[SC] Boxing vs Pallying efficiency

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  1. xuhu99

    xuhu99 User

    Which is more efficient for free players? I have lvl 9 pet and lvl 3 gears for collecting pally and boxes. I also have 4 radar protocols which I rarely use for the occasional enemy locator. I have no upgrades in pilo bio for boxing or any salvage protocols. I'm not buying doubler.
     
  2. mobob

    mobob User

    without doubler,pally is more efective....on paper...
    BUT there is a small problem...if iou not belog in a powerfull clan that has strong conections,or not belong to the company that own palla field, iou might find is dificold to colect palla...iou are to offten killed ...
     
  3. Devy

    Devy User

    No matter if you have doubler or not, I still think box is more efficient. You will get a lot of ammo, uridium and you will build the gates at the same time. On the other hand, palla is good too, but you might be shot a lot there, so you won't be able to collect at all.

    For example, on the Kuiper Gate special boxes, I boxed for couple of hours a day (no doubler) for 3 days, managed to build 2 Zeta and 1 Epsilon gate. Even if I did palla, I wouldn't be able to do it :)
     
  4. mobob

    mobob User

    ::))
    dont forghet a little detail....boxex frome kuiper gate event,even AFTER nerf,still contined 5 time more spins than usual....
    anyway, on long run,i tend to agread with iou...even in teory palla is more profitable,it is more likly not to be able to colectit wery eficiently....
    so ,for an ufe player,pala is the best option...for a non ufe one,boxing provide more chances...all iou need is a fast ship engines,shields and camo....
    ::))
    whend collect,i usualy use only one laser on ship,for fiering infectious amo,and dcr rochests....no ather wepons active....but even those,prefer not to use,for preserving camo....
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2015
  5. I was only fe (8 drones, no lf4s, no drone designs [havocs / hercs / demons) and probs 20ish pp when pirates were released with the 5-X maps and palladium. From the release of palladium and the 5-X maps till about start of 2015 summer I did enough gates to be pretty much ufe. I only need some hercs (6 left) ~ full havocs and enough lf4s now along with helping me get my apis (free) and zeus (for 80k uri) along with helping make uri from gates for a lot of other equipment

    Now for me, Ive never spent money on the game for premium / rebate / boxing doubler or such. I figured collecting palladium was faster and better, you get
    -Galaxy Gate spins faster (and in turn you get uridium, experience, honor, x4 and more [possibly havocs, hercules or lf4s])
    -While spinning for a gate you get ammo (laser ammo:
    x2 , x3, x4, sab / 2021 rockets, xeno, nano hull hp, log disks, repair creds)

    Y
    ou can also make exp/hon/uri/creds for popping npcs while pallying. Now there are 2 dangers in 5-3, npcs and players. Some players will fight you and of course their skill and equipment will vary meaning the danger varies also it depends on how well equiped you are and how capable you are of defending yourself. As for the npcs, they arent much of a threat in smaller numbers but can overwhelm you.

    Npcs being overwhelming also depends on how many people are pallying, if theres a lot of people around (like when it was first introduced) then more ppl are fighting npcs on the edges so those pallying in the center wont have to (of course i mean uncloaked players pallying on the edges) Also more people pallying means the palladium refreshes sooner. 1-5 people collecting may seem good but npcs will seek them, slow them down from collecting (maybe pop them) and you alone have to collect enough of the palladium to make it refresh, it isnt a time interval for it to refresh). I would recoment being at near fe if not fe to pally. Tldr; pally is good if theres a lot of ppl ~ so consider boxing if there isnt.

    Boxing (from me, again having not spent money for doublers, also no boxing bio) you can get
    ~ Does not consider event boxes ~
    -Ammo (x1 [10-75 rds], x2 [5 or 10 rds], x3 [5 rds], sab [5-25 rds]
    -Creds (200, 500, 1000)
    -Uri (20, 30, 50, 75, 100, 150)
    -Jackpot Currency ($0.25, $0.50, $1.00)
    -Galaxy Gate spins (1 or 2 spins)
    * rds = rounds / ammo
    Also this CAN be increased with boxing doubler, and pilot bio ~ doubler of course double content and im not certain how much it can increase with pilot bio (if bio is consider, consider the offset of uri or time needed to complete a collecting bio it can be very costly)

    I have done estimated several times, boxing and pallying (usually a goli or spear) and i always averaged more galaxy gate spins (uridium or raw spins) from pally rather than boxing (i usually tested only an hour then multiplied that). Sometimes I remember boxing for the last few spins for a gate if needed.


    Consider; I tried to represent both pally and boxing evenly but really im biased ~ more for pally because i pretty much went ufe from it alone. It could just be preference on which you do you can box safely or pally and pick up extra uri and such while building a gate
     
  6. Boxing is better with a pet....pali is beter solo...Either way your'e going to want 3 more radar proticals. (more important for boxing tho).

    Having pilot bio set to get more uri and GG's is also smart, and makes boxing even more beneficial than pali ( I don't have pet salvage, just pilot bio)

    For now, till you get more radar, and maybe those bio points, I would pali.

    If you are going to Pali A LOT, its worth the extra amount for two more Hangers, so you can trade the pali without flying through a bunch of pirate maps over and over.

    And either choice, I would get a spearhead (or lightning vengi) to make you AND your pet faster, cheers !
     
  7. mobob

    mobob User

    for pala spearhead is not so great,not so strong to defend iour self frome npc's

    but for boxing,it is the perfect tool....