[SC] Alpha Gate for Speed

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  1. Hi,

    For the purposes of this thread, I am concerned about speed of completing the A Gate Only.

    I am UFE, for the A gate I run a speed side with 4 LF-'s (all my guns are Level 16) on drones.
    Battle side I run all guns. When In gate I only use Moth with x4, RSB, 3030's and Uber rockets, Sepron on Lasers and Rockets

    I am looking at ways to getting faster times. Currently, I can get between 23-27 minutes. I want to go faster. Below is what I do on each wave. Any suggestions for getting a wave done quicker is appreciated.


    Wave 1... Strueners... Stay in center and Kami, 1 Kami Kills
    Wave 2... Lordakias.....Stay in center and Kami, 1 Kami Kills
    Wave 3... Mordons......Stay in center until first wave appears then go after them, one shot kills
    Wave 4... Saimons......Stay in center and Kami, 1 Kami Kills
    Wave 5... Devolarium..Stay in center until first wave appears, then go after them, battle side 2-3 shot kills
    Wave 6... Kristallins....Stay in center for first wave, Kami, Fly around, grouping next waves Kami when cool down complete, 2-3 kami's Some go to top corner and I kami those
    Wave 7... Sibelons......Stay in center until first wave appears, then go after them, battle side 5-8 shot kills
    Wave 8... Siblonits......Stay in center for first wave, kami, fly around grouping next waves, kami 2 more times. A large number go to upper corner where I kami the survivors. Got to be a quicker way?
    Wave 9... Kristallon.....Stay in center, until first wave appears, go after them. Generally takes about 7-9 minutes to complete this wave. This wave takes the longest.
    Wave 10... Protegit....stay in center and kill NPCs. this wave takes 1 to 2 minutes to complete.

    My best times:
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    Tina-The-Impaler[​IMG]0:22:50
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    Tina-The-Impaler[​IMG]0:23:06

    Any constructive suggestions would be appreciated :p:p:p:p

    Thanks

    T<3
     
  2. Thanks for the info..This is interesting...That time is pretty good
    ...I believe the 13 minutes that it was completed on GB1 is a glitch...You could possibly beat your best score by around 2 mins...Maybe if your kami hits the aliens correctly? And you lock faster...
     
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  3. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    I've done quite a few fast times for most gates, used to have a bit of a competition with a clan mate.


    The only big thing that's standing out to me is your Kristallin and Siblonit waves.

    My advice would be when these waves start, fly up to the top of the map where you think the initial ring of NPC are going to spawn, then start killing them with moth. If your quick with your locks then you will find this will speed up your times by a fair bit.
    You'll find Siblonit tend to die in a single shot but Kristallin will sometimes take 2.

    You can go towards where Protegit / Mordon are going to spawn as well, just means you kill them quicker by a few seconds to active the next wave of them.



    Another point would be, if you are trying to go for the absolute best time possible, you are going to have to try your luck with the NPC spawning.
    For the Devolarium, Sibelon and Kristallon you can take the risk and go to where they could spawn in the top half of the map along that big circle you see NPC like Kristallin make.

    If you are lucky then the first wave of these NPC will spawn near where you are waiting for them, which means you dont have to travel as far to get to them and so you can activate the next wave quicker.
    Problem is of course that you could get unlucky and the first wave could spawn at the other end of the map from where you were waiting.



    Final thing, probably just preference, for alpha I use a full LF-4 battle like yourself then my speed is an assassin - so full LF-4 again. Generally the NPC aren't doing enough damage to make you worry while you are on an assassin, the battle should really only be used if you find 3 or 4 BK close together.
    You could also spend an energy leach if you wanted.


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    These are the times we get using those methods in Alpha, OP being myself and Stephenarron95 being my clan mate who was in the competition with me.

    Good luck trying to cut your time down further, if you want to give other GG a go for fast times the cheap ones like Lambda are quite good, you can get under 10 minutes with them at a push.
     
  4. Thanks, for the suggestions...I will give it a try...as far as doing other gates for time...naw...Ive been obsessed with this for a while lol
    Seems like when I fly to the top for the BKs or Devs they alway spawn on the other side of the map. :mad:

    Thanks again
     
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  5. Waiting to kami slows you down, you can kill all the npcs in the first 2 maps before they are all in range for the kami. Also try a suicide on your speed side, suicide moth is the fastest way to kill the larger npcs IMO. If I'm in a hurry to finish any gate I dont put bo2s on drones, its a gate, there wont be anyone uncloaking on you so no need to run shields on drones.

    Guess I will need to try for a fast time on alpha as I couldnt find myself in the list anywhere under 30 mins.
     
  6. Would using DRILL formation for 25% plus damage be faster than moth???

    I know for Zetas, Moth formation rules, since shields are so high, they are worth by-passing with moth.

    I THINK for alpha, the distribution ratios of HP/Shield make Drill the better choice, I'm sure someone here will have the exact yes or no to this idea though.

    Good luck !
     
  7. it's been a year or more since i did some quick times on alpha, see below for what i can remember :)

    full assassin on speed config, 2nd config decent shield and full speed for when u need to kami kristallin and siblonit

    timing of kami on kristallins and siblonits important ( i think :p). - i have a couple of alpha built so may have a go tomorrow :)

    stay in range on the Kristallon, surprising how many seconds can be wasted repping if you take too much damage.

    prots - fly to them and moth them.

    GB1 leaderboard below, i am -Riv- , all times done with sepped x4, no rsb or tech items etc. rank 1 is a glitch due to clocks going back, rank 2 i'm guessing at rsb, tech items and just doing it better than me.

    lock is important, every missed lock is a second gone i think.



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  8. Targeting Guidance chip that uses xenomit per volley may help. I think.
     
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  9. Moth is quicker...I have found that Drill is only good for SABs when you are in a group.

    T <3
     
  10. After following your suggestions, my time is definately dropping. So, far my best time is:
    9[​IMG]Tina-The-Impaler[​IMG]0:21:45

    I still need to shave a t least 1 min 20 secs off. Takes practice like everything else ;);):rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Thanks

    T <3
     
  11. crazytoon

    crazytoon User

    Please dont forget NPC Pilot points :p
     
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  12. When you get a chance...can you watch the vid i made on A Gate....Any suggestions for going faster?



    you can respond here or on my forum page...

    http://www.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/board/threads/tina-the-impaler.4666/

    Thanks

    T <3
     
  13. OP32

    OP32 Community Team Team Darkorbit


    Hey :)

    As promised to you on discord, managed to get a video done since it's probably easier to show it than just explain over text.

    The main points are making sure you fly and shoot streuners, lordakia, kristallin and sibelonits.
    For the sibelonits they spawn quicker than kristallin do, so always tend to group up in a circle where its tempting to kamikaze them. Personally I avoid doing this as they are weak enough to just run away after 1 kamikaze, which means you need to shoot them anyway and with moth they should die in 1 shot anyway.

    I also like to use wheel inbetween NPC, its pretty minor but I suppose everything counts.

    The first part of the video is just showing the equipment on the ship, although I did forget to show the pilot bio which had alien hunter.



    Managed to surprise myself and get a 18:50 time breaking my previous best - leaves me wondering what times people could get with a Cyborg and Paritydrill.

    Hope this is a good example.
     
  14. You are awesome thanks

    T <3



    I am guessing that you Bio was not really a factor since none of your LF-4s or shields were upgraded?

    Thanks for All your help

    T <3
     
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