[SC] Server merge & Leaderboards

Hello
I saw this vid on ytb and i though i should bring it to here. I dont know if u saw it already but anyway here it is. This video is (as the name sujests) about server merges. In it Firefox (a twitch mod) and DAES (DO youtuber) talk about this topic and give theyer opinion about it:


I personaly think server merges will do nothing good for the game. They will only concentrate the existing problems making more players quit, moreover im woried about the problems derived by merging servers...
Anyway enjoy the video

 

I play on ge5 and players from my clan don't really like to shoot npc and play less and less on server, also don't really wanna farm oil for new ships couse its almost dead server with around 50-100 active players. Last spaceball was 20vs20 after 20min stay on 15-20 to push ball and colect cargo its sad. Merge would be good for some players couse they would get what they want what is good fight with a lot of ppl and couse of that they going on other servers like ge1 to fight there, to stop it and enjoy the same way on curent server merge is something what is necessary for some servers. Also rank is boring couse ppl don't compeat for it specially if you are general and they play less and less.

 

Rank is the only thing you can "fight" for since PvP is dead,and 2/3 generals on my server still grind hades at Sundays to keep their rank high.

 

"good fight" Mmm so in a recent survey big. made (that ofcrs was on discord) there was a question: a)Rework refractions b)Merge servers
~80% voted merge servers.
So as u know refractions is FULL pvp mode orientated. However all players there are pvp ready and most of them are ufe.
Now the "good fight" for most ufes (maine discord population) is spawn kill flaxed players on lowers thus they dont like refractions bc there they actualy are fighting with same gear level. What will hapen is that when they merge servers ufe will just ran the remaining players out of the game, forcing bp to merge servers again until there is only one server full of ufes. So either way u will end up fighting same gear but the merging servers aproach as way bigger probability of erasing your acount than fixing refractions or even better FIX THE REASON SERVERS ARE EMPTY.

Now lets talk about spacebals,
i dont know if u knew it but free players cant spawn gates with rebate without losing uridium like payers do. Thus they need a way to close gates wich is SPACEBALS. Before u even thing about sujesting me that (removed) paladium go try to colect it yourself with a fe ship and then come back (this if u didnt already died from boredom). Now i often see ufe raging about no one fighting spacebals wich is funny bc they expect us to wast clocs just to be 2-shoot back by an ufe and make no EE in the end. Ufes get things so easy that they forget this game is also about pve and since they already broke every other event (and spacebals is sometimes sabotajed by ufes too) why do they need to break spacebals too?

Now ranks: before (2010) people fight to have fun since it gave a lot of adrenaline and nobody actualy cared about ranks, they cared about FUN (this is a game isnt it?). Maybe bp should forget about the ranks and focus on making the game fun again (fun does not mean instapop players far weaker than u all day, go play minecraft in creative mode if u whant that).

 

who server merge ?

 

Totally agree. Server merge would eventually do more bad than good at long run. If they remove ranks and take away solo cubis, bp loses even more players (also rank players make the most banking to this game). Lets also remember that many people have chosen their server by the population, not everyone want to have server full of people 24/7. Also what about people who play multiple servers under 1 account? what if they would merge those instances to one which player has ships, what would happen?

It would be a lot better to just continue reworking r-zone and uba and let people keep their ranks and server activity.

 

Yup r-zone as potencial the only thing they needed is just rework the matching system and maybe include clans or grups (but not mccs) and make the map bigger.

 

Sorry but that's BP's fault for allowing bullying to their game.Now i guess some people will say:"if you get killed constantly in this game it is not bullying because it is meant to be played that way".And here i come and say:just because bullying is legalized to this game it doesn't make it not-bullying.So instead of ranting about UFEs dominating spaceball you better talk how BP allows bullying to the game.At least if they don't implement the system of allowing us to turn PvP mode on and off whenever we want then they better implement it only for 4-4 map during spaceball.

 

Spaceball and other events where pilots are more active are the best times to do pvp quest or just get some pvp, reason is most the time like my server you wont see hardly anybody on and if you dont hunt during peak activity you will be getting yourself a pushing ban real quick. Its simply because of the rules that people play the way they do.

Back to 2010 game was pretty active and getting a pushing ban would be nearly impossible unless it was intentionally done between specific ships. But now there isnt that many in maps so to avoid pushing it requires hunters to "Hunt" in every active event.

Which also means UFE defending smaller ships can only do so for so long before they have to leave after popping certain hunters multiple times.

 

PvP missions are bugged so it doesn't matter and if you want PvP so much just go to UBA.

 

They can do like when they merged seafight servers, you keep all ur ships, when u log into them it says int1,in2,int3,etc but they all log into the same gameserver, means even if u log into ur int2 ship, u will play with people of int1,int2,int3,etc.

 

Im sorry but i dont realy get your post. "So instead of ranting about UFEs dominating spaceball you better talk how BP allows bullying to the game" so imagine somebody gives u a machine gun and u start shooting people with it, u saying that the fault is exclusivly from the person who gave u the gun? Im not saying that bp as no fault in the corrent state of the game but denying that ufes play a major rule in breaking the game is something i dont agree.

"Spaceball and other events where pilots are more active are the best times to do pvp quest or just get some pvp, reason is most the time like my server you wont see hardly anybody on and if you dont hunt during peak activity you will be getting yourself a pushing ban real quick. Its simply because of the rules that people play the way they do."

Interesting, may i ask u why dont u go to refrections or uba when u whant to do pvp? Also when u go pvp in spacebals what kind of players do u kill more often?

"reason is most the time like my server you wont see hardly anybody"
Did u ever wonder why are servers that way?

"Which also means UFE defending smaller ships can only do so for so long before they have to leave after popping certain hunters multiple times"
I think trying is still better than doing nothing.

 

UBA to me is a waste of resources the kills there do not add to your ship kills and you are not rewarded equally for the ammo used there.

Hunting in Refractions does not complete pvp missions, and normally the less talented players are hugging safezone instead of fighting.

And weather you go to refractions or not you still have to deal with the same 10 to 30 ships who are eager to get your kill even if you have already popped them 5 times.

And in the case of "still trying" you will get banned if you dont change targets. Would you willingly risk getting your account banned to defend another player? Knowing you will lose 30% ep and honor with a 14 day suspension. 2nd ban is reduction of 60% ep and honor with a 30 day suspension. 3rd ban is deletion of account.

I made that mistake once, it will never happen again.So if my friends need help and ive already popped the target 5 times, its best for me to just log off.

 

Mmm ohh well, this is far worst than i thought.

"UBA to me is a waste of resources the kills there do not add to your ship kills and you are not rewarded equally for the ammo used there"
But normal battles reward u either...

"Hunting in Refractions does not complete pvp missions, and normally the less talented players are hugging safezone instead of fighting.

And weather you go to refractions or not you still have to deal with the same 10 to 30 ships who are eager to get your kill even if you have already popped them 5 times."

Didnt know u coudnt complete pvp missions there. Are u sure that is not related with that other bug of ship identification?

"And in the case of "still trying" you will get banned if you dont change targets. Would you willingly risk getting your account banned to defend another player? Knowing you will lose 30% ep and honor with a 14 day suspension. 2nd ban is reduction of 60% ep and honor with a 30 day suspension. 3rd ban is deletion of account."
Im not saying to go to that point but sure a clan is enouth to protect lowers without that problem i think. Also those hunters seem to not have any problem poping new players more than once.

 

And that broken system in the game is the underlining problem. So as a hunter, defender you log in thinking "okay I popped this guy once this morning, that guy I just popped and those guys ive already taken out 5 times". Now keep in mind this game randomly tossing out locks quite often and ive got a whole thread about these issues. But with that its hard to even assist a group with targets when you know you can still get lock and then you get banned for pushing.

 

I flyed all ranks in game, right now I'm not really interest in hunt couse its boring and have enough war, personaly I don't attack ppl in any x-6, x-7, x-4, x-3 maps if they don't attack me. And there is still bulling system they call it pushing, that is when you over and over kill same player so you can't say its legal. Implement off PVP mode for 4-4 would totaly kill the game, you wanna fly on PVP map and not be attacked, no comment.

Sure I will pop him more than once when he repair on portal and attack me again, just repair on base and don't come in map alone again as long as i'm here.

I agree with you they should make different system about pushing, push counter don't tringer if enemy ship got full hp and shield, he shoot at you and been more than 10 sec in combat between you and his laser, he kill you or hes been killed by other player. They must set a rull to allow hunter hunt active player but almost forbid hit ship which is login just to be killed for rankpoints. Pushing role was created long time ago couse of pushing bot which was create a lot of bigboys which you kill for rankpoints, right now with stronger dmg, booster, pet and double gg reward not wurth it to kill ships for points. But more annoy me when war player left clan, he been shoot at you minute ago and now if you wanna shoot at him you get minus honor. You shouldn't be allowed to left clan if clan have war only way to do that is delete clan I think its fair.

 

So if your clan has permanent war with another clan you have to tell to your entire clan to dissolve it in order for you to leave,and since some people might be totally inactive they won't be back at the clan anytime soon,not a good idea.
I forgot to say: or you are stuck forever at the clan you currently belong.

 

This is interesting as I play several but since I don't play seafight, it still has me wondering if they would just give several of the same ships as they took away multiples before, even stripping players totally of any credit ships they had.

 

If you are reson why this war start I don't think you should be able leave it, I'm oldest member of my clan over 2 years I wouldn't have problem with that. They can send end war promiss to kick that member after you accept end and never accept him again, I think its fair.

 

Well after thinking a bit i changed my mind. Let them merge servers, the game is so bad right now that it just cant get any worst (maybe). If there are little servers maybe they will be more open to create a pre-bio server .