[SC] Moth vs Drill

So what's better for ABG, Zetta and some others? moth?
And what about x-3 x-4 x-8 x-7 farming? Drill i would guess?
and what about the blacklights? x-BL

 

I'd say drill for most normal maps NPCs, including in ABG or Lambda , and moth for Zeta, except for the first devourer and the classic NPCs of the last wave.
Drill is also the best for BL.

EDIT:
My bad, just tried a lambda in Moth formation to check, and it's better on half of the classic NPCs.
So use Moth on Lordakia, Devolarium, Sibelon, Kristallin, Sibelonit, and Protegit.
Use Drill on Streuner, Mordon, Saimon, Lordakium, Kristallon and StreuneR.


As a general rule, Drill is often better on NPCs with a higher Health/Shield ratio.

Depending how much damage you deal, you won't notice the difference for the smaller ones.
This doesn't take into account abilities or PET Kamikaze. For example if you you Singularity on a Kristallon, the Moth formation will be better. Same when you use Kami in gates.

Moth is still better on Zeta (except first Devourer), and Drill for BL.

 

For ABY you should run for

Attack or config 1 full speed and all lasers on ship and drones (moth)

Config 2 should be for Kami and just to run and rep Config to speed on ship and all shields on drones (ring)

 

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Regards rogue

 

There is no reason to put shields on drones for any gate. I do every wave of every gate except, sks and lil sibs, on gamma with suicide config. If you must use shields put them on your ship in place of speed gens. With goli 8 speed gens with promi will be fast enough to drag and kill any npcs you will find in a GG.

 

Yes, if you just drag and shoot the NPCs you don't need any shield at all in ABY, you can do it all on a suicide config. But then you have a free config, why not use it?
Full speed + shields on drones is better for Kami. You've got enough shield for any wave in Gamma, and are fast enough to recover your shield before the Kami recharges.

It also depends on your gear, your playstyle and other things. BlindManPlaying's configs are good for everyone, even newbies with a weak ship. But of course you might find other configs are better for you.
Personally, to be sure the kami actually hits the NPCs, and taking into account lag, I need to be able to withstand around 4 seconds of continuous shooting. With the sks in Gamma that means almost 1M damage. So having shields on ship only isn't enough.

 

Thanks guys!
#close on weekend please

 

I want to finish gate as fast as possible, even with a noob account if you put all shields on ship that is plenty to kami even gamma sks. I just drag and kill while I wait for kami cooldown. IMO shields on drones just make gate take longer, a rarely even use my shield side in gates anyways, I just want to kill and get it done with.

 

If you are good enough, use this, as this is what I personally use.

Config 1: Full Damage (Suicide Config)
All speed generators on ship, and all guns on drones.

Config 2: Full Speed + Shields (Running)
Mostly depends on what gate you're doing. On all gates, I run all speed generators on ship and all shield generators on drones. Good for kamikaze. For Gamma, I use five speed generatos + 11 shield generators in the ship (10 for non Surgeon/Cyborg ships).

With Moth + Full Damage config, NPCs just melt away, regardless of the gate. Either Moth outright kills NPCs faster than Drill, or the time saved is negligible. Either way, I've decided to only use Moth in all of my gates. Drill's just good for farming outside of gate.

 

This is what I use:

1st Config: 5 Shields on Ship, 10 Speed generators. Full Lasers on Drones.
2nd Config: Full Speed with Full shields on drones.

You use moth on everything in ABY, Kappa & Zeta. Drill on normal maps including blacklight.

Those configs are especially good for normal maps & Blacklight when you have a solace, so not only can you heal the damage taken with your ability, but you can also SAB the blacklight NPCs & get your shields back very fast with 5 shield gens. In addition, if you have the speed module you pretty much make up for the -5 speed generators on your 1st config, so you move pretty fast & can easily circle & drag any alien without getting shot. Also if you have the 10% shield module for solace/sentinel that's also very good because you get a total of 20% extra shield from your ship & the module which is very nice because you're getting free shields without putting on more shield gens & the -5% health from the shield module is nothing because you have a solace ability anyways.