[SC] New idea for cubes

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  1. on my server, GE1 it's very difficult to cube, purely because there's so many people shooting the cube it's basically pointless as you earn barely any uri, it's not like on smaller servers where people see you shooting a join and don't join in or they will get popped, i've came up with the idea how about you make it so you can pay for your own instance for say 1 hour, for 10k uri, on a map that has 4 cubes with the same spawn rates so basically you get your own little x-6 map instance to yourself, anyone like this idea?
     
  2. Neo7

    Neo7 User

    So basically you want to pay 10k uri to go and farm cubes for an hour, to get 50k uri out of it? now why would that make sense? then just make a generator and you put in 1k uri and press spin and you get 5k uri for free.
     
  3. what doesn't make sense? you pay 10k uri or however much to get a map to yourself to shoot cubes, what's hard to understand?
     
  4. on the less active/completely dead servers you could probably cube all day and have all 4 cubes to yourself and have no trouble with enemies, on these servers you can make a lot of uri per day, on GE1 cubing is basically useless, this idea would bring more balance in the aspect that on dead servers you'd make a lot more uri
     
  5. I could see the need on well populated servers and the need to privatize the x-6 map for that purpose, maybe even make it a group gate where the group splits the cost of the map and shares the rewards. The one item I might add would be you would have to deal with the Kristallin and Boss Kristallin just like in the normal x-6 map and might even have some Kristallon to give you a break from the cubes or while waiting for them to spawn if you were able to kill them too fast. The exception to the x-6 map comparison is you do not have your own private Bonus Box maps, there should be NO Booty Chests or Bonus Boxes in the paid map.
     
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  6. good idea, i agree there shouldn't be any bonus boxes or booty chests on the paid map, we don't want a haven for bots to fly about in all day collecting bonus boxes without the risk of being destroyed by players haha and i think the gate to this paid map could just be in one of the corners in the x-6 maps and it would then take you to the middle of the paid map once maybe it opened an interface upon pressing J asking you how long you want the instance to be open for and for you to then press accept or whatever, and it would then take you to your instance where there would be 1 safe zone which would be in the middle of the map where the portal would be, so the portal would be the only demilitarized zone
     
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  7. May I ask if this is a private map as in an extra x-6 map like a LoW gate??
    Otherwise it would have to be server specific and parameters decided as to which servers were too busy to allow for Cube 'farming' or you would get even the less populated servers with UFEs or whatever 'hogging' the map all day and stopping everyone else from gaining from cubes when they reach cubing standard... But either way I feel that it would only encourage a greater differential between the have and have nots to start and later the UFEs would realise that everyone could catch-up by hiring their own map and their advantage lost or diminished...
    I sympathise with this problem but since I became FE I have built my ship in order to avoid having to cube at all except for quests... I also dont use Pally ...
    Other posssible solutions have been suggested such as kill limits (potentially map specific) and this would also alleviate your issue to some degree...
    If this were a 'Cash' option I feel DO might look down favourably from above but in-game payins would have to be prohibitively expensive or MHH would become a thing of the past..:rolleyes:
     
  8. Toudi

    Toudi User

    No and no, if this go live there will be no players to shoot on normal maps, as if someone complain that there is to many players hahaah. Just get your self on LoW maps man :)
     
  9. the upgrade :p of LoW gate is a fine example of how Uri 'farming' is viewed from upstairs...
     
  10. but do you see what i mean, you basically have an advantage and an ability to get ufe much much faster on a dead server where you can just cube all day where on GE1 you can't and Rozmo LoW gates use too much ammo and are too boring for me to want to do more than once every.. well, once, ever
     
  11. Yes I do understand but that is why some servers have become more popular... I agree the 'older' servers (I have a ship on your server which is basic FE and I havent played it since I moved country and my Timezone changed 5 years ago) have an issue but that is why some ppl save their UFE ships for events on those servers and go play on another quieter server to dominate there too... There are a great many threads on the subject of Top-users only 'abusing' events and not playing the rest of the time... My point is that although I understand what you are suggesting and agree that there should be some way to work with your ship when you feel you are denied the options of the bigger players or due to sheer numbers there are always different ways to skin a C*t... sorry... I gave up on cubes and Pally a long time ago (about 4 years) and have tried to use the available options to make my ship better for boxing.. BUT there you have it now the boxing has gone down the Toilet too since this event and Fools day etc...
    EDIT
    I thought this event for Assembly was to help reduce the differential but whatever the intention that is not the case yet:rolleyes: and Fools day was a joke (or was it)
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2016
  12. The JOKE was on us as the "VISUAL Update" is what started the problems seen with the A.S. Launch.

    I can see the need for the "Private/Group" maps since D O has chosen to ignore the requests to extend the protected maps of the lowers. The imbalance of the UFE/FE/NEW player is so much a person has to live in G G's to be able to compete in the game anymore. Buying a MAP is essentially the same thing, except that it would last "X" amount of time instead of "Y" number of waves. There has also been a suggestion to make the G G M with an AUTO-BUY option so the farmers can build gates with Uridium instead of spinning, question I asked to the suggestion was "if purchasing the gate, are you going to get the ammo from the 'spins' or just the gate?" which was never answered.

    Essentially, you are now allowing for players to BUY a gate and play in there, whether UFE or FE, but must allow the "Friends" to join the party also, otherwise there would be too many "private" x-6 maps and that would really be boring, and YES would deplete the MAP populations even further.

    D O is a PvP game (not that I agree with it) and as such we need to learn to live with the attacks of other players, but after they introduced the Upgrade System and the LF-4 to the game they turned the game into a Pay to Win game which is not the original intention of the game, as we VETERANS saw it. YES I know they had to make some changes to the game as it became stagnant for the FULL BIO'd FE who could withstand a 5v1 attack and still defend themselves from another wave of attackers. But adding an item that could only be received from a CHANCE award (Galaxy Gates or Booty Chests) with no real guarantee of collecting one was not the way to make that change. Those who like to buy G G's moved from the game to farming the gates, those who dislike the G G's moved to boxing for BOOTY, and those who did not like the CHANCE just left the game.

    So, YES this is essentially another G G that could be purchased with Uridium. Is it going to have a major effect on the game?, not anymore than any other G G added to the game. Is it going to effect the economy of the game?, again not really as I find I am spending more Uridium on the ammo used to kill the cubes than the reward of killing it (SAB alone takes 1/2 of the Uridium) and even if using x1 ammo you will find killing the cube is going to require more than yourself to kill it before you go pop.

    I made this >suggestion< a couple months ago to help with the game and give us some practice on aliens not normally seen in the maps but are in the G G's and Events. And there was even a suggestion of a >Weekly Gate< where I suggested 3 levels of gates and gave D O the option to add ammo drop rewards or just leave it with the NPC Rewards (which were calculated from the >NPC Kill Rewards FAQ<) but none of them seem to have gone anywhere.

    We do need to protect the NEW player and find a BRIDGE for the gap between FE and UFE as this is too large of a gap to be accomplished as we saw FE was/is, the hardest part, and the goal, used to be getting the Pilot Bio now it is getting the Elusive LF-4 and getting everything to level 16 upgrade.

    Sorry for the long winded response.

    Enjoy your game however you want to play it.
     
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