[SC] Power gap and how hard you hit...

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  1. 77Transam

    77Transam User

    There are people on my server US East 3 that hit in excess of 200K per hit. Some claim to be able to hit in excess of 350k. I have 25 LF4's 23 of which are level 16. I have the surgeon design and I have 9 drones all with the Havoc design and I have Seprom behind my lasers. With all that I only hit 60K on a good shot. Most of the time it ranches from 53 to 57K. That is also with boosters. Can someone please explain to me what I am doing wrong? It just seems impossible to hit that hard yet I have been popped by players hitting over 200K.
     
  2. What you see and what they see for damage is different. What your seeing is when they attack you see all their damage all together and when you attack them your damage is split up it's just not adding all your rockets and laser hits together. That's my understanding.
     
  3. 77Transam

    77Transam User

    I thought of that and took a friend into one of the battle maps and fired on him. He then told me how hard I was hitting.
     
  4. u hit massively more with the dimi ability also
     
  5. correct me but does 9 Havoc have any effect? I also have a similar question although I am slowly finding that I am hurting the big ships more, before I pop:rolleyes: that is !
    350 does seem excessive... even with everything... Maybe someone can point us to a Thread which explains the 'abilities' these players have that put them so far above our reach... that we can start to try to emulate:cool:
     
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  6. Those 200k+ shots you see from players are actually 2 or even 3 shots combined, not a single one as has been already stated. As for people thinking the 350k+ is unbelievable - you can look up some vids on youtube, personally the highest I've seen was a 477k or so - point being I can assure you it is more than possible but it does require a little bit of luck and the very best of the best equipment
     
  7. SauronL

    SauronL User

    I dont know how do people hit 350k+ if they dont use dimi ability,
    i had 35% booster , seprom and ebola
    (reg booster, shared booster, multi booster, base booster, seprom , infection)
    On the drill in the surgeon i kept hitting around 120k x4 which is probably the highest dmg deal in the game if we are not counting other players stacked giving you shared damage booster. with the rsb i was able to do 300-310k combos just lasers , so its quite possible that you can hit up to 350k if your rockets stack up with your lasers, however people dont have those boosters everytime so if anyone say that he hits 350k combos its usually lie , or a bug that causes several shots will stack and it will show as one 240k instead of 80k every 1 sec
     
  8. I was killed in the past, when I had a "smaller" ship. A sadistic hunter shot me with LCB. He deal 25 K damage per second, perhaps he want to see me dying slowly. I will never understand this...If he had use RSB+UCB, he will reach more than 275K damage.
     
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  9. Yeah I get what you mean - I'd find it hard to believe that anyone can hit that high without the dimi ability - the example I gave was, of course, done by a player using just that - without the dimi, that same player probably hit around 280-300k (I don't really remember)
     
  10. 77Transam

    77Transam User

    Ok this is going to be a noob question because I've never paid attention before. But, what does RSB and UCB stand for?

    Also what is the dimi ability, and how does it work in relation to damage?
     
  11. RSB deal 6 times more damage than LCB, UCB deals 4 times more damage. There's a RSB+UCB combo, so you can make (6+4=) 10 times more damage than LCB for a salve.
     
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  12. 77Transam

    77Transam User

    you misunderstand I want to know what R S B stands for? I mean does it stand for Real Super Bombs or what?
     
  13. Oh :oops:...it stands for "Rapid Salvo Battery"
     
  14. 77Transam

    77Transam User

    Thank you, So UCB is 4x laser and RSB is 6x laser. But how do you do a combo? I thought that the RSB only hit 6x against npc's and not other players?
     
  15. RSB deals the same damage (x6 LCB-10) to ALL targets, it doesn't matter whether they're NPCs or other players. And a combo is when you shoot x4 and then rsb immediately after and/or vice-versa - the 300k+ shots people are talking about are the product of such combos (it sometimes shows both hits as one)
     
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  16. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    RSB works on players.

    A combo is referred to when the game saves memory by adding multiple instances of damage together and displaying it as a single number. For example if you shot me with x4, rsb, a rocket and a hellstorm all within a couple of seconds, to save memory the game is likely to add them up and show me a single damage number, which is very likely to be well over 100k, easily going upwards of 200k for UFE.

    However the game will never show you combos of your own damage that you are doing to other people, those will always be separate. It will only ever combine damage numbers of other players who are shooting you.

    So it's easy to see how people get frustrated or confused by it when they see these big damage numbers hitting their ship, but never see their own damage getting remotely that high.



    Another thing about combos ... they are a bit of a "lie" - if you lag out and lets say you aren't receiving information from the server for 5 seconds whilst you are being shot then suddenly the connection issue is resolved, its not uncommon for the game to just give you all the damage that happened in the last 5 seconds as a single number, which could be something like 600k etc.

    When people say "I do 200k, 300k" or whatever they are bragging about, they don't. They do 90k from x4 135k from rsb, 75k from kamikaze, 70k from a smartbomb. Only the diminisher ability lets people do that amount of damage with a single action and its not like people fly around with permanent dimishers 24/7.

    So take the ridiculously high numbers that people brag about with a pinch of salt. They're stretching the truth a bit to sound better.
     
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  17. 77Transam

    77Transam User

    Ok that answers a lot of my questions. Thank you. But what is this Dimisher? Is it on my skill tree, do I buy it in the store are a drone design?
     
  18. it is a Goli ship design
     
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  19. Okapi32

    Okapi32 User

    It's a skill design.

    Skill Design FAQ.

    When you activate the ability it increases laser damage to the enemy shields by 50%.
     
  20. 77Transam

    77Transam User

    So after reading that FAQ I would have to use the Diminisher design instead of the surgeon... correct?
     
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