PvP in 5-3 palladium zone & Spawncamping

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  1. SolarBurn

    SolarBurn User

    So yeah, i've been doing some palladium recently, and as you would expect, there are idle players letting their pets gather palladium.

    There's always that one evil player that kills everyone.

    As of recently, there has been a guy who killed me, ran to the jumpgate, and repeatedly kept spawnkilling me.

    Basically, if you die in 5-3, and the guy is on the gate, you're forced to go back to X-8, which is simply cruel.

    As for PvP in the palladium zone, i suggest that it should get a demilitarized zone, to prevent mass farming, and griefing, in some cases.

    You guys can leave suggestion for solutions on these two cases.
     
  2. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    To be honest it is quite bad that people always spawn on the EIC port when they click for the nearest port repair option.
    Would be good if the 3 ports on the right hand side of the 5-3 map swapped around randomly at the restart so that it's not always the same company that has the bottom port.
     
  3. When that is going on just log for a while. The killer will get bored and leave. Or go work on something else. Sometimes you can just go sit on the edge of the map for a while until he moves on. Usually I will try to get the pally temp before going in. I, like most, go there to collect pally. If it is hot in there, I will go work on something else. I don't get as upset when getting shot anywhere else...well maybe in ubers but I am not going to take over this thread.
     
  4. here is a response i hear from support and other players all the time: " get a stronger ship or play in another map during the time that player is taking over that map." so basically what i hear is that the "strong" players are just greedy and don't want anyone to take over their spot so you cant have your pally to build your gates....pathetic way to have to play but this is a game and the company that runs it supports players that have not or do not play fair or within the setup of the original game (multi-company clans would be 1 example of that, i can go on and on but it is pointless)....
     
  5. Or ya know from an unbiased position they just want to kill someone or need it from a quest. Doubtful as it may seems ufe don't give the tiniest turd about of you get pally or not. The egotistical ones think they'll beat you anyways, ufe or no, the nice ones will generally not bully you in the first place so.... ^\^
     
  6. It'd be better if you just spawned on your nearest company port. That way when you spawn you're at a dmz.
     
  7. Spawning at the company portal is a good fix, making the palladium a demilitarized zone... not so good...
     
  8. AFAIK palla map is a PVP zone, and always has been, you will get killed and you will do some killing yourself, just log out or go do something for 30 minutes or so and try to return.
     
  9. I
    I don't understand your post ? your collecting pally and you get killed u go to the x8 map and he/she is still on your port in 5-3 map killing you ? If he was killing you why would he respawn and kill you again.
     
  10. SolarBurn

    SolarBurn User

    If he kills you and gets to your jumpgate before you respawn, choosing Jumpgate repair and On the spot will just make him spawncamp you.

    The only option is to repair at your X-8.

    Still, i have examples of what i mean by "Farming" on the 5-3 map.

    REMOVED

    Note how many idle players there are there, letting their P.E.Ts collect the palladium, which just means free kills with no effort.

    This is simply farming kills, and something needs to be done. Imagine having a whole palladium clan idling there. and when they return from AFK, they're all dead, because of a single player. We can't have this. We could really use a DMZ there.
     
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  11. LOL, I am missing something I think. A player should be allowed to sit AFK all day in pally while their pet collects pally? I believe DO removed the mist damage so you would lag out after a time of just sitting. Which works way too well as I lag out when switching to back page to check auction. There are quest for the pirate maps, including 5-3. I think one of the reasons those quest came about was to keep players on their toes and not just camp AFK in pally while the pet does the work. If players want to just sit around and not risk getting killed, you can do a number of things:

    • Turn up the volume on your computer/laptop/tablet so you can hear when you are being shot at.
    • Have somebody pulling guard duty on the AFK players.
    I am sure there are more things that the player can do, but having the pally field a DMZ area is not the way to go in a PVP map.
     
  12. Ok, this post is crazy...... If your respawing after being killed on your safe port (DMZ) the enemy should NOT be able to shoot you. Unless you have respawned and your pet is in active Guard Mode as you reappear on port (Pet is in guard mode during battle- prior to your death) when you respawn and enemy is waiting for you on your port IF he shoots you and your pet is on GUARD MODE your pet then attacks the enemy which leaves you open for another beat down. Unfortunately, your pet sometime respawns before you do. If you have no pet or he wasn't active during your beat down (then I can't say why this happened, it shouldn't). I'm guessing this really has nothing to do with the Pally field, that just happens to be the place you were at during the beat down. ( maybe )

    Gotta love that Pet .....Does everything except Sit !!!
     
  13. I am all for killing afk farmers.... how did this game get so far from its roots that afk farmers are complaining now... this game use to be nothing but pvp, no map was ever safe when there was a thousand players per server always active. I remember you couldnt kill a bk without a enemy or team player taking a shot at you, and the game was better back then.
    stop complaining and wanting everything handed to you, if you dont wanna get killed while afk in a pvp zone, then dont afk there??????
     
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  14. I like how in the video, the song says we are killing ourselves a bunch haha, because its true, they are the idiots who said lets go afk in a pvp zone xD
     
  15. If you get killed in 5-3 palla field and click repair at port there are only 2 ports you can repair at, right side EIC port or left side VRU port. Got it? If you're in the palla field only those two ports will be used if you click that option

    The OP is obviously not one of those companies, so when he clicked repair at port he spawned at one that is not his company port. Got it?

    The player who popped the OP figured the OP may choose repair at port and flew there to kill OP again since that guy is quick witted and knew the OP would not have a dmz as the nearest port did not belong to the OP. Got it?

    So this does have everything to do with the palla field.

    Now, in response to his problem I suggest that players are placed at their nearest company port rather than the nearest port as it's calculated now. Got it? Other posts in here are up to your interpretation.
     
  16. Tom - Sawyer .... Now I got it ! Since I don't Farm as everyone calls it, I had no idea what he was talking about.
     
  17. SolarBurn

    SolarBurn User

    Somebody removed my example videos of what i meant by "Farming kills" on the 5-3 palladium zone.

    Those videos were not questionable or explicit, so why did some moderator remove them?

    Those 2 videos were only some players racking up kills on idle players in the 5-3 palladium zone, which i used as an example of what i meant by farming player kills, and some moderator removed them.

    What the hell, mods? Mod abuse much?

    If a mod / admin is reading this: Would you kindly restore those 2 videos?
     
  18. They will not restore the videos because they are accusations and the proper place for that is support. And with support what will be done is an assessment of the lag out for players that are not moving doing something. This is supposed to be an active game, active as in moving around collecting, or shooting. Waiting around for hours for the pet to fill you up is not active, but passive. Pally seems to be the only place you can sit for more than 3 minutes before lagging out. I lag out at ports while checking auction time.

    The attacking player is obviously using strategy, or exploiting what is known in order to get through kills. That player risk a lot slicing through the mine field in order to be at the port when you pop up. A lot of wear and tear on their ship. Just remember, the pally field will always be there. Do something else and go back later.
     
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  19. i think rule in forum about videos being only in video thread only