere in our little fun fight.
     
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  20. Odin®

    Odin® User

    @ ΜΞĠΛ♠ĦÙЯ╫ʐ ^ so true , For many years I have sought out ways to help others and myself at the same time . As in the beginning of this games creation was the story-line guide that led to this cult-like group of followers . Some folks have spent tens of thousands of dollars to upgrade their own personal computers just for this game alone .

    I myself may have spent a total of about 200 dollars in 9 yrs here and never once have I ever had a Premium package except for 1 time when DO gave everyone a 2 week free subscription for their Major BOO-BOO ... but still the question remains unanswered What to do about MCC .

    After 18 pages of back and forth discussions and positioning of stance MCC are no better off now than in the beginning . I consider MCC as spies . I treat them as such . They infiltrate the chat client in their own companies doing intel recon. "They" are the "Isolationists" . I say, " so be it then ". This game is basically "Real Life" in a "Virtual World" of zeros and ones. Heck I have MCC spies trying to infiltrate my Discord Channel because I refuse to go to their ts3 and listen to their BS .

    Of the 2 current wars I have going on , The MCC senders of "War" haven't messed with my clan because they are too busy Monopolizing Events . Like you I trod along ... The senior members in my clan have already put their time in and are kicked back helping the noobs get their ranking and providing insights on ship building and hunting skills . As far as any grace period for company swaps fine but 'They" will take the 50% Honor Loss . The neat thing about owning a clan is you can't change it over to another member from a different company. So guess what happens someone creates a "bogus" user account and transfers the leadership. The only thing DO can do is establish MCC as the New Faction with "Limitations"
     
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