[SC] About new cross server idea

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  1. OK Bigpoint Darkorbit Mods devs anyone whos works on this stuff i think you missed the point
    we do not want a cross server pvp map or what ever we want a full server merge we want it how it was back in the day where we can build big clans and do 30 v 30 pvp not a free for all map we want the big active servers again why does it seem like bigpoint or darkorbit never gets it ? your game is still dieing and it's do to the fact that we don't have people on are servers not only that who wants to pay 5 grand to build a ship on a game stop trying to just go o here we will do this when it's not what we want for me i'm A ufe player i spend alot of money on this game as well does my clan so were giving bigpoint until the end of this year to change how many active players are on the server or were going to find a new game thanks for reading
     
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  2. Mhm I dont think you realize how hard and time consuming it would take for them to merge servers with everyone acc staying as is I think the new cross server pvp and uba is a step towards the right direction.
     
  3. Fidycent

    Fidycent User

    "how hard and time consuming it would take for them to merge servers"
    its just a matter of combining databases, if you active profiles on the same account on different servers thats a bit harder, but i dont think anyone uses the same account for different servers
     
  4. Hi all ..
    (*U.S.A*)WestCoast you describe 'We' as if you speak for the feelings of the majority of players on DarkOrbit when in fact you are a member of a clan on a server and it appears that you dont read or consider all the threads and posts that 'the insignificant other people' from all the other servers, and with differing opinions, take time to compose in order that the game can represent the whole rather than just (*U.S.A*)WestCoast and his friends and fellow portion of the community who feel that server merge is the only way forward...

    I dont have the time atm but I would point out that there have been a couple threads which might interest you from the recent past which may also affect decisions DO make as to whether to go for merge or cross server maps...
    bob_splendy is trying to see both sides here... merge would be a headache on many levels....

    and as for your ultimatum and threat to leave LOL is all I can do...

    have a nice democratic day ppl
     
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  5. Many people who are not selling/buying account like me use one account to play multiple servers. Merge my 2 ufe ships to one server... how will that work? Give me 10 million pure uridium as compensation and I will be happy.
     
  6. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    Issues with merging servers
    • Ranks - you don't care about them? Some people do and those people give a lot of money to BP ...
    • More people fighting over NPC (e.g cubes)
    • More people fighting over bonus boxes, bmps etc
    • More people fighting over palladium
    • More people killing new players. New players get killed more so quit quicker.
    • Less NPC / bonus box / Palladium per person on server makes the game more expensive for that individual.
    • Individuals get annoyed now that they are now pressured into buying uri, unlike before where they could solo a cube if their server wasn't busy.
    • Possibility of accounts going missing during database merges.
    • People now having 2 accounts on 1 servers which was 2 separate servers previously.

    Cross-server avoids every single one of those issues.

    If you think server merging is the best solution then I don't think you've thought about it enough, it would be a very, very short term solution and would cause a lot of issues that the majority of servers don't have right now.

    You talk about how you want to fight 30v30, clan v clan - I don't see why this won't happen. Just gather your clan and jump into the cross-server map at the same time. There's bound to be other clans who are going to do the same.
     
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  7. the only thing i can find with this problem is reason to go into the map

    yeah people want to 1v1 players from other server or fight other clans from other servers but just like TDM and SC know where for people 2 run after they open there mouth to much and they think they are king .. but dose open a new door as event can happen in this map and u have to fight other servers for the rewards

    on another note a few rocks for cbs but not clan cbs but company and we get uri for popping them not cred back how it used to be when jumping into the map using a port the port on the other side is a dem zone like any other map


    i look forward 2 it
     
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  8. Fidycent

    Fidycent User

    All fair points, but what this tackles is only the pvp side of things, this does not help me complete the ridiculous missions im offered at level 13, people that dont spend excess on the game simply have to grind for a year to complete a lvl 13 mission, because their server is dead, and noone is there to help him with a single ubk kill. And cross server 4-5 for example wouldnt fix it - if 300 people went into that map, no ubers would be shot, its all nothing but a bloodbath..

    Also my mind cant comprehend why everyone is so buzzed about ranks - when youre a really good runner and want to head to the olympics - noone says - ooh Usain Bolt has been training all his life, you cant just take the title away from him!
     
  9. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    I feel your pain, building up an account certainly isn't the easiest thing in the world.
    However surely it would be better to rework those quests and introduce ways for players to improve themselves quicker, rather than merging servers and hoping someone takes pity on them and carries them through quests?
     
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  10. One might hope that to carry this cross server idea through there might be something done to protect and encourage the growth in strength of new members to the community on the normal maps, to redress the imbalance we have atm...
    In the long term, with the UFEs having somewhere else to vent their lasers and have their battles with many new ppl then the new players will be allowed to grow and learn to like their new game and stay and maybe even pay and eventually the home server maps will be better populated and worth playing for those that claim boredom as their reason for shooting anything that moves

    I will be interested to know how the Ship Rank issue will be dealt with when the players come back from their cross-server forays... maybe the benefits would be returned to the Company assigned to the clans/individual players on their home server and this instill a little of the Company loyalty that was present back in the days when 30v30 was possible or even likely...
     
  11. Fidycent

    Fidycent User

    That may fix a thing or 2, but still, the reason i play this game not others is the community aspect, i like to hunt with friends, i like to pve with friends, hell, i like to make friends, with a server that has 30 players online during my timezone, that wont happen
     
  12. Hmm, another I(we) are going to leave if you don't change things now thread. Mods must be laughing in their popcorn. Leave if you want. The devs don't spend any serious time in here reading and I seriously doubt the community managers do either. It is left to the Mods to send them what they feel is pertinent. Your threats, I doubt make the cut.

    Merging servers has pro's and con's.

    Pro's ... More players on server, at first. This will actually lead to some things that everyone wants due to the way the game works. More players to hunt and be hunted. More of the bonus boxes, ore including pally, and npc (but not more cubes.) As there are more players in a map, so are there more things to kill or collect, like normal.

    Con's ... Players beloved Ranks changing, alot. Ranks are very different on different servers and merging them would have a dramatic shift for a lot of players. I personally don't see it as an issue but as stated lots of times on and off this thread, its one of the top three coveted items, the other two are LF4 and URI. New players having less of a chance at advancing. Sure, they could still do it if they paid into it, or took a very long road to ascension, but lets face it, if you have more players on map shooting you as you leave the port, what real difference does it make. The cube problem, enough said. The drama, another point that I think don't need explaining.

    And finally the biggest problem, IMO, is what happens when you play those servers that got merged on the same account. I personally see this as the 2nd reason they have not merged servers with Rank being first. I would want all my equipment, credits, uri, ammo, etc... It would probably be a good idea to keep a database of what I have on each serve so if a merge just happens to happen, I know what I, ahem, had before hand.

    But back to the OP, if you, and your clan is spending that much that you feel you can force your will upon the company, I would suggest you send them an email direct as going through forums to get to them is slower than sending a letter in the mail.
     
  13. Read the fine print

    T&A mentions multiple account - it is your own fault. Who is to determine which is the main account :confused:

    Cross-style...We will all see (event)ually o_O

    Prefer a server raid than a PvP map aka UBA or JP style :rolleyes:

    SC? You mean Sector Control...make that Server Control ;)
     
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  14. T&A? And can you lead me to it?
     
  15. as yellowsubmarine says, though I'm not sure it is relevant, the ToS of BIGPOINT does mention multiple accounts and says amongst a lot of other stuff :

    4 REGISTRATION
    blah blah
    1) For each Game, unless otherwise permitted, you may establish only one (1) account. Bigpoint reserves the right to monitor any effort to establish multiple accounts for a Game. In the event Bigpoint discovers that you have opened more than one (1) account in violation of these Terms of Service and the respective additional terms and conditions mentioned under Sec. 4.1, Bigpoint may terminate any and/or all of these accounts.
    blah blah

    8 CODE OF CONDUCT
    blah
    Prohibited activities include — but are not limited to — the following:
    blah blah blah
    • Violation of the prohibition of multi-accounts if stipulated in the respective Game’s rules;
    • Communication, or any other kind of interaction, between accounts of the same user (“pushing”), in particular to create advantages for another account of the same user;
    blah blah

    I also found the following reference in Forum>House Rules>here which was used here in Forum last November in another thread.

    Relevant to this Thread the amalgamation/merge of several servers would only be a problem if, for instance, one person had an account on GB1 and also, using the same login, an account on GB2...

    Please note that the above reference may not be complete but it is all I can find that is relative to this Thread...
     
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  16. Thanks, theOtherKey, for this. As can imagine, I doubt just having more than one account as mentioned is in itself a problem. Its about what some do with said accounts that will get DO involved. But playing multiple servers on the same account is a different story. What happens if 2 or more of the servers you play with the same account gets merged?
     
  17. ramnik

    ramnik User

    I recently quit game but seeing this will make me play again. i gotta ask one thing tho when you jump into this map will it spawn you in 1 place without demil zone? cos if not alot of spawn killing be happening lol
     
  18. SauronL

    SauronL User

    That map should be big and each server should have its spawn if its going to be servers vs servers, if its going to be all vs all it should have random demi zone with insta or something , no idea lol
     
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  19. Toudi

    Toudi User

    My idea how it should be is that all servers stay at it is, but all maps have mini servers lets say up to 10 small servers which can handle up to 200 players or less, everybody can chose on which mini server they want to join to use on the map, the ranking system stays the same at it is. They can make permanent decision on what server automatically they join when they switch map and they can change it in the settings, if they did not chose permanent then every time they jump they will be put in the random one, the only problem will be with PvP players. may be if someone is shooting you the player jumping after you should have been moved automatically to the same mini server as you jump.
     
  20. When I think of this idea of merging servers, it calls to mind the inability of support to insert a record of my USEast1 account in the proper table so my account there can use forums. Their migration missed my account and I have to post using a second ship.

    Sooo.... if they can't insert one record into a table then how are they going to merge multiple servers into one large one. If they do it will be a clusterbomb of chaos as just support tickets by themselves often take endless nagging just to get actions.

    I think there could be better ways to extend the availability of noobs for the UFEs to batter. Maybe a map that interfaces other servers where you move into the other domain and it ports a clone of your ship and record to that server and daily updates your data back to your home account. A lot of data jobs but less chaotic. Just a thought.