[SC] What is the new uber full Elite standard?

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  1. 77Transam

    77Transam User

    I am level 21 and have a Goli Surgeon design. I have 45 LF4's on my fighting side and they are all level 16. I am hitting about 70 to 75K with lasers alone with 4x laser, Yet I still get popped by guys hitting a lot harder then me. How do I go to the next level and what is the next level?
     
  2. UFE also means you have 45 shield b-02 upgraded to lvl 16, Also with full Havoc and full Hercules designs. After you have these you are UFE then i think after that is learning how to config all ship designs to your liking with this equipment and then learning how to use everything in sequence to your best ability. Maybe think about getting the new Spartan drone design next. Enjoy
     
  3. In addition to the above, I believe many of the UFE are also now saying you must have full Spartan drones.
    Some have also said you need to have a full set of the 'special' LF-4's like MagmaDrill, or ParityDrill, Hyperplasmoid.
     
  4. Sheeesh it's never ending hahaha

    81,073..Ship kills

    No Spartans no fancy hyperparitymagmas :rolleyes:

    Guess I better get to work on that stuff :cool:

    But yes I believe the others have given sound information.

    -FT

    It is not enough that we do our best---Sometimes we
    must do what is required
     
  5. The item no one has mentioned is the Pilot Bio. You need at least the FATS from Cruelty and the Bubble Shield from the Shield Mechanics. Also Drone Formations Wheel, Ring, Moth, Diamond are all thrown around a lot. ALL Drones (10) and equipment must be upgraded to level 16 and Double Boosted (Shop Boosters 1 & 2).

    These are not required for UFE BUT as you say some do not feel you are Equipped until you have everything, but then how many ships is required and how many need to be fully equipped and ready to fly, just warp and go, for them?

    ROFLOL

    Nice numbers, how many days and hours you have accumulated?
     
  6. 3,283 days
    15,178 hours
    on this ship
     
  7. 77Transam

    77Transam User

    811 hours

    I have the full Havoc on one side and full Hercules on the other.

    I also have 42 of 50 Research points used.

    Do you buy the Spartan drones or are they given in a gate?
     
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  8. murdoc01

    murdoc01 User

    u complete the kronus gatefor the blueprint then u can assemble spartan drones if u have all the other stuff u need to make ,such as shiz rock from gates and quest and login

    also dont make any in assembly untill u have enough for all 10 then make or u will loose your bonus from the havoc and hercs
     
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  9. Yup, I don't think anyone is upgrading old LF4s anymore they are trying to get the new LF4 lasers
     
  10. Sapphire

    Sapphire User

    Addition regarding the Spartans, it's good to have another set of Hercules as well, so you can keep the fast config more tanky if you like.
     
  11. memrix

    memrix User

    frustrating to realise how much uridium now is wasted by upgrading the lf4's, i finished my upgrades about a month before the new lf4's came out
     
  12. It seems my last post got deleted so I'll try again. Where do you get the Schism to build the spartan drones all of you are talking about?
     
  13. memrix

    memrix User

    gates
     
  14. Actually HMHY - I fully agree :).
    I was just putting up what some insist on... Makes it a bit difficult for most to catch a moving target. ;)
     
  15. I understand, but then we do have 10 Favorite Hangars (Plus all Crafted Ships) that could be ready to fly should these be Fully Equipped to be classified as UFE? I liked the FE standard better it was set in stone Maximum Number of BEST Equipment (45 LF-3, 45 BO-2, 15 7900 Speed, did not have Surgeon's extra slot) and 50 Pilot Points. The UFE seems to be ever changing.
     
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  16. Never a waist really, your upgraded LF-4's hit the same as the new LF-4's. The new ones have some different attributes yes but, your further ahead having the upgraded LF-4's I think. Eventually you'll equip them to another ship ;)

    -FT

    **Success is never Final & Failure is never Fatal**
     
  17. Is easy to get the Schism... Now the Tetrathrin and Kyhalon are hard to get... Schism you find Hades Gate they are easy to make and everyone does them on Sunday. You Can Make Hades for less than 50k if you are lucky
     
  18. You do not need 45 B02, 20 is more than enough, please tell me you put 20 on your pet? Thats just plain dumb, we kami it either way so shields become useless.

    45 LF4s, 20 b02s, Rocket Launcher lvl 16. Either any of the 3 new lasers and 20 unstable lf4s. lvl 16

    50 PP Evasive Maneuvers, Fats, Electro Optic, Engineering is a must for any pvper, rocket fusion for harder hitting rockets, and what not.

    Spartans, Hercules, Havocs.

    Any of the new ships preferably Cyborg because everyone uses it, and those who say it sucks, clearly don't know how to use it properly.

    It hasn't changed, Pirate event is coming, and I would pick your choice for either of the new lasers to craft, even though i only believe you need 20 of each or of one, and I would consider getting 20 Unstable LF-4's.

    If you say Unstables are useless you clearly haven't done your research.
     
  19. Sapphire

    Sapphire User

    Except you can sab your P.E.T in fights to get shield... far away from dumb.

    36 is enough for PvPer.
     
  20. Listen buddy I'm going to tell you right now that everything everyone has been posting about equipment is not going to help you at all.

    I think your problem is the way you play the game and your configs. You can have all the equipment in the world, 400 LF4s or 400 hyperplasmoids and you will still lose the battles if you don't know how to use your ship and your equipment.

    For example, if you are going in on an enemy with a full damage side in heart then you are not getting popped because people hit harder than you, you are getting popped because you have no actual defense like shields and they are simply gunning your 600k shields down faster than you can gun down their 1.5M tank side in ring.

    In addition to this, these people who are killing you by "hitting harder" than you are most likely not actually doing more damage than you, but instead they are just using insta shields, EMPs, kamis, and switching formations more effeciently than you. Basically they are just outplaying you, not outgunning you.

    This is also excluding mechanics, you must know the right configs to run corresponding to the situation, and the right formations to use at the right time, the right ship design to use as well as timing your kamis and landing them with ICE and DCR rockets(kamikaze will literally win your fights for you if you land them).

    The standard for UFE is the same exact one as it has been for years. I would say the "new" equipment like the spartans and the new LF4s are just an "add-on" so to say because they really have no impact on a PVP fight if you are good at the game, and they honestly just suck compared to the impact standard LF4s and drone formations had when they first came out to be real with you. I don't play Darkorbit that much so I don't even have the spartans, new ship designs or any new LF4s at all and I can still wipe out anyone that does have this new crap by simply outplaying them.

    The ship designs are a little 'meh' and its up to you more than anything. For 1v1 situations I would use a Sentinel because of the insane shield ability with such a low cooldown, or a diminisher because of the ability to wipe out their shields which can really help you in the middle of the fight. If you are going into spaceball against 10 other people then a spectrum would do justice, or if you are in a group fight or even a group gate like Hades or Q-Zone, then a solace would be great because you can heal yourself or your team.

    Basically to put it into another perspective, you're not going to win this game being Superman by flying in there and punching people as hard as you can while trying to take as much damage as you can. To win at this game you need to be like Batman, you need to use the right equipment at the right time, in the right situations and against the right enemies in order to win and you need to be prepared.

    People in here are telling you what equipment to get, what pilot points, spin in a circle 4 times and touch the ground, blah blah blah... I'm telling you right now thats useless advice because:

    A. Given what you told us about your damage, you probably already have the equipment needed to PVP
    B. You can have all the equipment but completely suck at the game because you don't know how to use it and you don't know what to do.
    C. In no way whatsoever is a standard UFE able to beat another UFE by equipment alone, it is impossible because the playing ground is even and the only difference is skill and knowledge, as well as configs and mechanics at that point.

    Look up some Youtube videos you can easily learn off of there, these forums don't have known PVPers lurking here, mostly just farmers and noobs so asking here isn't going to do you justice.
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2018
  21. You got all this from!!! . How do I go to the next level and what is the next level? Really basically build your ship first, second learn how to use all your equipment efficiently. What do we know in the forums though only 59,000 kills here.