[SC] Fighting Aegis with Ring...

I've been thinking about starting a thread like this for a while.

RING
· Rocket and Rocket launcher cooldown duration increased by 25%
· Laser damage reduced by 25%
· Speed reduced by 5%
· Shield points increased by 120%

They modified the formation making it +120% shield but decreased the Laser damage reduction.

Everything is fine until an Aegis uses this formation.

So my question to all the players out there (& Devs who think everything's balanced) to give your suggestions on, How to beat an Aegis with ring formation in a 1v1 duel?

Note: I'm not talking about killing noob players. Its about how you're going to fight an Aegis having same stuff as you. So don't tell me your experience of beating noob players with Ring.
And you're using a goli...

Also to note, I'm asking general fighting tactics which may not involve using any ship skill.
And, even if we are able to reduce its shields, not to forget that he can switch to any other formation (like drill) and then kill you fast.

The purpose of this thread for me is to find out a way to fight such players. Hoping that some1 could give a good suggestion

My personal opinion is that its very hard to fight under such circumstances using a goli and yes, I still believe that Ring is over powered when used by an Aegis.
Can we beat Aegis? Maybe yes, under certain circumstances little mistakes done by your opponent can help.
But on a general term, it is extremely difficult and thus unlikely to win.

 

Well what I do is that either I also use ring formation in which case I win since goli has more lasers than aegis, or just use drill formation, because he besides having less lasers he also has 25% reduced damage so you will just destroy him easy.

 

Hmm, using ring might help and I guess its one of the best counter measure against it. But its not possible to use it all the time, as it takes time to regenerate the extra shields, I cant just switch to ring after looking at my enemy aegis with ring.

Using drill, I'm not sure. Though it gives you +20% more dmg, still your battle confi shields will be over much before your opponents (& also you get -25% shield). By the time aegis looses its shield you'll be having half of your HP (or even less) and certainly not possible to win.

 

I could give you a great solution if you were fighting in the UBA , just crab and sab , you should be hitting far more than them while keeping your shield up and taking theirs , If they decide to switch out of ring , which they will because they will realize they aren't doing enough damage to you , just switch to moth drill or pincer , doesn't matter really and just smash them because ring will become useless to them when they switch unless they go back into ring while switching cons. The aegis cant compete with a goliath when it comes to damage so sab works really well against an aegis since they can only rep 15k shields everytime their ability is up and once you're through their shield they shouldnt be hard to kill. this only works however in UBA since if you crab in sab in jpa or in a normal map then they can run away and rep so I wouldnt know what to do then.

 

been reading this twadle a full drone lasered goli has 1.2 mill shields with ring and hits 40k x4 (dbl boostered) so match the ring of an aegis on both cons: if they switch to drill ring beats it everytime: if they switch to moth then drill beats it everytime if they stay ring then use half shields on ring on both configs then cycle down thru pincer and drill: crab and saab lmao when has 20k saab ever beat 40k dmg just stay ring and then pincer and drill

since jpa is cancelled atm i was also only refering to uba fights and agree with the earlier move and rep statement

the basic thing to remember is ring beats everything apart from moth so unless getting mothed stay ring if moth then drill asap

just one last post on the subject your goli ring must be overpowered (10 drones with lasers or 9 with lasers at the least)also it used to be back up shields were the best tech however ring has changed this to leach and battle rep bot tech

 

No no no Moth is useless against an aegis with ring and double cool down boosters because they will just rep their hp while sabbing your shield with ring so you'll be left without shield and their health should barely budge

 

@ouchy I agree with you. Ring does actually beats everything apart from moth (provided you're not in aegis).

About using crab with sab, I think I'll be doing around ~30k dmg with sab and an aegis with ring can do 40 - 60k dmg at least.
So lets assume I'll be getting ~20k dmg extra. So in about 20 secs (400k dmg) and in 25 s (~500k). Now my battle confi shields be over.
At the same time I'd have done 750k dmg to my opponent's shield (around 50% of his total shield).
If I wish to completely sab his shields, I'd loose my both confi shields and a lot of my HP. While he still be having his 2nd confi with full shields and nearly full HP and both rep abilities not used.
So how am I supposed to win?

Correct me if I'm wrong. Though my estimates are much less than the actual values which would be higher and I'll probably die much before.

Edit: After some testing, I think the max sab dmg with crab can be 40k and an aegis can do 45k - 62k dmg (x4 n rsb) with ring (without double boosters).

 

I just use venom, smartbomb, and moth... seems to work pretty good for me. I only found 1 aegis I couldn't beat with ring on so far, using the configs that I ran into him with (two speed configs). Change my configs up and he'd die.

 

regardless of testing goli has 5 extra lasers to a aegis so as long as the goli has max drones with lf4,s it will outgun aegis(or goli) with crab saab i stand by my earlier statement stay ring unless facing moth : if facing moth then drill a.s.a.p also helps to save insta for the last drill hurrah

i cant answer everyone i would be here all day moth loses to drill everytime test it if u dont beleive me added to this venom is countered with emp and with leach tech and battle rep bot u gonna die again stay ring till facing moth or half shields gone from each conf

i never said use moth ? i said stay ring unless facing moth till half shields on both confs then pincer and drill if facing moth then drill a.s.a.p

 

I would suggest using Diminishers ability+also Ring to face Aegis with Ring. Double-boosted UFE player with diminisher skill on can hit around 70-80k x4, while on ring with over 1 mil. shield, and therefore he is able to possibly take down opponent's whole shield, while he will probably keep his whole second config full, or most of it, before the ability will end. Then he can quickly finish the fight with pincer or drill.

But goli without skill design has very low chance of winning, the only meaningful solution is probably using Ring as well + x4, SAB, CBO..

 

Without a goli skill design ability, its very hard to fight an Aegis with ring.

The only meaningful solution here so far is probably using a ring till the aegis looses its shields and then using drill or other formation.
But still it'll be a tough fight for goli to win.

The problem is using ring is often not practical. Like when you're hunting or you suddenly see your enemy in ring (obviously you won't roam around in ring all the time), its not practically possible to switch to ring as you need some time to get the extra shields.

Using any other formation probably won't work on an Aegis with ring (provided he's having same stuff as you and your not using any skill design ability)

Though I wonder there must be ways to counter a formation using any other formation (for all ships) and not just typically using the same formation to counter it.