[SC] I Think It's Time.

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I Think It's Time??

  1. yeah, it's time

    16.7%
  2. nah, it already makes sense

    83.3%
  1. completer

    completer User

    Put Leonov, Vengeance, Goliath in Daily auction. Please, don't hate, it will give this game a big balance check that people say is off a bit. Looking at all the credit ships that could be used and that were even changed up a bit with more strengths, would not make it seem like dark orbit wasted the time listening to thoughts on changing up those ships and taking the time to do that for people/players in this game. A majority of the time, and you can check and filter auction history to see what I'm talking about, you can get these hourly uridium ships for less than the credit ships. True auctions just aren't really like that and even drops the cred of the game. If I would've found out about auction when I first came to this game, I would've done the same thing, but since I didn't, and I became a good representative of the credit ships with the bigboy, when the time comes that I either ship warp to a uridium ship or just get a uridium ship, I can do that better than just getting that ship and then the game being against me because I haven't developed the skill enough for that ship because of just playing a day or week or month. I've been a free player all this time and that makes the best sense.

    JUST DO THIS: Leonov, Vengeance, Goliath in daily auction and change their ship costs like the Leonov being 10k uridium; Vengeance, 20k uridium; and Goliath, 60k uridium. This will put balance way back. I think it's time.
     
  2. imapoofya

    imapoofya User

    NO. I see your point but the only people this will hurt is noobs. People who are better already have the credits to get them, or have them already. This will just make noobs more frustrated now that they'll be shoved into less durable ships. That's the last thing this game needs right now.
     
  3. completer

    completer User

    No hurt from this. This lets people look deeper at the game in how to play it and lets them know they can survive in credit ships, too. Uridium is easier to gain for free than ever and if the ship costs are dropped for the three uridium ships, they can feel good and have pride and play harder by seeing that they can build their uridium to that. It's better to understand management in this game than any ship you get. There was somebody I chat to in chat that's ship was like a high level and they had 35 pilot points, but they still couldn't figure out why they couldn't get parts on the alpha, beta, and gamma gates after thousands of spins. Management and ship management is the most important and you can go a lot further in the credit ships than people are giving the time to know.
     
  4. There is hurt. I think those of us who've been here a while know well enough what making it hard to keep ships does. It was hard before all this new stuff, with 500 uri per repair. I really don't feel this needs to be brought back at all. Just cuz he didn't know how to spin doesn't mean he's bad at management. That's normal.
     
  5. jackknife

    jackknife User

    A no from me bought a vengi cheap but was way underpowered to use it re-bought a leo until i could outfit the vengi then bought a 2nd hanger for a goli which stayed in drydock until my sep lv. could provide enough sep to use it and am still buying equipment for it.

    As a new player this would hinder their progression and that is the last thing this game needs.
     
  6. Hey OP...you can get every ship you mentioned in hourly auction :) 30,000 total unless you want to have a credit battle :mad::p
     
  7. Bakjam

    Bakjam User

    This doesn't make any sense and only affects the beginners, by putting ships there it will become even harder for beginners to own such a ship. Furthermore: the uridium prices suggested by you are still way to expensive, Most of the people already have these ships and it would give an unfair advantage and uneccassarily time of waiting for new players.
     
  8. completer

    completer User

    This don't just affect beginners. It affects everybody. This game has lots of ways to get to that great FE, but a lot of people just trying to do it one way or just follow somebody that's just going to give it to them or want them to give it to them. The weak part is an auction tripping people up to make it look like they're somewhere with the top ship, but when you go into the game, you haven't picked up the skills and your own development to find your cool way to using that great ship.

    The sense is there. The no sense is the the part where auction in a hour for a ship isn't a auction.

    The uridium prices won't be hard to get, too, because you can build uridium faster than ever in this game. I do it. 10k and 20k isn't too much at all. 60k for the Goliath has still got to be in respect of the pet price and for what the goliath can do, and enough time and you can have it, too.

    Not unnecessary at all, man, and if most people have these ships, it's because you can pay less than a credit ship to get them and basically get them when you feel like it. That's not great playability, because people are even forgetting the vengeance because they just want to go straight to a goliath which is treating the vengeance like it's a credit ship which I guess is why they wanted to give the vengeance a new ship fit through a design which really don't make sense. Unfair advantage is untrue because the unfair advantage is getting the ship again and again and again through auction.



    That's not normal when if your ship is that much advanced, you don't know the smallest or most basic thing to know and are trying so many times, a lot of your time, for alpha, gamma, and beta and practically will get yourself all the way to 50 pilot points and a higher level ship and still don't know how you spin for those gates. Also, I'm not talking about making it hard to keep ships.


    It doesn't hinder because you can do the same accomplishments through credit ships. You might not want to use them, but don't act like you can't use them.
     
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  9. Not true. Noobs die to boss sk's in golis and vengis we don't need then instapopping in nostromos and piranhas.
     
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  10. Bakjam

    Bakjam User

    I don´t get your arguments, to me it seems like you want to slow down beginning players by making it much harder to obtain a somewhat good ship. I also feel like you think that goliath is OP? Or that there are fewer vengeances flying around?

    ''The weak part is an auction tripping people up to make it look like they're somewhere with the top ship, but when you go into the game, you haven't picked up the skills and your own development to find your cool way to using that great ship. ''

    A goliath alone doesn´t make anyone to OP, and there are more than enough vengeances around (at least on GE2). Furthermore, the only way in getting skilled is by practice, which tends to work best when you have the ship. Since it still seems complicated to me, I got a simple question for you:

    Why would you want to move the goliath ship to the daily auction, if already millions of people have it, and you are only affecting the new players, in a bad way? What exactly do you want to achieve?
     
  11. completer

    completer User


    This doesn't hinder progression. It seems like you're just thinking about how it deals with you in your way only and not looking at the general what it does to the game. I'm looking at what it does to the game and every situation. It would make everything more equal in the long run for everybody. If anything I'd change from what i'm saying by letting the Goliath stay hourly, but still putting leonov and veng in daily since goliath is the top wanted ship in the game, still, and people are truly bidding it better in the millions.

    It's how you prepare your ship. Even when you get the better ships, your skill in preparing them and getting the most out of them will be way more difficult because your skipping other ships that you'll learn from better to really progress to those ships.


    That's the problem, right there, by saying a somewhat good ship and that's you saying that about the leonov and vengeance so you've already ignored the other ships. And, Goliath is OP?

    Millions of people?? Even if there was millions of people that had it, too, this isn't a Goliath only game to just be between Goliaths. There's game rank and position. Somebody is going to be at the top, always. Just having a goliath don't make you better than most ships so it can't affect beginning players in a bad way because of that.
     
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  12. jackknife

    jackknife User

    A big no from me because it would just hinder a new player's experience. I need a leo and love on my second account, full stop.

    We need new players to stay and if I had to wait weeks to get a leo, because of the bidding wars the daily would cause it would frustrate the heck out of me.

    Then of course as others have said "why"

    It is the time u put into this game determines whether you are a good player not the ship.
     
  13. completer, I play your server. You're the only one who flies around 5-2 and 5-3 all day in a bigboy. Not anyone elses fault you don't know how to bid on another ship that goes for 100,000-150,000 creds so you buy one that costs 285,000. Ding ding ding, we have a winner here folks
     
  14. completer

    completer User


    Use common sense, man. This is something anybody can see no matter what ship they're in. Me driving a credit ship and being on this game a few years back when there were lots of credit ships being used lets me probably notice the difference better on things and definitely what balance has been lost in the game in general, and I'm more places than just where you think I'm at, man, haha. Also,anybody can bid. It's not knowing how. That's the one thing anybody that finds auction in this game knows how to understand from the start.


    If you think you've got to wait weeks, you're not playing the game right and discovering the game. It's very easy to pile up uridium so it would never be the time you say. It's just your discipline just like with credits with what to do. It would also be way easier to do, too, if ship costs changed.
     
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  15. Crap idea,

    this game is hard enough for new guys who join. Credit ships offer less in regards to equipment you can fit on board, and when your a new guy you wanna pack as many credit shields and lasers on board as you can get. 1 it offers 0.2 of a nanosecond against semi/uber players and 2. it makes farming easier. Horrible idea, not that this needs my disapproval because it would never happen.

    No offence but it sounds like you just got to FE and want the world to be a fairer place.
     
  16. Bakjam

    Bakjam User

    I think all you want is less goliaths. Everyone may choose his her own ship, it seems like you wan't to make it harder to obtain goliath so that there will be less goliaths? I don't get it, besides: goliath as a stand alone is NOTHING and can so easily be taken out. It's the equipment that makes you strong (skills also play only a verry small role). I really can't understand your logic and it is probaly because of me (...) so I can't discuss about this with you anymore. What are you afraid of? A goliath take over? Even if that would happen: deal with it.
     
  17. Blue~Lazer

    Blue~Lazer User


    i dont see how disagreeing with your idea is because it affects a goli pilot or someone with a veng or leo as these pilots already have these ships. i think the leonov is a great little ship for new players/beginners to be able to jump into . double damage, double shields etc giving them a little bit of an extra chance to kill something tht little bit quicker before someone who already has a goli for example comes along and blows them out of the orbit. as you said, there are a lot of pilots with leos, vengs and golis already, but why would we want to go on a hunt to find nothing but little nostromos for instance flying around all over lowers or even in uppers if they spend their saved uri on something other than a ship in shop or dont get lucky in your daily trade for the ships? sorry, but we need maps filling and new players joining and maps coming back to life, not dishearten new players even more than ive seem them get trying to have the long struggle of the build up on their ship already. this just makes newbies easier to kill getting credit ships and not the ultimate fighters they can only dream of flying when they start. wheres the challenge or satisfaction knowing you practically 2 or 3 shot killed a new starter for his 1000th time that day while struggling to make his millions for the goli in the daily auction? a definate no from me. give the new guys a little hope and reason to stay in the game and not quit the same day he starts.
     
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  18. completer

    completer User


    I want more skill and people that can handle their ships, and when people show being embarrassed at that, it shows it's not the ship, but them. They'll say or think it's the ship, but it's just them. No matter the ship, they give the credit ships a bad name like how they embarrass using a uridium ship that they think will put them where they should be when it's your skill and handling that is what does that for any ship and skill and handling is more role than you think through your Pet, your drones, your drone configs, pilot points, etc. Skill is real big, very big. Goliaths are cool.


    I wouldn't say it would never happen because what's never happened is a daily and weekly auction to let this happen. A lot of what we use is on the drones, and the amount of lasers are not so much different from the top cred ships, except for the goliath and the supposed vengeance pusat which is really it's own ship so regards to equipment is similar. The degree that you take your ship is what makes your ship's way. The Pet is also something, too, with a ship and only the pet and drones will make your fire power stronger. No ship will make what lasers or other stuff you have on it stronger unless it has that design change for it, but we're only talking about ship basics here. Another thing, if you look at the game too easy, then it will be hard enough for whoever joins in any ship they get because they're not prepared; a lot of people that get these basically free ships in hourly auctions eventually know that and then realize they still have to prepare their ship which the credit ships are made for and give more advantage and freer play for till you learn how to build up uridium like credits to really make that super strong ship which the top credit ships can still represent on, too, after learning that.


    Proofread, please, next time, man. It's easy to kill people in any ship if they're getting it at it's newest and haven't learned the game enough to protect it. Integrity is what a game's about. Anybody will do what they have to if the balance/integrity is there. A lot of people left Dark Orbit because of integrity and people gaming the game by bots, etc.
     
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  19. This is a horrid idea and the fact that you don't realize this is pretty sad. [removed]
     
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  20. Hello...
    Hello...
    Hello...it is available in HOURLY auctions to get the 3 ships you mentioned :rolleyes:

    Can't believe this thread is still going o_O