[SC] Let's Get Real Here. How I Got Hooked On DarkOrbit

Let's
talk about Balance for one
There will never on this game be two ship created Equal. Oh, so you want proof? Take a look at the police ship or the UFO and all the other ships they don't use anymore that right off the back tells you lol.

How I got hooked on Darkorbit.
Long ago here on this Game A UFE shot me down a number of times, so I got mad and said to myself this will never happen again. Ha ha ha. What is that called: ( Vanity? )
I made a false assumption which lead me to believe that if I become like that ship then he would have to face death, that is the trick of why this game will always win. That was before I realized that some players were using illegal Programs or Admins with heavy hitting ships to have advantages over other players....

This is still the issue I am dealing with up to this date Of course now I am UFE maxed out on everything and always boosted and have sep on my lasers so there is nothing that cheaters can tell me when I catch them hitting over 500k in ships that have less lasers that is just a joke lol... But I can say this much I will Never hit what some ships hit on this game no matter what I do, there is always going to be a ship that has more power than mine, have more health points, shields and so on. No matter What I do to my ship it is always going to be the UnderDog that same little ship that I stated with years ago.

Now that we know the truth why do we still spend money on this game ????

Let Me Whisper something to you: THERE ARE NO TWO SHIPS A LIKE ON THIS GAME SOME ARE GOING TO HAVE WAY MORE POWER THAT IS A FACT: Sad But True!

 

Nobody actually hits 500,000. Judging a players damage off a combo hit is not a fair way of judging how much damage somebody is actually doing.

When you see 500,000 it is multiple instances of damage being displayed at once, probably in order to save memory. This can also happen with ANYTHING: kill 80 sk in a corner of a GG with kamikaze? The client will show the EP in 2 or 3 large parts instead of spamming to log 80 times.

Latency and packet loss also seems to have an effect on how much damage gets rolled into into a single figure. If you have just a 5 second dip in packet loss or latency then in those 5 seconds it is going to be very easy for a player to inflict more than 500,000 damage so the game sometimes rolls all the damage into one. Obviously the numbers are more likely to be even higher the more people that are shooting you.

However the game will not show your own damage in combos. It will show every single instance of damage you create, no matter how small or big. So it will appear you are doing less damage because your lasers only do a max of something like 140,000 on RSB, yet occasionally you will see huge numbers on your screen coming from other people.



Lets lower the time from 5 seconds and take a 3 second time window, in that you can use 3 rockets (~30k), 2 shots of x4 (210k - pet included), 1 shot of RSB (165k - pet included), 1 round of hellstorms (20k) and a smartbomb (50k - likely to be higher due to HP boosters on enemy). That is a potential of 475,000 damage in 3 seconds. It's very easy to see how damage numbers like 500,000 can be seen in combos. I have seen damage like that myself since my internet is fairly unstable.

However what you have to remember and understand is that 500,000 is not "real" it is a combination of hits being put together by the game client. You will never see your own ship on your screen produce that damage, no matter what programs you think exist out there - which is a long discussion for another thread.

 

IF that was the case HP and Shields would drop in an identical fashion

 

What do you mean by this? You get hit 500,000 damage but you do not lose 500,000 worth of Shield or HP? It would not surprise me if there is a tiny amount of time between a shield value dropping and a damage value appearing, but it would not be noticeable during a fight.

 

Okay, let's for example say you and I were in a battle. You have sep booster and are level 16 on lasers and shields we will leave kappa booster out since most don't get that one, but we will ad all your house boosters and maga boosters to your ship and my ship. Now configuration same we both have 1.5 mil in shields using the same shouldn't we hit the same amount in dmage? This is what I'm getting at here there is ships that have less upgrades and less LF4 than a UFE and hitting noob ships hitting harder. same for UFE VS UFS there will never equal up no matter if they use the same configs and formations.

 

Hello,

Admin ships (police & ufo) aren't meant to be on level ground with the normal play ships, that's why they aren't used for normal gameplay so I'm not really sure how you're using those to make your comparisons. Could admin ships hit hard and rush off? Sure, but they're supposed to. They aren't there to log in rank up, pop bks and send you back to base; rather we see someone complaining that cubes aren't respawning we can go check it out quickly and minimize our interruption of everyone elses gameplay in situations like that. That and wizz rocket the lot of you for chasing us ;p

There's weaker and stronger play ships which the mod team uses when playing the game the same way that you do. Just because we joined the team doesn't mean someone pushed a button to beef our ships up. We're pursuing everything (havocs, hercs, LF-4s, etc) just the same as anyone else to get stronger. Unless/til police & UFO ships are for normal every-user gameplay, they do not compare to the whole balance between the ships we all use to actually play the game. I've seen peanuts 1v1 pop the big ships, and a swarm of nostromos hold a map from all the big prized ships. There's a balance to those, it's just a matter of finding it and flying it.

The cheating conversation has been had dozens of times over and there's already a thread for that so let that be had over there please, and the damage debate I'll leave to you all as I'm more known for popping than damage output ;p

Regards,

 

Yes, if 2 accounts had the exact same equipment with exact same configs and both of them sat there shooting x4 at each other they would more or less die in the same amount of shots. Why 'more or less'? Damage ranges from 75% - 100% of the maximum possible on your ship with the equipment it has, so I could do 100,000 and you could do 75,000, which is a big difference but perfectly possible. Then on top of that there is of course miss rates and so on.

This is also entirely from your perspective, you are watching their ship damage you. You do not get to see your ship damage them from their perspective.



However how often are 2 ships using the exact same equipment with the exact same configs, using all the EMP and ISH at the exact same time and changing the configs at the exact same time? Near to 0% of the time that will happen unless it's preplanned. Having equipment isn't the end all of being UFE, people can have all the best equipment and still be awful at fighting, only need to play UBA at the start of a season to see players like that.

When I was building up an account on GE1 there were no shortage of UFE players who just cannot do PvP. They don't have good configs and are very poor at managing the items on they hotkeys. I'm not about to say I'm the single best player in the game, wouldn't even put myself in top 100 nowadays, but there's a hell of a lot of people who are really just useless at PvP.

A ship that is not UFE but has a skilled player behind it can easily beat a UFE ship of a player with little PvP skill. Having skill on this game does not equate to cheating, which is often the default excuse people who lack skill use.

The skill in this game comes from knowing when to change configs / formations and getting the timing right on ammo cycles - many people don't seem to realize that though.

I think you could be underestimating just how much a good player can turn the tides of a fight even if their ship has the disadvantage.

 

Of couse not

All I know there is ships I fight and me boosted and riding hart next an enemy pops up, won't say what clan or who but by the time I lock him and return fire, my shields and HP are already passed half way point, and down with about 3 or 4 shots from enemy ship before I return fire. Or let's say I get them first, using Hart and moth, their HP and shields go down slow my ship has down fast and little damage to their HP and shields when they return fire my hp and shields reducing fast them using same formation lol... I have tried many configs and it's always the same story.. I end up getting killed with them little damage on their ships and shields these guys can have up to 10 ufes shooting them and they don't die, trying to kill them is like trying to dig a tunnel through Mount Everest with a rock hammer What would we call that Beyond UFE?

 

No an admin ship would not gain anything since it has access to everything.
It is just the point that damage on that ship can be changed to kill players with one shot if called for.

lol, You and I have been playing this game for some time now, so it would be kind of hard for anyone to pull our leg.

As for bots and hacks, god codes, Wow! I don't think that is ever going to stop, it is the same old story since game stated, only told by a different person you think you get tired of Reading and Hearing about bots and Hacks, I on the other hand get tired of see it!

Yes I have seen them kill me and a few others players at the same time attacking him when they don't have no shields and HP left on their ships and I have full configs on both sides talk about me being at a disadvantage and the other players too, thinking this guy with no HP and shields is going to die and kills us all


So they say. It is a skill for a pilot that has zero hp on his ship to fight 10 UFEs and kill them ll


Like Solid_Eye says

I've seen peanuts 1v1 pop the big ships, and a swarm of nostromos hold a map from all the big prized ships.

 

I have seen people talk about other players like this for years. In my experience they have always just been a sore looser or just plain bad at the PvP aspect of the game. Normally getting aggressive in chat whenever they die and people call them out on their attitude and lack of knowledge about the game.

If you honestly have a player on your server who does not die when he has 0 shields and 0 HP then please by all means record this player. I'm very surprised I have not heard of them before since a player doing this would become very infamous extremely quickly.

Until you manage the prove there is a player out there flying around doing 10v1s with 0 HP and 0 Shield, your word is useless and to be quite honest - makes you seem like you are just making up excuses for not being as good as another player.

 

I play West and there is more than one... I would record them but it is not my job to this this type of work, then be called a liar even tho they can see it with their own eyes.

 

Again, as I said, until you can prove it then your word is useless. You saying there are people flying around with 0 HP and 0 Shield beating you in fights just sounds like excuses for being bad if you cannot back up what you say.

What if I were to claim you were 'hacking' and I demanded action should be taken because of it? Should your account be permanently banned just because I said so but have not provided anything else besides that?

 

if they want they can jump in a ship and go investigate dem selves

 

Ah right so you are not even going to attempt to back up anything you have argued.

In that case I really don't know what to think besides you are bad at PvP and either do not understand the game very well or you are just a plain sore looser looking to blame somebody for your lack of skill.

 

Okapi32 I could give a brain fart of what you think hope to see u in JP one day. Then we can settle or differences ship to ship. As for My skills I would not say that my skill are superior, but they are exceptional and for my ship is UFE. So if you just want to get stupid and rude we can do that too.

Ps: but by the way it sounds to me you're more of a Forum warrior than a pvp fighter.

 

Ahh, not that I want to get "stupid and rude" with okapi but you realize skill is actually a thing, right? If you watch any number of videos you see people playing with 4 digit numbers of health left but they stay in the fight and even sometimes win because they know exactly how to survive.

Any number of things allow you to survive a serious pounding. Sab alone can hit ~50k, sar ~15k, shield recharge 75k, diamond 1-5k, that's just shields. Not to mention especially on global servers? Account trading is the norm meaning ufe means even less than it does normally. I've seen some pretty shod ufe who've built for the bottom, just begin to imagine how bad someone who just bough it would be? You wonder how 1 ufe beats 10 ufe? Maybe because out of those 10 ufe only 3 know how to shoot and move without losing it. The presence of ufe is scary, but once you actually get in a fight it's amazing how bad so many of them are.

Moral of the story? Skill>equip. And unless you can prove these zombie ufe aren't just a hp/shield bar glitch or just well timed survival moves, I'm just going to guess you'll stick to TA for a while lol

P.s. If you think he's a forum warrior, check out his YouTube channel, or fight him 1v1 ​

 

I have been on this server for long time... Let's not get it twisted first I am the original owner of this ship, but yeah there are accounts for sale all over yeah.

as for me knowing how to use my formations yeah, I have them on hot keys. but what is enemy if hitting 5 to 6 times harder all you can do is run rep and ;hope they don't catch you re attack dont matter what formations you use your shields and hp will still drop hard meaning if you stick around you are going to die.

I plan to

JP and TA is good you don't catch many cheaters in there is where my ship can last is JPs and TA.... But our maps have gone hoodlum Big Thanks to BIG POINT for that Multi clans on the run... More fights in global chat, bans and bans of account bans for saying the wrong things u in chat when players get banned they can write to support and tell them the devil made me do it.

 

Don't listen to Okapi, definitely a one sided know it all type. Can confirm I have ran with people who directly used flash vulnerabilities to spike their ships. Never liked it but it happens. that being said, my ship is complete, 100's of tech items, 45l4, 50pp and upgraded 100%. I have as much skill as the most skilled pilot, weaving in and out with cloak and emp. There most definitely are ships which are strangely overpowered and it cannot be attributed to configuration or blind probabilistic luck. I should be hitting as hard as the hardest, toughest ship in the game because I am one. its funny when you are attacking a goli and that last shred of health wont go down when you are in moth and hitting 125k/90k combos with targeting CPU2 on. of course it MUST be that 10k a second tech item that saved him!!!! (pukes) That being said, I had noticed these exploits have gone way way down since I stopped playing full time, so big props to Bigpoint for doing their job correctly and making it hard to exploit software bugs.

 

Are you a JP winner yet?

 

I've been in the top 16 of JPA six times, highest I got was the semi-finals. Are you about to suggest that since I have not won it, that means there are people on your server running around with 0 shield and 0 HP killing you? Not sure how those two are related. Must ask you the same question though out of interest.

Still yet to see any proof of the things you have been speaking about

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