Quantum Phase Chip

Discussion in 'General Archive' started by VESPID, Dec 6, 2014.

Dear forum reader,

if you’d like to actively participate on the forum by joining discussions or starting your own threads or topics, please log into the game first. If you do not have a game account, you will need to register for one. We look forward to your next visit! CLICK HERE
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. If my reasons don't make sense to you then something is wrong with you. It seems what I care about does matter since a majority seem to share common opinion, the idea is bad! I never argued that no one wouldn't be able to use this because of price, that shows your obviously not even reading what I type, the price is the one thing that isn't a problem shockingly, the concept and everything else is. For the record, I didn't bite the dust, it would take a better argument then yours to make that happen. What's with your double standard to? If I dislike the idea then my opinion doesn't matter but if I love it then it does? Just stop it and let this idea die.
     
  2. Chill, you can relax and unwatch this thread or something.
    Devs will not put suggestions like this in anyway, they have the same opinion.
     
    (BOSS)Adam[FFK] likes this.
  3. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    I'm keeping it as civil as you guys.
    The reasons you have listed is that too much ammo will be used in combat without a kill as reward, pvp will be ruined, a combination of expensive: drone formations, ships with abilities, tech center abilities, skill tree skills and fully upgraded equipment like guns, drones and generators is all they need.

    And that pesky 2 mill credit item that they can have in a week of play that will probably keep them playin for a while is just a waste?
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2014
  4. VESPID

    VESPID User

    Thank you dread, and well spoken.
    These guys have been too powerful for too long and have no idea what the noob still has to face in this game.
    I can't remember anything they either created in ideas or agreed on recently that actually helped noobs.
    This idea does both.
     
  5. You do know that it will make others more powerful, right?
     
  6. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    Isn't that what it'll take to keep ppl playin the game?
    Making everybody effective instead of a few has gotta help.
     
  7. VESPID

    VESPID User

    Making others powerful enough to defend themselves IS the driving point of this idea.
     
  8. ''Keep them playin for awhile'', so you know that they'd still probably quit yet you want to introduce this knowing full well that it would not only ''help'' noobs but would make strong players even stronger, you don't even realize that since a noob probably has like 5k shields to begin with, they'd still get instant popped, so with this idea you accomplished nothing except the complete destruction of this game. hy do I even bother trying to debate this when your both clinging to blissful ignorance.

    I realize not everyone has the time or money but the things listed aren't that difficult to attain, hard work and dedication and knowing what to do goes a long way.

    Please take your conspiracy theories off the forums, you say ''these guys'' like we're some gang constantly crushing the noobs in-game and on the forum, that kind of moronic delusion has no place here. The account I currently play is my newest account that I built up from a Pnut, with only premium. I've gotten a good start on it, it wasn't very difficult to get things done or build up. You probably can't remember anything else in this section because every idea is one of your demented threads that destroys the game one way or another, that or its to damn OP and you never seem to realize that. I'm not against idea's that help noobs and I don't go and hunt noobs until they quit.

    You just need to realize what your idea's do, without common knowledge of in-game mechanics that will never happen. With this idea, I can't figure out how can you justify it knowing that it will make UFE's un-killable and noobs will have wasted 2 million credits. It might give some players that built up a bit a slightly higher survival chance but it wouldn't be worth it, they'd still go boom and a stronger player would become even stronger.

    This is what makes people leave when they can't hunt. In fact, since competition would be so tough between stronger players that had this chip, it would be more likely that weaker players and noobs would get picked on even more since that's the only chance for someone to get a kill. Again, with this idea, nothing is accomplished but the game is ruined. Try arguing that :).

    Let me give you another, I'm not sure which noob group your targeting with this but I can guarantee it wouldn't help in the slightest. I would assume that the average UFE wouldn't even switch to Moth to pop some random noob, they'd probably 1 shot their shields and send them to base. The whole point of this chip is to shut down the Moth ability, even so the average noob has between 5-200k shields which is only a few shots. The UFE wouldn't even bother changing to Moth and the noob would still go boom, probably having regrets about wasting 2 million credits at that point. In conclusion, the group you target with this gets no help from it but it makes the strong even stronger and turns the game upside down. Don't even reply unless you can argue against even point I've made.

    Yet the idea has the opposite effect.
     
    TheTaser(V) likes this.
  9. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    So what ur tryin to say adam is that because the game is soooo full of UFE and that they are the only hunters to avoid, this idea will never help anyone?

    ALL hunters will insta pop every pilot that uses this idea, and if this idea fails that new players will leave because of this item alone and not the fact that they are being targeted by Fe and Ufe that insta pop them without the benefit of this item.

    If this item works, the mighty hunters that can no longer get kills will leave as the maps fill with new players that will probably stay because of ideas like this one.
    I noticin ur opinion circles around the Ufe as a standard hunter and the idea that ppl leaving is a new concept that doesn't happen now without this item in play.

    The effect is happening without this idea, why not give this item a chance to at least slow the exit of the noobs if not bring in players that might not insta pop with this idea.
     
  10. I think you missed where I said that this item would troll noobs and weaker players because it would waste their credits and they still went boom and stronger players and UFE's would be un-killable and would still slaughter noobs, probably even more so because competition between strong players would be ridiculous as everyone would tank and never die. Try reading more of what I posted next time, if you had, you would've seen where I said that this would be pretty much useless to the target audience and strong players would get even stronger to the point where the game just sucks and dies all because of this lovely idea.

    My opinion doesn't totally circle around UFE's but most that hunt on a regular basis are UFE's with the power to instant pop noobs and average players. This idea would delay that by mere seconds if they were lucky. This item would not stop the flow of players leaving the game, it would just change who's leaving.

    Why have this OP chip in the game when there's already balanced versions of it throughout the game that require some work and dedication that you don't seem to want to put in. Re-read my previous post and read this post thoroughly before responding.
     
  11. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    Dedication.
    What a slippery word.
    Do u really think undeserved dedication is so strong that ppl will run headlong into the Ufe walls till they can afford anything you listed as balanced?

    Your opinion circles ufe reasons to shoot down ideas all the time.
    U should read ur posts and try naming even one that doesn't have these points to fall back on that isn't just u sayin NO.....
    I like this idea because out running tanks isn't always impossible.
     
  12. Let me simply repeat what boss adam has said with my own twist;). First of all I believe neither dreadlok nor vespid realize how useless this is to noobs. When I was a noob, my shield ranged between 30k and 250k. If i have 250k hitpoints, it doesn't matter if someone is shooting me with moth or not, I will die in the same amount of time with or without this cpu. Please understand that. Thus, this is useless for noobs.

    As far as fe-ufe, this is very overpowered. Someone with 300k hp and 900k shield will take forever to die with this chip activated. It would make the moth and crab formations useless which is dumb. DO made formations for a reason. It also makes pilot bio useless as who needs to waste uri on log disks for shield mechanics when i can buy this cpu for 2mil? No wonder everyone thinks you're a little slow in the head.

    I personally never use moth on noobs as pincer will kill faster because they don't have enough shield to make moth worthwhile. This chip doesnt make a difference.
    You obviously are a terrible player because i make 2mil credits in 2 minutes, not 1 week. That is sad. Please play the game before attempting to act like the know it all you are trying to be.
    ?? Once again...sad and shows no knowledge of the game. If you're a noob with 100k shield, a tanked ufe will pop you before you can run with or without this cpu. Who hunts tanked anyway?...that's not a good way to get kills.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2014
    (BOSS)Adam[FFK] likes this.
  13. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    Oh taser, u don't understand.
    Not every hunter can insta pop noobs like me in one volley.
    I know because i been callin them back every time they interrupt my farming.
    making them drop my shields will offer the time i need to offer a good fight instead of an ambush or moth design pop they are used to. So yea ur wrong on that point.

    U think this idea won't keep ppl placing the 5 pp from shield mechanics in other things like luck, tractor beam or logistics? Pffft...slow in the head, u resemble that remark.

    2 mill in 2 min? Well I don't know that hack nor do i wish to.
    As to the type of player i am just ask ur boy tom sawyer.
    He been watchin me chalange them ufe u been cryin about in ur post.
    I am just as fearless in game as i am here to tell ya like it is.

    That tank hunting config was first raised by ur boy adam, take it up with him.
     

  14. ''This is what makes people leave when they can't hunt. In fact, since competition would be so tough between stronger players that had this chip, it would be more likely that weaker players and noobs would get picked on even more since that's the only chance for someone to get a kill. Again, with this idea, nothing is accomplished but the game is ruined. Try arguing that :).''

    ''Let me give you another, I'm not sure which noob group your targeting with this but I can guarantee it wouldn't help in the slightest. I would assume that the average UFE wouldn't even switch to Moth to pop some random noob, they'd probably 1 shot their shields and send them to base. The whole point of this chip is to shut down the Moth ability, even so the average noob has between 5-200k shields which is only a few shots. The UFE wouldn't even bother changing to Moth and the noob would still go boom, probably having regrets about wasting 2 million credits at that point. In conclusion, the group you target with this gets no help from it but it makes the strong even stronger and turns the game upside down. Don't even reply unless you can argue against even point I've made.''

    ''Please take your conspiracy theories off the forums.''

    ''Please take your conspiracy theories off the forums.''

    I can't quite make 2 million credits in 2 minutes but I'm getting there and it isn't a hack so...take the moronic delusions elsewhere. I don't ''watch'' you either and you don't seem to challenge anyone when I'm on. Your telling me like it is without logic or reason which is worthless. I can't attest to whether your fearless or not but you keep me somewhat entertained so thank you. Bio points in logistics if you don't even have shield mechanics, that just makes me face palm. I don't recall bringing anything up along the lines of hunting with tank configs and I'm no ones boy, you really should stop clinging to such pathetic fantasy.

    Again I don't recall you calling anyone out. At least you admitted that you know this chip would only give you a few extra seconds tp ''offer a good fight'' which in reality would just be you wasting extra ammo, if your opponent had this chip to then you'd definitely be wasting your ammo to no avail. I just wrecked you and all of your arguments, I am truly sorry but I think this discussion is over.
     
    TheTaser(V) likes this.
  15. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    So the ppl leavin the game are the hunters that can't find kills?
    I was under the impression that it was the targeted noobs all this time.
    The remaining hunters that have a tuff time killin other pilots will flood the lowers to target noobs, since when is that new?
    The game will be ruined for these reasons.
    Do u suppose that if it was only active on home and battle maps it would keep the Ufe's from raiding other maps with this idea?

    Thank you for ur input.
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2014
  16. VESPID

    VESPID User

    That was nicer than I would have been Dread, stop wasting your time explaining anything and just tell em to stay on topic.....They'll just end up getting themselves banned and probably take you with them.

    This is a good idea and making it only active in home and battle maps is a nice touch as well.
    It's fun to see you employing some of my tactics.
     
  17. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    They'll hypothetically quit:
    If competition is too tuff.
    If they are targeted.
    If the targets leave the game.
    If they are bored.
    If they get slaughtered outside x-1 maps.
    If this idea is implemented.
    If they wasted 2 mill credits.

    So far everything but the last 2 reasons have happened every day this week.
    I still don't to see any new, original or valid reason to hate this idea that u haven't used on every post that u say more than "no" on.

    But hey, thank u for ur input.
     
  18. You guys make me want to go up to you and punch you till you get your senses back.

    Adam there is trying to say that UFEs vs UFEs with the chip will make them OP. From that, the fights would just drag on and no one would die if their configs are similar. So to counter that, they will go after noobs.

    Now for noobs, this chip is PERFECT, and I am serious, PERFECT against other noobs and some NPCs.

    But understand it in a mathematical way. With this chip, you just turn their Shield/Hull from 80/20 to 100/0*.

    *(Just assume that noobs have B02s and no pilot points in shield mech.)

    If you actually went hunting without the use of moth, you should notice that if you shoot a player, you take out their shields, and then whatever is left of their HP. With this chip active, all you did was force the shield to take in more damage, but not go through to HP. Once the shields are gone, HP takes full blast. You didn't change the time that noobs stay alive, their shields go down faster if they don't SAB (and trust me, 99% of the noobs I've met haven't touched their SAB ammo, they just want to do damage).

    So if someone has 256k HP and 300k shield, with or without this chip, they would die within the same time frame, taken that they receive exact damage values.

    The only reason UFEs last longer is because they have good practice and have high knowledge on how to keep their shields up. RSB/SAB trick, SARs, Back Up shields, ISH/SAB, all that good stuff that noobs do not have. This is why Adam is saying the chip would be useless.

    Wasted 2 mil credits + reasons from before.

    Might as well save your fingers here and now man, these two just aren't worth the trouble, they are just attention seeking noobs that just want to rack up their post count. BigPoint is at least smart enough to see experienced users, like Taser and us, and take their advice and inputs. This is one idea that will not be brought through, because of the heavily detailed arguments against the Quantum Chip, and lack of counter-arguments from VESPID and that Dread guy.
    Although, I must say, I hope these guys stick around until I get out of High School, they helped me get a 100 on my Persuasive & Debate essay ;)
     
    SEXY~DYNAMO likes this.
  19. VESPID

    VESPID User

    Hmmmm...an idea that isn't useless except from UFE destroying noobs.
    So once again ALL hunters are UFE and the UFE would be driven to popping noobs till they leave and the Hunters "since they are just UFE" will get bored and leave the game because this idea got implemented.
    Pfft.....where have I seen these ravings before?
    Congrats on that essay and thank you for your input.
     
  20. That pretty much says that you have not read what I wrote.

    I did say that this chip is perfect for noobs to PvP and PvE with, since they can't uphold their shields like the higher elites. Since the higher elites are capable of holding on to their shields, it makes them virtually indestructible. Their only way to counter and get kills? Hunt noobs.
    Easy as pie.
    Pie?
    Pi...
    Pinkie Pie!

    EDIT: If UFEs and tech did not exist, I would support this idea a bit more, since the shields can be easily depleted from an enemy.
     
    SEXY~DYNAMO likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page