[SC] i dont need server merge

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  1. chetaa

    chetaa User

    hi,
    i just thought i will let you know my point here as everyone is complaining there server is dead.
    i dont care, i dont want some server to merge with my server, we got refraction if you want to play with more player then go there.
    Also, everytime its the complaining darkorbit listen to but i am sure there are many players like GE1 who would never want a server merge, its there fault that they went to a small server and got ufe with little effort.
    the last thing i want is some massive server merging with a peckish server like GB1 or something, clearing they would have an advantage as i am sure people cube there all day and have stack of uridium and no competition.
    i just saw in discord some admin said they are thinking of joining a weak server with popular. we the popular server dont want to be associated with them. we worked hard to make our acc ufe and if these noobs are gonna come and dominate with there load of uridum they stack up, then i be quitting. we all can make ufe acc in any server so stop complaining about dead server.
    come Ge1 and work your a$$, there no point getting a ufe acc from a dead server where it is 10x easier to get ufe.

    if you are planning to do a server merge then i am happy with Ga1 and GE1 but not the noob server who are making ufe acc now in those servers because they know server merge is around the corner.

    just dont do it BP.
    if you want then merge some weak server like Gb1-2 and all those noob USA server.
    i dont want to look like a fool who worked soo hard from scratch and someone just randomly come to Ge1 with full acc, that is just out of order!
    thank you i thought i will let you know my point, not everyone want a server merge mostly because they do not deserve it. i used to play on gb1 long time ago and i quit and now worked hard to get a decent acc in Ge1.
     
  2. You just scared about losing you ranks , but dont worry BP would fix also the ranks system like mmorpg or for exemple : Combat Arms ranks system
     
  3. neoonoma

    neoonoma User

    I agree with you,merging servers would really hurt people's ego.And not only that,but ping would be terrible because there would be only 1 server.If they plan on making a server merge at least they should merge only european servers and make 1 european server,and the same goes for america,north and south.
     
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  4. chetaa

    chetaa User

    i aint scared or cared about rank, i am scared that these player are gonna come to ge1 with there full acc and never worked a fraction of what we the ge1 worked to make out acc hard.
    just compare my acc with rank of there and the amound of times i got poped vs they got poped in there acc.
    rank dont matter to me, i am only chief captain here
     
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  5. I kinda agree with some of the things you said, and i saw somewhere that probably they will merge all the "America servers" in one and all europe ones.I dont find the idea of merging GA1 with GE1 good, right now on GA there are 14k players and on Ge1 are curently 33k and that will cause massive lags, there will be even more competition on clans etc..
     
  6. I love the older and more wise development team, because they brought up valid points about server merging and how it would only be a good idea for a few months, then more and more people would quit the server because of the dominant clans, and then the server would be even more dead than before.

    The new development team doesn't seem to abide by that notion, which is pretty self-destructive.

    And to be honest, yes I am worried about losing my rank. Why should the Colonels and above who worked so hard on getting their ranks have it removed by people with over 15M rank points from other servers? That honestly makes no sense because you would lose your main source of income, the people who play for rank. Why should they play the game further for rank just so they can get a little crown above their heads?
     
  7. I don't think global servers should be merged with regional servers. It makes no sense. Global servers are a mixture from all over. Regional servers while mixed to a degree are more of a home server. You can combine home servers, and for the player population, I am sure it is needed, but let keep those global servers separate.
     
  8. batata

    batata User

    It as been discussed in this forum why mergin servers is a terrible idea. Even then the dev team is going to do that just to please some ufe bullys so they can farm some more flaxs with their overpowered ships and mccs. The servers are emply bc of ufes and i thing they should just deal with it as they created the problem not cry about that on discord (why discord? what are this forums for?!).
    If however they decide to do so then they should remove the ajp-01 cpu and mccs so it doesnt crash like a rock plane.
     
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  9. OP32

    OP32 Community Team Team Darkorbit

    Hey,

    Interesting thread, thought I would add a bit.

    Will start off by saying that nothing has been set in stone about which server merge where, however we can rule out right now that no US servers will be merged with EU ones. All EU servers are currently hosted in Germany and all US servers are hosted in California, so the ping for US and EU servers will remain the same.
    One thing I can be confident about is that language groups would be kept together, so we wouldn't go and put Italy 2 in with Germany 3, 4 and 5.

    It's going to be a long post, so get your reading glasses out.


    Small servers merging with big servers

    The aim of server merges would be to put all servers on roughly the same population, so this might indeed happen, will explain the reasons for why this is the aim at the bottom of this section.

    I can understand your concern of getting UFE is harder on GE1 than it is on GB1, that is very true. However there's an issue in that GE1 is in a very small group of servers with anything close to its population. There's currently 60 servers, if we are generous and say 10 of those have "good" population, that leaves 50 servers with a significantly worse experience due to a lack of activity.
    For the overall population to get the same quality experience as those on good population servers get, server merges need to happen.

    It's also certainly not a players fault for starting on a small server, they are automatically placed there, build up their accounts only to find other servers have significantly better population.

    As part of the whole server merging "package" the new player experience is also going to get a serious look at, so players are going to have a smoother time progressing in the game regardless.

    The aim for having all servers on a similar population is that it allows for events and content to be better quality.

    If we take Hitac as an example, on GE1 it dies very quick due to a lot of people shooting it, whereas on small servers it takes a long time to kill it, some players even kill one solo ... yet on both servers it gives the same reward.

    That means the rewards of events such as this are compromised because the way they are played on different servers is so different, if all servers were of a similar size then the quality of these events would increase because everything can be targeted at the same population sizes.



    Why merges and not more cross-server?
    When I was a player I was quite vocal about being against server merges when the topic was brought up in a few threads, probably over a year ago now.

    My main concern was how different the "uridium economy" was on small servers compared the large ones and that if small server merges the players would be unsatisfied with suddenly having no access to solo cubes. The would then cause these players to view the game as suddenly having gotten a lot more expensive for them.
    I shared the exact same concern as mentioned in this thread, that it would be a temporary fix that would lead to more lasting issues.

    I can say with confidence that these issues are going to be tackled.
    When we talk about merging servers we don't just mean sticking some servers together and calling it a day. It involves changes to various parts of the game to assure that things such as reliable uridium sources which were available to the majority of UFE don't suddenly disappear.


    Introducing more cross-server zones was something which was discussed quite a lot. Ultimately though it would be impossible to recreate the core of the game via cross-server zones.
    The other issue is if more and more cross-server zones are created to try and replicate server aspects of high population server for those who don't play them, then the actually population gets split up more and more. Causing the exact opposite effect the zones were designed for.


    As far as clans are concerned, most of the complaints I see regarding clans (more importantly multi-company clans) stem from low population servers where having 30 UFE in a single clan makes a huge impact since there might only be 100 active players at the time. Whereas 30 UFE in a clan on a server with 800 active players have a far smaller impact.
    Clans taking over servers only become a problem when the populations started dropping and active players searching for clans had less and less options as time went by, leading to the situation we have today with multi-company clans.

    Server merges would also be a perfect time to change the way multi-company clans work, either preventing it or making it so that they are unable to do certain things within the game.
    The players who all used to be in the same multi-company clan would also have a great opportunity to unite in the same company with a server merge effectively causing a fresh start to company structures.

    I'm sure there is a lot of discussion to be had on this one topic in particular.



    Ranks and Leaderboards
    Oh boy.

    This could have its own little big essay ... and probably will do once we begin discussing it in great detail later down the line, looking for feedback and various parts with the community.

    If they are to change then they will likely become seasonal and the people with current ranks will get something to show for their achievement prior to the change.
    How the seasons run or what the "legacy reward" would be is completely in the air and undecided. There have been some early ideas and concepts shared with players over discord for early immediate feedback, that's as far as its gone.

    The reason behind the desire to change the rank system is far more simple, its inherently unfair on the majority of this game's population. It's unreasonable to expect them to play for thousands of hours to get a good rank.
    Equally those people who actually did spend thousands of hours getting to where they are now have deserved it, so its not an easy situation.

    This particular topic will be discussed at much greater lengths later on in the future, I'm sure that the ideas we have right now won't be the same ones we have in a couple months time.





    I suppose I should finish by apologizing for the length of this post but I feel this is a very important topic so needs a lot of coverage and explaining.

    Just keep in mind that merging servers actually involves many aspects of improvement in the game, not just putting a bunch of server together.

    Thanks,

    OP32
     
  10. MyBigi

    MyBigi User

    I'm the type of guy who does not care about how easy u had to get ur ufe account, i just want to have more people to fight with/against
    (i play on ga1 a pretty populated server and i won't mind if someone from ga5 who had it much easier than me to get ufe to come here)

    But if they do like OP32 said, then the guy who started this post have no need to worry, since they will be merging some small servers together, and leave the big servers mostly untouched, since they will try to equalize the ammount of players on each servers, that probably means they will merge small servers until they have the +-same ammount of players as the big servers.
     
  11. pecanin

    pecanin User

    Oh Lawd ,this is gonna be fun ,might even come back just to watch GE1 botters who got their ships/equipment/rank/uri reserves complain about having to share all their botting maps with these upstart botters from lets say GE2/GE3...

    I'm gonna enjoy this

    '' Look at them ...they are stealing my mordons in X 3 map,mods please ban them ,there are no cubikons...''

    As far as i'm concerned merger will be great ,finally wars will once again be fought between big clans and noob clans will be left alone for a while
     
  12. I am so glad that when Okapi transformed into OP32, we did not loose him from the forums as now we have a player representative that knows how we feel when we post our grievances. Thanks bud as I can tell you have spoken to the team and it shows in your post. Keep up the good work. It would be good for the clan wars on the smaller servers, and hopefully in the end company chat can get active again.
     
  13. I worked really hard and put in a lot of long hours to get where I am, and I would have to say I would be really upset to have it snatched away, and many other players who actually worked for theirs would be equally disturbed.

    preventing them altogether would be so nice, it's more than annoying that so many gather together in an MCC and ruin everyone's fun.
     
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  14. You can't please everyone. Its rank vs population numbers. Can't find nobody to hunt vs I don't wan to loose my rank. Even if its not a MCC, there are cross company alliances. We could just get rid of clans altogether. Then you can watch people talk about more than "Anybody see anyone from X Clan on? I need to make some kills." :rolleyes:
     
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  15. batata

    batata User

    '' Look at them ...they are stealing my mordons in X 3 map,mods please ban them ,there are no cubikons...''

    With the new (nerf) update in bonus box i see ...they are stealing my streuners....

    "As far as i'm concerned merger will be great ,finally wars will once again be fought between big clans and noob clans will be left alone for a while"

    More like big clans merging into a massive mcc to destroy the game even more.
     
  16. User since:09-02-2009
    Player activity:14,236 hours

    As you can see I'm a regular, this is my second acc. :cool:

    I've managed in this game to do fairly well. I'm not a top 10 player but I sure enjoy the pvp aspect.

    For the first year I built an FE ship and as things in the game advance I did too within reason.
    I spend very little compared to some.​

    I enjoy this game very much, would be quite sad should it ever really shut down.
    So if merging some servers together so that everyone can have as good a time as me then I'm all for it.

    When I think about the ranking as it is now, I understand that the top players have their rank because they also became heavily involved in this great game and for their efforts and loyalty they should have the ranks they hold.​

    Ranking to me, is really kinda buggered since the first onslaught of the npc bots a few years ago. Took my star away, I just couldn't keep up having to work full time, take care of family and life. So I gave up trying to maintain rank and decided to just enjoy myself. Now there is only one number I look at on a daily basis. Ship kills ;)

    I still enjoy helping new comers mostly because when I first started that is how I learned, cruised with some good players and paid attention, kinda :rolleyes:
    If merges are done correctly, with ALL aspects considered I"d be fine with it.

    -FT

    It is not enough that we do our best,
    Sometimes we
    must do what is required
     
  17. So alienating those who worked hard is a good solution? Not everyone with rank bought it, you know?

    See, this is an example of honest thought. I spent so many hours hunting npcs and other players to just barely slide into the top 100 that there should be some way to keep what myself and others worked hard for AND increase the population of our servers. I'm all for server mergers, I need more targets like everyone else, and I'm sure there is a solution somewhere that will make most of us happy. :D
     
  18. StLouis...

    StLouis... User

    I really wouldn't mind the server merge, and the ranking would mostly affect Generals and basic generals, since there can be so few of them, but the more players there is in a company then the more of each rank is there to be thrown around, thats why we have like 7 1 stars per server, 3-5 2 stars and 1 3 and general ranks.

    Back then with all the players we had, there used to be up to 20 1 stars in the game. Nobody complained about that, some people may lose it while others gain it, since the ranks would be more spread out instead of being so little.

    I wouldn't mind a server merge, I come from a dead server USA East 1, when I got back in 2016 then it was almost already dead after 9 months it was dead, I could cube 400k uri each day everyday without anyone bothering me.

    I made the switch to GA1 to a more populated server and I can sometimes make 20-25k uri per day without interruptions. I don't care cubing the rank does worry me but if I lose it then oh well, i'll just keep working torwards it.

    I always find a way of making uri, weather it be killing Lords or Boss lords or bks or BBk's it doesn't matter, its not as fast as I'd like to make uri but what I find out is that players want to make uri quick and easy with cubes. if theres bk's then ill kills bk's or boss lks it doesn't matter really.
     
  19. Alienating? No, back a few years ago, this was brought up as a means to making it easing to hunt so people could make more rank points points daily. I still hope even if or when this is done that more people play but right now we have a lot of players that have gotten into the groove of it being empty and liking it. The challenge will come as the demand increases for npc. Players get frustrated and log, much like they did during the BOT expansion of 2013. It won't be that bad based on the current number of players but still they will see the squeeze. Merges may help players find more friends, and it may be a time for players to reconcile with those that left for other servers in order to get away from the drama that was on their old server. In the end, with the current populations, merges will help DO finacially as they won't have to run as many servers meaning a decrease in the IT dept budget. With all of these sales they are running and the load to China to pay off, you have to realize them talking about this as a "to come soon" is them thinking about clearing their dept.
     
  20. ill make this simple you touch my rank ive worked for over the last 9 yers ive been playing and makeing ufe and top 20 in ranking i will ........ STOP !!!!! spending money.......and find a a differnt game that wants my loyalty and money
    ...merage and it will just be a matter of time before the cheaters run everyone off again and back to square one dead sever
    ...stop the cheets and pep will come back and play and speend the hard earnd money!!!
     
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