Removal of weaker ship kill points?

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  1. So as we all know DO hase been using the "this player is too weak for you" concept where if you kill a ship too many times, you get less and less rewards. I agree with it and I think its great, but there is an issue I have with it. This should only apply when you are the aggressor. Too many times, I have these weaker ships, constantly attacking me regardless of getting popped by my hands. And after about 3 or 4 kills, i get the warning about a weaker ship. I am all for that, but it should be only when you are the aggressor, if you are targeting a weaker ship, then yes i agree, but if you are aleaving the weaker ships alone and they consistently keep coming after you, then you should be allowed to attain the regular points for it. What do you guys think?
     
  2. no because it allows boosting.. even though people boost anyways.
     
  3. I think you got a very good point. If they attacking you first, shouldn't be any reduction in your rewards for killing them.
     
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  4. vsc99073

    vsc99073 User

    Me too.
     
  5. what are you talking about boosting? Do you mean pushing? because that will occur regardless, but if you are not the agressor, why should you be penalized, remember, no matter how strong u are, if enough "weaker" ships shoot at you, you will pop. SO why should a player be penalized if they are stronger and constantly gets attacked by litlle ships? I mean of course there should be a limit to how many times you can strike back, but.....
     
  6. SPSAT99

    SPSAT99 User

    I doubt you'll find enough "weaker" ships to take down a tanking double-boosted goli or Vengy before they get killed :/


    I agree with your idea, btw. I've encountered the same problem myself a few times and would like to get the tiny bit of ep and honor they give :p
     
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  7. Yeh man, it is annoying when they attack you because they can do enough damage that will make it an opportune moment for a stronger ship to fly by and catch ya lol
     
  8. yep i agree
     
  9. Tarron

    Tarron User

    hunt in a group, then it's not much of a problem. you just call in your buddy to pop him once your returns diminish.
     
  10. pecanin

    pecanin User

    You shouldn't be able to target them ..period

    If you need ship kills go fight those that can fight back

    95 % of players in this game have log that is littered with liberator kills and they wonder why servers are dying
     
  11. This it is true.. a Game.. this is.. :mad:

    But If.. this was in Space and some Mining Vessel shot at a Fully Loaded Heavy Fighter.. It would Still go, Poof.. and the Fighter will still have to pay for the Ammo used.. and more than likely have to PAY.. Clean up crews for Salvage Duty..

    in the Background a low hmm..
    Sounds like a Song.. Leroy Brown. by Jim Crochie sings..

    "You DO-Nut Tugg on SuperMan's Cape, You DO-Nut spitt into the Wind, You DO-Nut Tugg on the Mask of the Ole Long Ranger.. and you DO-Nut mess around with Jim"..

    These younger DO-Nuts..need to use youtube for more than watching a Uber FE clear a battle map, and Listen to a few Old school lyrics. They might Learn how Life Works while they Ponder the Wild Blue Yonder.. :confused:
     
  12. I don't think uber fes, or semi uber fes have any business in lowers leave them alone so the game can actually grow. The new players are clearly new to the game, and have no idea what they're doing so just fly away from them. I doubt any actually new player could cause any real damage, it would take them hours to pop me hell they would probably run out of ammo, and credits before the job is done.
     
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  13. Cowboy.. I totally agree with YOU..

    but since the Beginning of Time, the Strong pick on the Weak.. they sit around Campfires and eat Girlscout cookies..and Boast about the easy Victories and Belittle their Victims in Global Chat.. or something in that order..

    but the Bottom line is.. Easy Kills..

    Warriors learn what NOT to do.. and regardless of the Adversary.. a Fighter becomes just that.. a Product of His environment..

    Honor is What a Kung-Fu Master attempts to instill in a Student..

    However it is within.. a Warrior to Leave the Weak and the Children to continue to Thrive.. so another Generation Emerges Better than the Last..

    It just so happens that in this Game.. Lol.. the Strongest are the WORSE group of Bullies..

    They.. Need to Be Cut Down to Size, Strung up like Vermin and Shot with RSBs until their Ships Evaporate.. so they can remember what it feel like to be picked on..

    not all.. just those that Hunt or WAR those Weaker than Themselves .. relentlessly.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2014
  14. jackknife

    jackknife User

    yeah, i agree w/ cowboy a group of liberators taking down a goli heck i think struamers have more fire power.

    And who ever sees more than a few new players anyway let alone a group
    easy kills and players leaving that is one of the reasons the game not growing

    I speak as a noob who has died 437 times most in my first 2 months
    4 months the port vermin i can now kill or sometimes run from.
     
  15. No one is talking about libs, golis and vengies, they can have 10 drones and still be considered weaker than you according to the system. The reason the server dies isnt merely because smaller ships get popped, it dies because people get frustrated, and then quit because they cant get strong enough fast enough to compete. Lets keep it real, DO can do but so much to assist new and weaker players. Remember that the point of this game is to get strong and battle each other while taking on quests, gates, npcs etc. I dont hunt lowers, dont see the need for it, I only come down when i hear that there are some fe's or ufes to hunt. BUt like i mentioned before, shiops with 10 drones can be considered weaker than you by just a small margin of damage points, thats what I mean by we shouldnt be penalized. And secondly, a smaller ship has no business consistantly attacking a bigger ship dont you think?
     
  16. I love to post as the Devil's Advocate.. use Dictionary to fully Grasp the meaning..

    GHOSTofMarz has Displayed the Tude, needed by the Major players on all servers.. New Players need a Reading lesson.. Teach em the inz and outz.. get em up to speed faster than a lf4, Speed Gen 6 pack give a way...

    go Figure it Grew in Mars.. MMO Rocks..

    Teach em that there are Bigger Fish in this Sea called Space.. Avoid em.. Give em the Tech dabble.. that is needed to keep a PC tuned up.. if you don't know.. Clear Cache, Defrag the Hard-Drive and Clean Disk before loading the Game..

    Game Admin needs to become forth-comming with PC minimum requirements and what Works best..

    We need a True "Tech Section" with all the Gobble-Dee-Goop..
     
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  17. you need to forward that reply to dream demon
     
  18. why u r attacked by weaker ships?
    do u worth it ?
     
  19. It would still be pushing.
     
  20. pecanin

    pecanin User

    Point of this game has long ago been lost on both Developers and players

    Players quit every day ,look on chat and you will see few of them saying their byes every day ...why ...New players because they are being bullied ..yes that is the right word ..bullied by uber FE's against which they stand no chance .Then you have Old School FE's who quit because other options to get stronger are closed to them by those same bullies ...they go for Cubi just to be killed by some UFE who thinks all cubis belong to him/her...they go for palla just for some other UFE to raid there 24/7

    And most important then you have certain thing happening in the game where sheer stupidity of game design really shine trough...Wars ...On every single server there ar clans that send wars to all clans they see in the map ..it has been 8 years since this game started and Developers still think that it is O.K to have clan number 1 to be able to send Wars to clans ranked 3000 something with few liberators in them and that way not lose honor

    You tell me how exactly is player to get stronger in game as it is now ?
    As long as dice is loaded in favor of UFE's ...that won't allow others to reach that position ..game will continue dying
     
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