[SC] Full Elite vs UFE

So some of you may say that there is a distinct power advantage from having lf3s to lf4s, and youre completely right.

It sucks but you can fight a UFE with just lf3s and win.

When I first started Global America 1 I had moved from East 1.

I thought hell I'm gonna have a hard time with building a new ship but that was not the case.

First of all, I recommend upgrading your drones, 19 B02s at the very least. It will cost you an arm and a leg but it is very well worth it.

Having Full Havocs goes a long way but they aren't always necessary.

Drone formations. You must have the basic drone formations to at least put up a fight in a pvp fight.

Heart, Pincer, Diamond, Drill, Ring, Moth.

These are the formations I consider necessary for doing PvP.

If you can counter the UFE with help of another Full elite player then you can easily take him out.
You can even do it on your own. I know because I've done this. I came here as a noob, was full elite and was fighting UFE's and I was being called a hacker but I knew how to handle 1 v 1s, and I was never caught killing npcs in drill.

Drill does provide a 20% damage boost or 25% idk anymore haven't looked but it decreases your shield strength and Hp.

I always hunted in heart or pincer or Diamond.

Skylab goes a long way. I do recommend upgrading the seprom part with Uridium. Go kill bk's or Big lords and upgrade that damn seprom refinery. It is very well worth it and I did it.

Watch some youtube videos on 1 v 1's. I recommend YoungBloods channel since I learned a lot from watching him fight. He explained everything on a detail level.

Don't lose hope on fighting UFE's because I've done it. I've beat them and we aren't unstoppable.

I sometimes get in a ship with full lf3s and non upgraded b02s and go hunt, its funny seeing ufes get mad and call you names.

 

Well. I do agree it is definitely possible to kill them.
Reason being is simple. I will look at the damage.

Lets say I am UFE. But I do not have seprom on. I got just Prom. So I am 30% worse off. Against fully ready sepromed pilot.

Lets say you are FE. And got all the stuff ready Seprom included. So you have 30% more damage.

LF3 vs LF4 the difference is 25%. As LF3 hit 150 max and LF4 hits 200 max. So Seprom not just equalises the difference. But it makes tiny bit better off (on damage).

So all the rest depends on your defence, configs and SKILL.

So I do believe you

Well done.

 

Thank you, for your comment and I also forgot to put that you must have your Pilot bio at least to 24 Pilot points so you can have shield mechanics and shield engineering on.

Guys if you see the Damage, Shield, Hp b02 boosters on sale for $.50 on the extra page which they are on right now. Buy them, they are a must have. they are cheaper than if you buy them with uri. $15 worth and itll last me months. the B01 boosters well those are different I normally just buy 50 hours worht of boosters from those 3 and itll last me 2-4 weeks depending.

Being boosted helps a lot. If youre under age and your parent don't wanna let you borrow the credit card but you have money, Subway cards, go to a subway and buy a subway card, I used to do that.

 

Depends on what u call FE
I remeber that time when i poped a guy with apis and drill in my droneless aegis
However unless it is some noob with a noob killa (aka suicide) config i realy dont know how u can pvp a ufe doing 200K dmg with 1M shields ... The only hope is if the ufe does ~40k and doesnt use instas/smt/pld/etc .

 

By what u just said, i guess u have no idea....

U either deal 200k dmg and have very little shield, or have high shield and deal nowhere near 200k.

 

LOL SO TRUE

 

I have to agree with St.Louis on this one.

This game has been and still is an awesome game. Yes there are some glitches but tell me of any game that has none.

Now back on track,

I have an UFE ship on GA-1 and also have a totally noob ship.

This noob ship is a leonov and I use it cunningly in the lowers maps.( Leonov has home lowers map advantage) Up until recently I had only 3 iris drones some BO-2 shields and LF-3 guns, Now I have 5 iris and a couple more BO-2 shields.

Let me add here this noob ship is 100% free player. Never has there been a dime spent on this account. So yes you can do very well in this game as a free player, just takes longer to build.​

So far I have zero upgrades done to drones, shields or weapons, but I did level up the "SkyLab" <- very important

I also built some of the "Pilot Bio" still a work in progress.
Ship Hull 1 and 2. Shield Engineering,
Evasive Maneuvers 1 and 2 < -- Very important
Shield Mechanics I'm slowly working on now 1/5.

YoungBloods youtube channel IS a very good one to subscribe to very very good learning info there

Many of my ship kills on this noob ship are solo and yes some very thankful assists from other fellow players.

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All Fear the Leonov!! Power to the Leo

Practice practice and yep you got it more practice. Loosing a battle is a lesson not a loss I have many lessons

Its's important to build the "tools" lab, bio, upgrades etc. Having the tools to help you makes all the difference.

Great Post St.Louis!! I will frequent here often.

-FT

Edit: wanted to add that on my UFE ship I've been hammered down by a few regular FE ships, they had the "tools" and lessons learned!

"Arrogance and Attitude are no match for Experience"​

 

I assume u dont have been in the game lately so i will give u the benefict of the doubt. That dmg and shield combo is more than possible using all paytowin gear ring the new update for boosters x4/rsb and maybe infection (althoug it will lower the shield).

"i guess u have no idea" U are right, i have no idea why that ridiculous dmg / shield are in the game.

 

the only way to have shield and that damage is to have BO2s on Generators. But that way. you just run away. If he got speed and shield. Then no way to have that damage. Just a FACT. He does know what he is saying.

 

"But that way. you just run away" run away... with that dmg? and ice rockets ... hahahahhahahahahaha even if it was a cubikon speed (u must not forguet that people have 2 configs it can be one tank and one shaser) anyway they use tart.

"If he got speed and shield. Then no way to have that damage" There is also the suicide configue (all speed all dmg) used to hunt new players.

Also i must point that if your dmg is high enouth your sab will overkill the incoming dmg.

 

Nah you'll never be able to kill an experienced UFE with just FE equipment.

No offense but GA1 is a populated server, so more than likely you're just running into someone who plays for ranked rather than plays to PVP, or better yet a complete noob who just doesn't know the mechanics.

The MMO and former EIC general on my server are the easiest pops. My server used to have competition but now everyone is easy to pop because all the good players quit.

That just goes to show that anyone can get UFE equipment but only very few people can actually play the game.

 

I just tested it out, and i can tell you that the max shield i can get while doing 170k comboes(consistently) 200k comboes(rarely) is something like 430k shield.

Surgeon+Havocs+Drill+double boosters+full equipment lvl 16(shields/drones/lasers)+infected.


If i go with the classic Goliath(surgeon) 35 lf4's on drones/ship and 16 shield gens(on ship) with drill+infected, i can do 200k damage comboes consistently, but i only have 350k shield.

If u have an UFE account, u can test it, and see for urself that u can't really get that high damage without giving up shield.


To sum it up, if u want to do 200k damage comboes, u can't even have 500k shield.


Edit: have not tested max damage with the new boosters update, but im sure that u can't 200k damage with 1 million shield.

I assume u don't have been in game for a while, since infection DOES lower HP/SPEED but it DOES NOT lower SHIELD

 

Actually youre the one with no idea, I already have a UFE ship on GA1. Before I got my UFE ship, I was actually Full Elite, lf3s b02s upgraded and drones with no lf4s. That was never a problem for me.

Heres what I recommend you fly with on a normal day, itll save you a lot and it won't have high damage but these are my everyday configs, rarely am I seen doing full damage. On your battle config, use 4 extra shields on your drones, yes they do make a lot of difference and you lose some damage but gain more shields in return.

Speed side it just depends, sometimes I run 12 shields other days I run 15. Its not a high damage but its funny seeing ufes hit hard and not go trough my shields or hp while im in heart, while I on the other hand can out shield their damage.

On a side not Sar Rockets are very much useful, I always use them when I do pvp or anytime when theres enemies around.

Here is a reason why I use Sar rockets instead of regular hell storm or the yellow or uber rockets.

So with the yellow hellstorms you deal 4k damage I believe, but youre not getting anything in return, on the uber rockets the extra damage only goes torwards aliens, not the players. On the other hand Sar rockets are over powered, since they do 4k damage but you get those 4k shields back.

In other words whatever damage your enemy is hitting you for Hellstorm rockets youre not losing anything and hes losing more than you are because you still have your lasers and rockets, unlike him where hes only dealing laser and rocket damage but no hellstorm damage.

Use PLD-8's, believe it or not they are life savers, and I never use smart bombs in a battle so just slow down mines, and DCR slow down rockets. I evade many deaths because of this, yes they have ice rockets but I'm sure you collected some too. Use them smart.

Its all about strategy, I can seriously fight any ufe in a 1 v1 with lf3s and upgraded b02s and stock lf3s and I will be close to winning. Ask Full throttle, he was my clan mate and I was one hell of a person to kill even with lf3s.

On my battle side I hit 30-40k with just my lasers, I take down ufes going full damage all the time why because of my high shields, their shields don't last that long.

What I've seen among players is that once a UFE shows up everyone just gets up and goes their own way.
No stick together and fight him with x1's or x2s or x3s or whatever you got. I've gotten kicked out from the maps because the Full elite players wouldn't leave each others side.

So practice different strategies, fly with a group if possible and don't just sit in drill waiting to be mothed like a noob.

 

Youre right you can't have high damage with high shields its just not possible. I have 370k shields I believe in drill, but guess what youre never gonna catch me in drill while killing npcs it just isn't worth it, since your shield strength decreases and your hp.

Having max damage isn't always gonna help you win.

 

Ur point to my quote?

Im just saying that u can't do 200k dmg comboes while have 1 million shields, i never said a FE can't pop an UFE.

 

I'm just agreeing with you that's all.

 

You're telling me that im the one that have no idea, that does not look like u're agreeing with me.

---If its just a missunderstanding, just leave it as it is xd no need to spam i guess...xD

 

I think I replied to the wrong comment xD sorry bud

 

IF the situation is right, you can shoot down UFE with FE (I have done that more than once) but I would say that in "ordinary" 1vs1 that people take on 4-4 CBS-stone (lol) it's very difficult to win if the enemy knows a tiny bit about fighting. First of all, if the UFE uses max dmg (or very high dmg) their sab dmg will be the most devastating thing in the fight. If UFE is spamming sab-rsb and uses their ish and emp rightly, and the FE doesn't have any superior tactics like mines (lol), then I don't really know how would one win that. Also, I don't know how it would work in a 1vs1 but UFE with the right timing using ice-rockets and slow mines while hitting with PET kamikaze and mothing with max dmg could be also devastating (and if the FE changes to crab, the UFE could just go for drill and start to sab-rsb).

 

Youre right if the ufe knows something about fighting itll give em a hell of a time, but I'm not saying just stay and fight, go to port make it hard for them to kill you, these are just ideas if youre ever hunting, or see enemies around, you dont necessarily have to stay and fight, hell give em a chase for their money, most just sit there and wait for doom.